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Parnifia the Bastard
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joined Aug 4, 2014

In retrospect, it was pretty clear, but somehow I didn't catch on that this was wrapping up until this chapter. There's always a certain melancholy when a story you love ends... I hope we get to see another story from this artist at some point.

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joined Feb 18, 2018

Gonna miss them so much ;-;

Vanilla!!!
joined Feb 12, 2016

wow i got way more emotionally invested in this than i expected i would when i read the first chapter when it was released omfffff
theyre so cute T_____TT I'll miss their story a lot.....!!! i really enjoyed the art style though I do so hope they do more long stuff

Breakdanceanomicon
joined Jun 13, 2015

END.
Mimika persevered and was not put behind bars. I'm so proud of her!

Judging from yuri manga, it must be fairly common for high-schoolers to fall in love at first sight with angelic little kids, but I think it was both wise and commendable of Mimika not to go the Happy Sugar Life route.

Less messy, too.

And yet HSL gets the anime adaptation. There's no justice.

I am saddened by this great series ending, but at least it never went shocking swerve bad end yandere even with like at least one page a chapter that made it look like the tone was about to shift into that territory, even in this chapter, for that matter!

Sulk
joined Jul 19, 2015

As far as I'm concerned
hand holding > kisses

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joined Dec 26, 2014

that was it? it didnt seem to last that long even f it was 33 chapters....everything ends lately :(

joined Jul 26, 2016

The "should we hold hands as well?" on the last page shows that there's more than one couple in the end.

Someone's going for the osananajimi route, indeed.

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joined Nov 13, 2015

GOOD END

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joined Aug 11, 2016

'weeps in a corner somewhere'

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joined Apr 28, 2016

Hot damn, adult Mimika is easy on the eyes.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I took another look at most of the story today, and I almost felt like doing a precise page count of how often Mimika was being being blown away by Yuzumori, attempting to keep her feelings in check this side of criminality, or generally trying to keep her sanity somewhat intact in the face of the unbridled force of the universe that is Yuzumori.

It’s a lot, I’ll tell you that.

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joined Mar 3, 2017

Excuse me... I-I have to go.... sniff
uuuuu... T_T

joined Feb 21, 2018

My comment had nothing to do with what the point of romance stories is. I was praising how the character's love was presented.

You literally just contradicted yourself. Romance stories are about presenting the characters love. Here we have little enough to just tag it as subtext instead of yuri.

That may be what you personally enjoy in romance, but ultimately the genre is about showing romantic love. How intimately the story delves into the characters' private moments is at the author's total discretion. For instance it's very common to leave the characters' having sex up to the reader's imagination.

It's not romantic love if there is no sexual acts. It would instead be platonic love by definition.

I mean if that's what you got out of the ending it's fine to interpret it that way. I think their love is on the right track personally. Even though Yuzumori is growing and changing in looks and personality over time, Mimika still loves her. That counts for more than any kiss.

No, it doesn't since it leaves too many questions that the reader is forced to interpret and make up their own stories, which is not the point of reading a story written by someone else. What do you think a plothole is?

joined Jul 26, 2016

It's not romantic love if there is no sexual acts. It would instead be platonic love by definition.

What.

Animeyuridanshismall
joined Apr 25, 2014

It's not romantic love if there is no sexual acts. It would instead be platonic love by definition.

What.

dont you know? it doesnt count as yuri if the characters dont do some hardcore tribbing for 40 pages.

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joined Jun 3, 2017

My comment had nothing to do with what the point of romance stories is. I was praising how the character's love was presented.

You literally just contradicted yourself. Romance stories are about presenting the characters love. Here we have little enough to just tag it as subtext instead of yuri.

That may be what you personally enjoy in romance, but ultimately the genre is about showing romantic love. How intimately the story delves into the characters' private moments is at the author's total discretion. For instance it's very common to leave the characters' having sex up to the reader's imagination.

It's not romantic love if there is no sexual acts. It would instead be platonic love by definition.

I mean if that's what you got out of the ending it's fine to interpret it that way. I think their love is on the right track personally. Even though Yuzumori is growing and changing in looks and personality over time, Mimika still loves her. That counts for more than any kiss.

No, it doesn't since it leaves too many questions that the reader is forced to interpret and make up their own stories, which is not the point of reading a story written by someone else. What do you think a plothole is?

Well, everyone is entitled to their own opinion about what defines "romance" and how it has to be portrayed, which ultimately is left to the author's sensibility, but you make it sound like "romantic love" necessarily implies explicit sexual acts. Personally, that's what I'd define as "sensual love" which, I'm sure you know, is not only different from "platonic love", but also from love as it represented in "erotica" or "pornography" narrative.

See how two characters go from not knowing each other (or being friends) to confessing each other's feelings is romance and what defines a love story (Yuzumori-san fits this definition perfectly). Any further physical manifestation of love and sexual desire is only functional to the story if the author thinks it so. (and this comes from somebody who wanted them kissing every chapter)

Also, I'm sure themusicman500 knows what a plothole is, which is different from a story that leaves an open ending.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

“Platonic love” does NOT mean “no sex”: it means “no lust or sexual desire.” Mimika spends the entire story trying to control her desire to physically express her love (and sometimes only barely succeeding); Yuzumori is all for it herself, but she accepts that they’re both too young for that aspect of their romantic relationship at the moment and they agree to stay in love and wait until they’re legal.

