Media does influence us. That is a fact. But the degree in which it affects us depends on how we were raised. If our parents actually took their time and taught us what is and isn't wrong, then by the time you're adult you should be able to tell for yourself that fiction is fiction and seeing people murder each other in movies or games is nothing more than that, fiction. If instead you parent didn't give a fuck and let you watch w/e and spend your time on internet without ever teaching you anything, then sure, if you learn from media what is and isn't ok to do then you're fucked and might end up not being able to tell fiction from reality. If you were raised properly and still have problems telling those 2 apart, then you have some mental issues. (so I don't have to repeat myself in every respond)

Rosi4567 posted:

Anyway, can y'all actually promise me you don't feel sexual attraction for actual kids?

Not a single bit.

I don't care about what you watch and stuff, but I still think it's weird for someone to feel excited reading this things. Because for example, I like reading romantic mangas bc I'm really romantic myself, so I love seeing characters falling in love with other people and being able to feel identified and stuff. That's why I have never been able to understand the thing you are all telling me. I mean, shows, movies, books, etc are normally meant for a certain type of public, (ex. those typical romantic dramas are meant for teenagers, the historical ones are meant for the people that are interested in history; I know there are exceptions but you know what I mean) so I would like to know why you like reading this things, that's something I can't understand. I'm sorry if I'm making people angry, but I still can't understand why would you like to read this kind of things. That's what I want to know, an actual reason of why do you enjoy this kind of content. (Please don't kill me I'm being respectful :'v)

You see the thing with fiction and porn is that people read it for different reasons. Some people read it because they want to relate to the story, some want to experience certain feelings, some just want to go out of their comfort zone. The point is doing all those things through fiction is safe, because you can stop anytime and you don't hurt anyone. That is the important part. You're just indulging into certain fantasies. What you masturbate to not necessary transfer to what excite you irl. And for a lot of people it doesn't really matter what porn is about. As long as it turned you on it did its job and w/e you would want it during normal sex or not, is really irrelevant at the moment.

Rosi4567 posted:

Listen, I'm really, really sorry about what happened to you, nobody deserves it. The guy that did that to you is sick and deserves to be in prison. But, even though it's harsh, a pedophile can't feel anything romantic towards a child. That's why this whole thing is wrong. It's not how reality actually is, child abuse can't be romantic in any way. I'm just so, so sorry I don't know what else to tell you, since I don't know how it must feel to be abused. But that's the reality, a sane adult can't really fall in love with a child.

You missed her point entirely. That is exactly why she is using fiction. Because in fiction she can create any scenario she wants. Instead of what happened, she can replace it with happy memories. It was someone who loved her. It was someone who cared about her. The entire situation was pleasant. This way it becomes pleasant memories instead of nightmare. And entire reason it can be done is because it is fiction. It not being reality and rather nice fantasies is entire point. Also you are right, pedophile doesn't feel love towards child, but desire. But Master here is not pedophile. Pedophile and loli is used so loosely by people nowadays, that it seems like most forgot what it actually means. Loli is not any child below 18 years old. It is specifically a very young, prepubescent child up to 12 years max. While Mel fails under that category nobody said Master is only attracted to young, prepubescent children. You people jump to conclusions so fast that as long as someone has any feelings toward any child it is pedophilia. Did you ever considered for a moment, Master might be attracted to Mel specifically? That the reason she wants to have sex with her is because she loves her? Not because she is just a child and any child will work, but because it is Mel? And in that context, Vivan putting herself in Mel's shoes works perfectly, because it is sex between 2 loving people who both consent to it and want it.

Yes, I think child can be mature enough to consent, there is a lot things I won't be going into right now, but as long it is healthy relationship without any abuse I don't mind, especially when it is some fictional story. Honestly guys. Do you all read Itou's works constantly thinking how terrible and awful Master (and other adult characters) is because she is totally pedo and want to rape children. Sure they have cute pure relationship now and she clearly care about Mel, but that is all the facade. In her mind she constantly wants to fuck children and Mel is just only current one she is indulging with. Why do you think Master's personality would get a 180 degree molester turn over in hentai version of them?

