I really liked those extra bits - and the manga overall - though I thought the elementary school angst stuff could have all been cut - it wasn't what the story was about.

And As for the person a few posts back in mentioning Sakura trick - since when was that het porn yuri?? It was for fans of yuri clearly! Not straight guys who just get off on lesbians - they are not gonna like Sakura trick, which is about their romance and just has kissing! Sure it's not a great story or high art yuri lol - but it is pure yuri for yuri fans, just of simpler and comedic nature!

It also WAS using the kisses as part of its appeal but that was still appealing to yuri fans not hentai fans who do not normally watch yuri! Also, it was the first ever anime to feature LOTS of yuri kissing - EVER - and you have a problem with that?? It broke new ground for a yuri anime. There are precious few other shows with even 1 real yuri kiss! And just because there are better more quality serious yuri manga out there they could do, does NOT detract from it at all.

People still keep complaining about the ending for whatever reason.... Can you just stop?

People need to complain about pretty much any series because it’s important to prove that they’re so much smarter and have so much better taste than the people who like it OK the way it is. In fact, they get money for complaining about it—I mean, they must, right? Because I don’t understand the depth of their commitment otherwise.

People are allowed to not like things. I mean, I had no problem with the ending but if others did that's their prerogative as a consumer of media.

Of course, that goes without saying. I’m always interested in hearing what people do and don’t respond to in manga.

But there seems to be a devoted cadre of people who feel compelled to express some version of, “Ermahgerd, I wish that series was still running so I could drop it again!” every time a particular title gets a positive mention.

That I don’t get.

I forgot this exists.

The Kodoma-ing in these extra chapters is getting out of hand. It's also extremely hilarious

The explanation that it's written like a battle manga was pretty insightful, and with that in mind a few scenes are more understandable.

The Kodoma-ing in these extra chapters is getting out of hand. It's also extremely hilarious

The explanation that it's written like a battle manga was pretty insightful, and with that in mind a few scenes are more understandable.

I'd repressed that wonderful image of Mimika's dad in the bath, for the same reason she could weaponize it, I guess.

Can anyone explain why the Kodama exclamations? What does it mean? As far as I know Kodama are those little white spirit yokai men thingies of Japanese legend.

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elevown posted:

Can anyone explain why the Kodama exclamations? What does it mean? As far as I know Kodama are those little white spirit yokai men thingies of Japanese legend.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/yuzumori_san_ch17#2
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/yuzumori_san_ch17#3

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Battle yuri romance.

What would they even call that? That actually sounds pretty cool.

^ that sounds like Negima - if you made Negi a female character.

Kodama!!

elevown posted:

Can anyone explain why the Kodama exclamations? What does it mean? As far as I know Kodama are those little white spirit yokai men thingies of Japanese legend.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/yuzumori_san_ch17#2
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/yuzumori_san_ch17#3

Thanks Nya-chan :)

I now know where it comes from and why she is saying it - but it doesn't explain why she chooses to call her mental technique of blocking her excitement by imagining her father 'kodama'.

The tn notes on 17.3 explain it can mean tree spirit (which I knew) and literally, can translate to 'echo' - and thus I still don't get why she chose to call it that since neither tree spirit or echo seem related?

Its not a big deal why that name tho, now at least I understand the meaning behind it. Just curious.

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If she keeps using kodama every time she has a sexual thought, she's going to make a terrible involuntary connection by the time they actually get round to doing anything more physical.

I just re-read this and wanted to say this: I love Mimika! She is one of the best Yuri MCs for me, even if she is a massive pedo for Yuzu. And I intensely dislike the Lolicon genre, but this manga's one of my favorites.

I just re-read this and wanted to say this: I love Mimika! She is one of the best Yuri MCs for me, even if she is a massive pedo for Yuzu. And I intensely dislike the Lolicon genre, but this manga's one of my favorites.

you just voice my thoughts lol
it's Yuzumori san fault for being so cute lol

I just re-read this and wanted to say this: I love Mimika! She is one of the best Yuri MCs for me, even if she is a massive pedo for Yuzu. And I intensely dislike the Lolicon genre, but this manga's one of my favorites.

Perhaps its because she is even less mature than Yuzu in some ways? Or because tho it is hard for her, she resists any temptations and is determined to wait.? After all there is no crime in what one thinks, only what one does.

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Mimika isn't a pedophile (QED her reaction to Ririha and Isuzu), she's Yuzuphile. o3o
(And to her credit works hard to not cross any moral and legal thresholds there either.)

Also hilarious which generally gets a character forgiven a lot.

All of the reasons above, I think.