“Platonic love” is about transcending (and therefore eliminating) physical desire; being a couple while restraining your physical desire until an appropriate time or stage of life is called “love.”

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joined Jul 16, 2017

Ah que bonito final :''v

Marion Diabolito
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joined Jan 5, 2015

It's not romantic love if there is no sexual acts. It would instead be platonic love by definition.

What.

dont you know? it doesnt count as yuri if the characters dont do some hardcore tribbing for 40 pages.

Comment on your own stories, Mira!!!


This was a wonderful story. Yuri version beats the heck out of Kodomo no Jikan, whether it gets an anime or not!!

#glaresateveryonedefiantly

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joined Jul 26, 2016

Merriam-Webster tells me the definition of "platonic love" is
1: love conceived by Plato as ascending from passion for the individual to contemplation of the universal and ideal
2: a close relationship between two persons in which sexual desire is nonexistent or has been suppressed or sublimated

#1 obviously isn't relevant here; as for #2, the relevant definition for "sublimation" would be to divert the expression of (an instinctual desire or impulse) from its unacceptable form to one that is considered more socially or culturally acceptable (the Wikipedia article adds "unconsciously" to that)... yeah, I don't think Mimika really does any of that. Depending on your definitions I suppose her very conscious refusal to act on her sexual desires would count for the "suppression" part though so fair enough.

Throwing "romantic" at M-W - there's no specific definition for "romantic love" in it apparently - nets me a link to "romance" and from there to "love affair" (a romantic attachment or episode between lovers) and the following relevant lines:
5b : marked by expressions of love or affection
c : conducive to or suitable for lovemaking
...while FWIW Wikipedia article on "romantic love" includes:
Anthropologist Charles Lindholm defined love to be "...an intense attraction that involves the idealization of the other, within an erotic context, with expectation of enduring sometime into the future."

Well that rather sounds like our lovebirds here if you ask me.

Significantly, not one of the various definitions discussed in the article includes sexual acts as some manner of requirement for romantic love; indeed the early historical iteration of the concept, Medieval courtly love, at least formally held that they basically had no business in the whole affair in the first place. (People being people it ought to be safe to assume any number of high ladies and gallant knights rather transgressed on the "purity of heart and mind" of the ideal theory behind closed doors but that's neither here nor there.)

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I know I contributed to it myself, but we really don’t need a lot of laborious definitions here—Mimika and Yuzumori spend most of two chapters (29 & 30) sitting in the middle of the street confessing their love and skinshipping just short of tongue kissing and genital penetration (i.e., what would be in this context criminal behavior). Then later:

Mimika to Yuzumori: “I want to be with you forever.”
Yuzumori to Mimika: “Wait for me.”
Mimika to Yuzumori (silently): “Yet each time we meet, I fall in love with you all over again.”

I have no shared frame of reference to have a rational conversation with anyone who calls that “subtext.”

(After all, once you’ve passionately nibbled someone’s nose, there’s no going back to being “just friends.”)

Heihtzz
joined Oct 16, 2016

If it wasn't super gay romantic love, they would've said no homo. Case closed.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

I know I contributed to it myself, but we really don’t need a lot of laborious definitions here—Mimika and Yuzumori spend most of two chapters (29 & 30) sitting in the middle of the street confessing their love and skinshipping just short of tongue kissing and genital penetration (i.e., what would be in this context criminal behavior). Then later:

Mimika to Yuzumori: “I want to be with you forever.”
Yuzumori to Mimika: “Wait for me.”
Mimika to Yuzumori (silently): “Yet each time we meet, I fall in love with you all over again.”

I have no shared frame of reference to have a rational conversation with anyone who calls that “subtext.”

(After all, once you’ve passionately nibbled someone’s nose, there’s no going back to being “just friends.”)

Who needs marriage proposals when you can tie the knot via nose nibbling? Also I agree with you.

I'm really uncertain how people are calling this subtext when both characters acknowledged their love for each other, they're only waiting till Yuzumori is old enough to kiss and so fourth. That said I'd really like an epilogue with them like 10 years in the future and a kiss. Maybe a kiss at a marriage ceremony, but I might be getting greedy.

themusicman500
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joined Jan 18, 2016

I'm really uncertain how people are calling this subtext when both characters acknowledged their love for each other, they're only waiting till Yuzumori is old enough to kiss and so fourth. That said I'd really like an epilogue with them like 10 years in the future and a kiss. Maybe a kiss at a marriage ceremony, but I might be getting greedy.

Exactly one person called this subtext, and I really hope they weren't being sincere.

Bagpipe%20cute
joined Sep 27, 2017

I'm really uncertain how people are calling this subtext when both characters acknowledged their love for each other, they're only waiting till Yuzumori is old enough to kiss and so fourth. That said I'd really like an epilogue with them like 10 years in the future and a kiss. Maybe a kiss at a marriage ceremony, but I might be getting greedy.

Exactly one person called this subtext, and I really hope they weren't being sincere.

Ah I only read through some of the more recent comments and I saw others were talking about the series being labeled as subtext, so I thought it was a big topic and debate. That's what I get for not reading through a few pages of comments first, my apologies.

Still I also hope they weren't being sincere.

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