Dayominator posted:

It's not about distinguishing fiction from reality. It's that people don't understand there are many others out there who see this as justification of their feelings towards those who are underage DESPITE it being fiction.

That is the same thing. People who read/see something book/movies/games and goes "they say it is ok to do there, so I'll do it!" are people who can't tell fiction from reality. In fact I'm curious how you so surely know they knew it was fiction and yet still acted on those desires despite it, since it wasn't really confirmed anywhere. If it was, there would be tones of articles about it. Also next thing you are forgetting, w/e pedophile saw it in the hentai or not, we are still human beings. We are supposed to be able to control our desires. If someone is not able to hold themselves from raping a child, then that is not fiction's fault. Also of course, those people are very tiny majority. Do you really want to dictated everyone else based on such small group of people? That is basically giving pedophiles power to rule everyone else. If someone is incapable of stopping themselves, they will get triggered by something sooner or later. Removing lolis doesn't guarantee they won't simply see something else, so in the end it is futile.

Dayominator posted:

Also, being gay is not something you choose, therefore cannot be influenced, I don't even know why that was brought up that's downright offensive for you to even suggest.

And yet so many people in politics and media do everything in their power to censor any signs of homosexuality in children cartoons, because it might corrupt them and make them gay by exposing them to mere idea.

Also being a pedophile is not something you choose. It is a freaking sexual attraction to children. I wonder when that part will finally get across.

auikimaya posted:

By its very definition, child porn is abuse, since no child is in age to give consent. All child porn is wrong because it portrays children having sex before they can give consent. Again, sorry to call your fetish or whatever by its name, but having a little kid portrayed having sex IS child porn, regardless of how you feel about it.

I don't have time right now to go into definitions, but real children are sure as hell abused during making those real child pornography. Meanwhile, those drawings at best hurts paper it is drawn on or computer screen (or your feelings). The entire point why child pornography is illegal and wrong is because it requires actual children to produce. So if you find some movies or photos, it is safe to assume some children were mistreated in the process of making them. So sorry, but treating those 2 things as if they are the same is simply ridiculous. Sure, if you're not into it, whatever it is hardcore hentai or lovely dovely sex between 2 established characters who clearly love and care about each other, it is your right. But that also means that others also have right to like it. As long as nobody is harming children in order to make those drawings, there is nothing wrong with it. That is the whole point of art and expression. If you start censoring things you're uncomfortable with, just because you don't like it, that is when progression and innovation dies, because nobody tries to make anything new and different anymore and only comfort to what was already done and proven.

Look, I'm not gonna go all preaching about this with you about why child porn is wrong or whatever. Just understand that lots of us consider this kind of content to be wrong and will get quite vocal about it.

So you are not going to preach, but we shouldn't be surprised when you go and preach... Sure, right. You're being seriously unfair here. As I said above, it is fine to not like it or even dislike it and nobody will tell you how not enjoying it is wrong. And yet you tell me you should be allowed to go into thread of work you don't like, and you knew you won't like it even before reading it thanks to tags (and even title in this case), and not only tell everyone how this work is sick, wrong and shouldn't exist, but you also tell people who enjoy it how they are sick, wrong and shouldn't exist. It is one thing to come and comment about work you didn't find enjoyable or had some problems with. It is completely different thing altogether when you comment about work just to complain about things that make you personally uncomfortable and telling others how enjoying it is wrong, when you fully knew you won't like it before reading it and just want to make a statement. It brings nothing to discussion. People who like it, will like it, people who dislike it, will dislike it. You're not changing anyone's mind, especially by trying to force them to feel guilty. All you do is venting your feelings and digressing from any actual conversation about work (granted in this case, there is not much to discuss). Can you imagine how it would feel if people who like this work decided to go into every single work that doesn't have lolicon tag and complained there how it is wrong and how it should be loli and how having sex between 2 adults is sick? Or if anyone with any fetish/preference started to complain in every single thread, that given work doesn't have what they like? That is exactly what you are doing. You're saying you have rights to complain you disliked the work you knew you will dislike and everyone else have to agree with it or at least hear it. That is simply not acceptable and in no way productive to actual conversation at all.