Also, this manga doesn't over-sexualize Yuzu, unlike most of the other Loli-Yuri stuff I've seen that contain sexualization of children (like having huge boobs for a pre-adolescent girl, big butt, pee jokes, showing clevage etc.). The author handles the visualization of Mimika's attraction for Yuzu really well, without actually fetishizing her.

All of the reasons above, I think.

Also, this manga doesn't over-sexualize Yuzu, unlike most of the other Loli-Yuri stuff I've seen that contain sexualization of children (like having huge boobs for a pre-adolescent girl, big butt, pee jokes, showing clevage etc.). The author handles the visualization of Mimika's attraction for Yuzu really well, without actually fetishizing her.

That’s true—the way the figures are stylized, I don’t actually think Yuzumori (or pretty much anyone else) is attractive to me, but I absolutely see completely clearly how and why Mimika finds her attractive.

It’s not a knock on the art at all—it’s just that the eyes and heads are so big and the noses so sharp, etc. that it’s a little distancing.

Also, this manga doesn't over-sexualize Yuzu, unlike most of the other Loli-Yuri stuff I've seen that contain sexualization of children (like having huge boobs for a pre-adolescent girl, big butt, pee jokes, showing clevage etc.). The author handles the visualization of Mimika's attraction for Yuzu really well, without actually fetishizing her.

THANK YOU.

The narrative does a very good job of conveying that Mimika - specifically and solely Mimika - is sexualizing Yuzumori. Yuzumori doesn't appear suxualized or act provocatively on her own (despite certain people being in vehement denial of that fact). When she's just sitting there playing video games or studying, the panels aren't taking blatant focus on risque parts of Yuzumori's body. Those shots only come when Mimika starts leering, and are clearly taken from her point of view. They effectively illustrate Mimika's obsession, but glamorize it far less than the typical lolicon story.

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I feel like the ending was kind of disappointing. Obviously the characters made the right choice, to wait until Yuzumori is old enough to consent before they do anything. But most of the tension came from Mimika's desire to do something that is clearly wrong, and how she dealt with it. When she can just say "Oh I'll just wait" it feels too easy.

Maybe I'm saying I wanted her to give in to temptation (as creepy as that is), or at least struggle with it more, as a way to make the story more interesting.

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I feel like the ending was kind of disappointing. Obviously the characters made the right choice, to wait until Yuzumori is old enough to consent before they do anything. But most of the tension came from Mimika's desire to do something that is clearly wrong, and how she dealt with it. When she can just say "Oh I'll just wait" it feels too easy.

Maybe I'm saying I wanted her to give in to temptation (as creepy as that is), or at least struggle with it more, as a way to make the story more interesting.

That’s why a lot of people complained about the limited nature of the time skip—the obvious thing to do would have been to jump ahead far enough to have OK Yuzumika sexytimes.

I don’t mind particularly—we know they stay together, and we know where the relationship is heading (and we know who the top is going to be)—but it was . . .oh, crap, “anticlimactic” is really the right word, isn’t it?

I miss this manga. It was perfect to me. It deserves an anime but isn't lewd or controversial enough to get one.

Yeah, yuri manga don't really get anime unless A) they're aimed at straight men, or B) they portray a clearly deviant or unhealthy relationship to implicitly support the cultural belief that sapphic romance is deviant and unhealthy.

Mimika is far too dedicated to making sure her interactions with Yuzumori never cross the line into ones that would be inappropriate for a child of her age to be sufficiently melodramatic.

About half of all anime with yuri elements fall outside those criteria. The simple fact is the vast majority of ALL anime are aimed at strait teenage boys and young men and a large portion of all dramatic romance anime showcase some form of unhealthy relationship. This is hardly a problem that exists only for the yuri genre.

I frankly loved the fact that Yuzumori-san is a very well-depicted precocious genius. She understood what a pedophile is, and instead of simply moralizing, she thought wow, if she really is like that she won't really like or even see ME, just "the prettiest kid in the grade school." So we won't have a relationship once I'm not tiny, cute and very underage. And her next move was to immediately ask Mimika about all of the above. And Mimika didn't just answer, she pondered and soul-searched and worried, and decided no, it was just Yuzumori-san after all. And then we got to see how she reacted to her when she was a teenager - still in love with her but also missing that cute (meaning child) element. She even said she had to fall in love with her all over again. So Mimika did have that element, but it wasn't as important as her love for Yuzumori-san. And this in a mostly comedy! By the time they get together Yuzumori-san will be much more mature and educated than Mimika, I think. She's nearly there as a teen.

I really enjoyed Yuzumori-san. The drawings were beautiful, the relationship between Mimika and Yuzumori is the most purest thing I've ever seen.
I would like more chapters to see the development of their relationship (now that Yuzumori is a teenage girl) and the kiss!
It's cute, funny and sometimes sad but everything is fine.

I want to shoot the essences of this manga straight into my vein.