However, I do recognize that the whole "GTA let's me kill people but I'm no killer" argument has some solid evidence in its favor, and it could very well translate into this kind of conversation.

The fact some of you understand how stuff like GTA doesn't harm anyone and yet go apeshit crazy about lolis to the point you have to bash ever single work on dynasty with it, is beyond me.

Gabeerohas posted:

Man.. this is wrong. Luckly its a fiction, but this only show us how many people with pedo feels do exist in this world... and they're not only disgusting guys, but a lot, a looooot of "good" people ._.

If only everyone who enjoyed it actually had any desire to fuck children. Also you have no idea how many "good" people have weird fetishes, because... gasp*... they don't hurt anyone.

llenovo posted:

The reason why people enjoy playing violent videogames like GTA is because they're not actually hurting anybody, they're just enjoying an unrealistic power fantasy.

And yet you fail to understand how someone can enjoy a unrealistic erotic fantasy...

But this manga shows a realistic depiction of pedophilia. If you enjoy reading this kind of stuff, or, God forbid, if you we're aroused by this, how are you not a pedophile?

"realistic depiction of pedophilia" Yea, those anime characters, that child acting above her age, those 2 people in lovely dovely relationship that love and care about each other. That consensual sex. Yes the perfect, realistic depiction of pedophile raping a child. Not to mention those totally realistic fox ears. How anyone could consider it fiction escapes me.

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WELL SAID Nevri ^^^^^^

Just to be clear I disagree basically 100% with Nevri about pedophilia stuff. Even the most well-intentioned adult-child relationship runs the risk of trauma and putting the child through a lot of things they aren't emotionally ready for. Relationships can be rocky and messy and hard, regardless of who is in them. There's a difference of power to consider as well, not just physical, but kids are raised to listen to adults. Even if you didn't deliberately coerce the child, you'd have a lot more control over the relationship. That's just a fact.

All this amounts to that any relationship between an adult and a child is basically the adult deciding it's worth the risk of the child having to go through all this, because the adult wants that relationship. It's extremely selfish. This is even if there's no sex in the relationship. Even if the child might want that relationship too, hypothetically speaking, they're less emotionally equipped to make that decision and to handle any problems that might arise.

I also believe media can affect us without it being the fault of bad parenting. Propaganda works for a reason. Military working with Hollywood has also been very successful at increasing military enlisting in the past. A big part of it is personal biases everyone has, so media that contradicts your personal biases may not affect you much, but media might push you further along a trajectory you're already on. It's complicated.

I'm not saying loli makes you into a pedophile obviously. I'm not saying GTA or DOOM make you violent. More like, "Military shooters likely influence how people perceive the military" or "Stuff like 24 likely influenced people to be more okay with government torturing people." Not everyone, but people who were susceptible to those messages cuz they fit their existing biases.

Literally universal actually, since every species that now bothers with sexual reproduction in the first place has evolved varyingly elaborate mechanisms for avoiding consanguinity if at all possible. That's one egg that definitely came before the chicken.

Tell that to the dog who was fucking his own mother :>

See "if at all possible" - consanguinity > not procreating at all so family is defaulted to when no alternatives are available. Case in point, Komodo dragon females can hatch males parthenogenetically for want of partners - this enables a single female to colonize an entire island in a pinch, though RIP genetic diversity of the population.

This is also why social animals have behavioural mechanisms for dispersing offspring of at least one sex at sexual maturity - most commonly the pack/troop/pride/herd/whatever kicks out the young males before they start porking their mothers and sisters and aunts for lack of alternatives, but some species (eg. Cape hunting dogs) disperse the females instead. More solitary species have analogous adaptations for minimising consanguinity, and IIRC some have sensory-based kin recognition mechanisms for further avoidance later in life.

In the wild that dog would have parted ways with his natal pack ergo mother by the time it was time to start making puppies; in the unnatural context of human domestication seeing to that kind of thing is pretty much entirely up to the bipedal master race. (Also keep in mind that selective breeding usually seeks to strengthen specific recessive traits and duly more often than not involves some degrees of consanguinity...)

Itou should just sold these pics along with the official books for the ultimate lulz.

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I’m done with all the people on this discussion.
You guys are trying to justify pedophilia, FICTIONAL OR NOT.
Is this what you want people to think of yuri? Adult women going after kids?
What pisses me off is not the fact that someone drew this. While it is fucked up, Itou Hachi is not doing anything illegal. What really pisses me is people saying that reading and enjoying this is perfectly fine. And since it seems like a lot of you are fine with normalizing pedophilia I’m gonna keep myself out of this and any other lolicon discussion.
And before someone quotes that last part and goes “Why were you here in the first place then xD xD xD” Well no one else should be here anyways but here we are.

Not everyone, but people who were susceptible to those messages cuz they fit their existing biases.

Having done a little bit of research on censorship, I can tell you that censors never ever say, "This thing should be banned because it has harmful effect on me." The argument is always made that some other group (less empowered, weaker-willed, less moral, "at-risk," whatever) out there will be affected.

I'm saying nothing here about the media-effects argument--people have been arguing about it since time immemorial, and it's much too complicated and ambiguous for me to pretend that I have anything useful to add. But it's worth remembering that the argument for censorship is always: "I say this is bad not because it's directly harmful to me, but on behalf of Them, those Others who are not as ______ as I am."

I’m done with all the people on this discussion.
You guys are trying to justify pedophilia, FICTIONAL OR NOT.
Is this what you want people to think of yuri? Adult women going after kids?
What pisses me off is not the fact that someone drew this. While it is fucked up, Itou Hachi is not doing anything illegal. What really pisses me is people saying that reading and enjoying this is perfectly fine. And since it seems like a lot of you are fine with normalizing pedophilia I’m gonna keep myself out of this and any other lolicon discussion.
And before someone quotes that last part and goes “Why were you here in the first place then xD xD xD” Well no one else should be here anyways but here we are.

I think you just skipped the answers and ended up reading anything. Nobody here is trying to justify pedophilia but rather than that they are trying to explain in details the real difference between fiction and reality and their respective segments (loli/violence/hentai and other things) even a six-year-old would understand the difference. Bye bye, may Mrs. Loli lady take care of you.

What really pisses me is people saying that reading and enjoying this is perfectly fine.

We're capable of distinguishing between fiction and reality, yes. Do keep in mind that, as has been repeatedly pointed out already, this could legitimately boast the disclaimer "no children were harmed in the making of this smut" - unlike real CP.

I have a number of concerns with the setting of the main story in the first place, more or less summed up by another poster here - the premises are basically straight out of the more uncomfortable kind of hentai so yeah. Hell, I think I've run across a few H-games with roughly the same general idea. But folks seem to be okay with wilfully ignoring such worrisome details and their larger implications so whatever.

If anything this is just the author taking things to their logical conclusion. At least we know the Master is a basically decent person and there's mutual affection involved here rather than outright gross abuse so yay?

And since it seems like a lot of you are fine with normalizing pedophilia I’m gonna keep myself out of this and any other lolicon discussion.

You sure showed that strawman, but don't let the door hit you on the way out.

I made an account just to comment here. Let me start by saying I'm not some uptight moral crusader and I have absolutely nothing against lolicon etc. that doesn't involve actual kids. There is however a serious problem with how this specific work has been titled, tagged and listed on this site.

This is not an original doujin by Itou Hachi. It's actually just a collection of random hentai images drawn by this mangaka that were briefly posted on their various social media accounts and then taken down. Somebody has since then cobbled the images together, labelled it as an original doujin and given it a title and the illusion that this might be an actual cannon chapter or side story from the Master and Me series which it is not. Master and Me is basically a non-explicit, cute little yuri age gap story not hentai.

I'm sure the majority of the people who clicked this title were expecting just that, some cute little installment from Master and Me and instead they get something very different and very misleading. I'm not saying it should be taken down, but somebody should first of all remove the doujin descriptor and add something like (Collection of Non-cannon Hentai Images) to the title.

Misleading? what that hell are you talking about? its there in the damn title, hell it even have the tag of lolicon and NSFW! this is ridiculous, all these people(not you) talking about pedophilia and morals over fictional characters, over FUCKING DRAWN LINES taking form, if they really hate this kind of stuff then why that hell are they even here in the first place? to debate over their morals and stuff? fuck off! there are more explicit lolicon works out there and no one is crying about it, im pretty sure they are saying all this shit because they saw they precious NOT REAL dog-girl Mel doing lewd stuff and cant just accept it.

That's the first time Itou draw hentai, isn't it?
Praise our lord Itou Hachi!
What a time to be alive...

Im surprised since i never even knew itou hachi was even able to do nsfw since i thought they were into fluffy or light yuri that doesnt contain it. Either way i like how they did it it would be great if there were more

VivianGames posted:

Just to be clear I disagree basically 100% with Nevri about pedophilia stuff.

And here is what I meant. If you are talking about the adult x child relationship I wasn't talking about pedophilia, but you simply conflated those two as interchangeable

Even the most well-intentioned adult-child relationship runs the risk of trauma and putting the child through a lot of things they aren't emotionally ready for. Relationships can be rocky and messy and hard, regardless of who is in them. There's a difference of power to consider as well, not just physical, but kids are raised to listen to adults. Even if you didn't deliberately coerce the child, you'd have a lot more control over the relationship. That's just a fact.

Even if the child might want that relationship too, hypothetically speaking, they're less emotionally equipped to make that decision and to handle any problems that might arise.

Yes, I'm aware of all of that, that is why I said there is a lot things I won't be going into for time sake. I'm not ok with just any kid. To me they have to at least be 14 and clearly have understanding of what is going on. Also important thing is that it is not relationship with pedophile, because then there is no relationship. All pedophiles care about is sexual desire. I was talking about situation where adult is in love with person, not child. They love that person because it is them and not because they are a child. I understand finding balance in that kind of relationship is very hard and matter of having sex is highly debatable, w/e you should wait or it is ok if it's younger one who wants it or is ok with it. Also when I said "abuse" I also meant abuse of power and authority. I concluded making specific distinction was unnecessary, but of course there will always be someone who misses it.

Mind you that is really not my cup of tea. I don't really look for works like that. But if I encounter some and I find it cute or charming, I'm not flipping tables over it. In fact there is one really good here on dynasty. Would I date a child? I'd need to fall in love with them first, which is something I don't see happening ever because I don't find children attractive and I can't imagine relationship with them (and waiting until they get old enough sounds like pain). If child would confess to me, I'd take their feelings seriously, but I'd not date them, even to try out. So I don't even consider it irl (won't judge others for it, if they are genuine about it) and I'm simply ok with it in fiction and my enjoyment of work highly depends on execution and how much I get behind given couple.

I also believe media can affect us without it being the fault of bad parenting. Propaganda works for a reason. Military working with Hollywood has also been very successful at increasing military enlisting in the past. A big part of it is personal biases everyone has, so media that contradicts your personal biases may not affect you much, but media might push you further along a trajectory you're already on. It's complicated.

Yea. I didn't really cover it well enough, I just wanted to address people pointing out media can influence you, but didn't have enough time to properly get into it. I agree there are things that constant exposure to can change our perception of. For example people becoming less sensitive to extreme violence because of video games and movies showing gore left and right (which will always make me wonder how it is ok, but any minor nudity is too far. Apparently killing people in gruesome way is mature, but exploring sexuality will forever corrupt you). It is subtle but it is there. Still I feel like it doesn't invalided general point, as despite many researches there was no found correlation between violent video games and mass shootings (and increase in violence in general) the same way loli porn doesn't increase amount of pedophiles. If you didn't have it in you to murder/rape someone before, media is not going to change that. Of course with proper propaganda and manipulating you could change people opinions, but that would take a lot of time and effort, especially since hurting children is one of few things we are naturally programed to not do (prolonging our species and all that stuff).

LesbianT-54 posted:

What pisses me off is not the fact that someone drew this. While it is fucked up, Itou Hachi is not doing anything illegal. What really pisses me is people saying that reading and enjoying this is perfectly fine.

So drawing loli stuff is legal.
Reading and enjoying it is illegal.

So you can draw it as long as you don't share it??? You draw it just so you can fap to it??? You can read and enjoy your work without it being wrong??? Logic, where are you???

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I was introduced to the author through legally married yuri book' so I didn't expect to see something like this.
But what I actually find bad is that this is a nothing sandwich that might as well be uploaded under images

But what I actually find bad is that this is a nothing sandwich that might as well be uploaded under images

It'd be very amusing to see those 200+ posts under a single image, at least. Probably more discreet too.

Sometimes I wonder if people have actually been reading the same series I have. Here is the very first depiction of the personal relationship between Master and Mel (the one of which she says, "Master and I share a secret that we can't even tell Collette about.")

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/master_and_me#20

Admittedly, "very first depiction" is a bit of an overstatement--the actual first time we ever see the character of Mel, she's slipping out of the sleeping Master's bed.

(Again, this is not part of the pedophilia conversation, but the "this stuff is the opposite of the rest of the series" issue.)

Hi guys, just wanted to thank the uploader for uploading this so now I can jerk off while imagining myself between these two

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@Blastaar: Or the bath scene I linked two pages ago. And yet, I still have people telling me there was no indication whatsoever that something lewd was happening off-screen with these two and that I am weird for interpreting it that way (and I interpreted it that way since the beginning). When you factor in the whole slavery angle as well, the length to which some people will go to with mental gymnastics in order to interpret it as non-lewd/pure/whatever is really astounding. My theory always was that the utter cuteness of the art somehow compelled readers to do this. Even the slavery received its fair share of alternate interpretations and "we just do not know enough" arguments, but I am willing to wager if this was another author and the same amount of information was provided, nobody would even question that it is slavery, half the thread would probably be about that.

Every now and then I wonder if this series isn't Itou running a sort of social experiment on how much questionable stuff she(?) can get a pass on by the virtue of the cuteness of the art and characters before people start flipping out...

Having done a little bit of research on censorship, I can tell you that censors never ever say, "This thing should be banned because it has harmful effect on me." The argument is always made that some other group (less empowered, weaker-willed, less moral, "at-risk," whatever) out there will be affected.

I'm saying nothing here about the media-effects argument--people have been arguing about it since time immemorial, and it's much too complicated and ambiguous for me to pretend that I have anything useful to add. But it's worth remembering that the argument for censorship is always: "I say this is bad not because it's directly harmful to me, but on behalf of Them, those Others who are not as ______ as I am."

Oh I'm 100% susceptible to this. Literally everyone is. We're just susceptible to different things in different ways. Everyone has biases, and are vulnerable to media reinforcing those biases, or building on those biases to push towards a particular endpoint. I wasn't saying "other people are" I was just providing examples of media that does have an effect on some people. Other media has other effects on other people. We all have shit like this going on in our heads, and anyone who says they don't is lying to themselves. It's just not "Mortal Kombat makes kids do a violence."

@UranusAndNeptuneA
As to the slavery thing, I’d still stick up for the “we don’t know” position, if only because if we consider the hypothetical that if Mel were to tell the Master, “I want to go live somewhere else and do something else,” the issue is not “would she be free to do that?,” but that, given the ethos created by the story, such a request is literally almost unimaginable—Mel and Master want to be together more than anything else, and they are.

And as for the labor part, instructions to “do as much or as little as you want, or nothing at all” make for a pretty vague sort of slavery. The scenes of Mel’s past suggest that the beastkin institutions are rather like Victorian orphanages, where the girls are prepared to earn their living as house servants.

(We’re not even told why beastkin children are separated that way—I stick by my theory that it’s simply to get Mel into the Master’s house dressed in a maid’s outfit.)

I think the really weird part is that, unlike (I think) most of Itou Hachi’s other furry stories, we have the beastkin inserted as a unique yet humanoid species into a more-or-less standard human world. If we were to be told something like “the beastkin have a lifespan of around twenty years, and reach sexual maturity at four,” well, we’d have a rather different story.

But the author seems to have no interest in exploring the implications of having two species beyond Mel slipping off things and being saved by the Master with Mel’s tail ending up in a cute position.

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Well, She has GUTS for this art, and honestly, I hope she makes a sequel.

If you can't separate fiction and real life, you are as stupid as the people who claim "M rating games makes children violent" (when said games had the proper warning tag, and parents should buy those games... I mean, the ESRB was born cuz parents then thought MK was too mature for their puny mind children)

when this forum has more pages than the doujin itself
"oh hey, a shitstorm already happened"

ItouHachi. unintentionally creates discord and chaos about morality and stuff when all she wanted to do was create cute, animal-eared loli girls being cute.

Love all her works. bless her heart and the people who continued to upload her work.

Oh god.. xD

I made an account just to comment here. Let me start by saying I'm not some uptight moral crusader and I have absolutely nothing against lolicon etc. that doesn't involve actual kids. There is however a serious problem with how this specific work has been titled, tagged and listed on this site.

This is not an original doujin by Itou Hachi. It's actually just a collection of random hentai images drawn by this mangaka that were briefly posted on their various social media accounts and then taken down. Somebody has since then cobbled the images together, labelled it as an original doujin and given it a title and the illusion that this might be an actual cannon chapter or side story from the Master and Me series which it is not. Master and Me is basically a non-explicit, cute little yuri age gap story not hentai.

I'm sure the majority of the people who clicked this title were expecting just that, some cute little installment from Master and Me and instead they get something very different and very misleading. I'm not saying it should be taken down, but somebody should first of all remove the doujin descriptor and add something like (Collection of Non-cannon Hentai Images) to the title.

As a self-published series of pictures posted by the author online of their own characters, it is a original doujinshi. And to make sure that the release is kept separate from the main series itself, it was not added as part of the series, but as you said, a original doujinshi.

With the words "OneeLoli Hentai" and "NSFW Lolicon" tags attached, I don't think there is anything more that could be done to make it clear that this is not a normal release in the series. If anyone clicked on this release expecting neither hentai nor nsfw lolicon, renaming it slightly won't help.

Other than the people screeching back and forth about pedophilia there are a lot of people on this thread voicing confusion about this being part of the canon etc. I think the reason so many people have miss-clicked this thinking it was an actual Master and Me story by Itou Hachi rather than a random assortment of hentai pictures is precisely because of how its titled.

I took one quick scan of the new releases, saw Master and Me and just clicked it. I think if you simply changed the order of the wording and titled it OneeLoli Hentai, Master and and Mel would probably seriously cut back the number of miss-clicks. Since Itou never intended for these photos to be cobbled together as a makeshift story and certainly did not title the work themselves you should be able to rename it whatever you like.

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