So she was serious about her, i think it went to quickly, that time skip kinda ruin it.

Is this really the end? The afterword made it sound like the author was not yet done writing about this couple.

One of Jins lesser works. So disjointed, could have cut out half the chapters to make the story more concise, time skip was such a cop out, and them finally getting together was anti climatic.

Unfortunate that they just time skipped away all the romantic development.

Is this really the end? The afterword made it sound like the author was not yet done writing about this couple.

There's been a couple more chapters so far.

Is this really the end? The afterword made it sound like the author was not yet done writing about this couple.

There's been a couple more chapters so far.

Is that a good or bad thing? There was huge turn (over 2 years). Either Yamanaka has changed and they'll show that, or she didn't and they'll be sad to read...

She also wrote that her other storyboards were rejected. I hope we'll someday be able to read those. They may actually be better.

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maaaan, i want more Jin :(

"Toudou cut her hair short because she's pregnant"

Is this a Japanese thing? I don't get why someone would do that

Short hair is easier to look after, and won't get in the way as much if you're likely to be throwing up a lot.

"Toudou cut her hair short because she's pregnant"

Is this a Japanese thing? I don't get why someone would do that

I don't know if people do it so much today, but traditionally cutting your hair to mark a major life change was indeed a Japanese thing. It pops up in romance stuff a lot, girls will get their hair cut after a big breakup for instance.

One of Jins lesser works. So disjointed, could have cut out half the chapters to make the story more concise, time skip was such a cop out, and them finally getting together was anti climatic.

Unfortunate that they just time skipped away all the romantic development.

It pains me that so many readers fail to see that the romantic development was happening well before the time skip. But I understand that the serialized format makes it kind of hard to follow...

Unfortunate that they just time skipped away all the romantic development.

And this is why people only scanlate simple plot A stories that nobody can get confused by: Anything even remotely subtle flies right past many in the audience.

We saw the romantic development. We saw more than most couples in most manga ever get. It just wasn't in your face with a sledgehammer.

One of Jins lesser works. So disjointed, could have cut out half the chapters to make the story more concise, time skip was such a cop out, and them finally getting together was anti climatic.

Are you just bitter and critical on absolutely everything?
It's literally all I've seen you post is pointless negativity.
Go do something productive with your life, damn.

The story was perfectly fine, the time skip served its purpose and is a bizarre thing to take issue with when you complain about the story not being "concise" enough, and getting together was plenty climactic because it was cute as fuck.

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Well, certainly one of Jin's weakest works but an enjoyable read nonetheless. Here's hoping the next stories are an improvement.

I liked this until the time skip. So much went unexplained and undeveloped. I mean, clearly she's actually in love now or close to it, but there's so little to this.

Is this concluded now? MAL has the series listed at 15 chapters

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And just when it thought Jin was one of the best yuri manga artists.....sighs....

This story happened and bumped her down.

Well at least she is more decent than most artists.

And just when it thought Jin was one of the best yuri manga artists.....sighs....

This story happened and bumped her down.

Well at least she is more decent than most artists.

She's still one of the best yuri mangaka. This doesn't mean all her stories will be equally good.

As for this story... It worked much better as an one-shot. The first chapters were still decent tho.

Best Mangaka Rohan posted:

This story happened and bumped her down.

Because everything that artist do must be gold otherwise they become trash.

One of Jins lesser works. So disjointed, could have cut out half the chapters to make the story more concise, time skip was such a cop out, and them finally getting together was anti climatic.

Are you just bitter and critical on absolutely everything?
It's literally all I've seen you post is pointless negativity.
Go do something productive with your life, damn.

The story was perfectly fine, the time skip served its purpose and is a bizarre thing to take issue with when you complain about the story not being "concise" enough, and getting together was plenty climactic because it was cute as fuck.

Do you have something better to do with your life than stalking me and taking issue with my personal opinion? Sorry I don't like what you like, but you need to learn to get over that. You are going to have to deal with a lot of people with opposing opinions in life, better start building that tolerance asap. Also, got to love how you are calling me out when several others have voiced similar opinions.

The time skip served no purpose but to not have to show any actual progress between them between dumping the boyfriend and getting a girlfriend. It would have been great to see the reaction of a girl finally dumping her boyfriend for her instead of the reverse. And it makes the story a lot less concise by skipping on years of "romance", we have to come up with our own story to fill the gap, so it makes sense to complain about both. And cute? Treats her like every single one night stand she has ever had and that's cute? Lol. This is just a bad story with a shitty character who gets the girl despite acting like a huge bitch the whole time. Even Jin undetstands how absurd this story is, at least she is self aware. People acting like this is somehow good are fine to their opinion, just like how I am to mine.

Whatever, not going to reply anymore. Just hoping Nez doesn't like this series, too. Being threatened to be banned over having an opinion once is enough.

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The time skip served no purpose but to not have to show any actual progress between them between dumping the boyfriend and getting a girlfriend. It would have been great to see the reaction of a girl finally dumping her boyfriend for her instead of the reverse.

The flashback at the beginning of chapter 12 is her reaction to realizing Taneda had broken up with her boyfriend. We know from chapter 11 that Taneda then patiently played the waiting game, leaving to Yamanaka to eventually come after her and it showed how that approach bore fruit. Given the nature of Taneda's successful way of winning Yamanaka over, the time skip was needed. The important points that led to the outcome were shown.

Of all the works of Takemiya-sensei, this is the story I fell in love with. I can see how she puts her heart on Yamanaka. She is beautifully created. I could see as well how Takemiya-sensei evolved in her storytelling. She uses both, i.e., the rule-of-the-thumb, "show, don't tell" and the road-less-trodden, "tell, don't show". The latter created confusions from readers, I think. However, if you do like what Koveras did, you would appreciate the story, I think. Though, there were things I am not agreeable with, still, the post is still worth the read. With that said, I will not write an in-depth comment since the story is ongoing.

And this is why people only scanlate simple plot A stories that nobody can get confused by: Anything even remotely subtle flies right past many in the audience.

We saw the romantic development. We saw more than most couples in most manga ever get. It just wasn't in your face with a sledgehammer.

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The story was perfectly fine, the time skip served its purpose and is a bizarre thing to take issue with when you complain about the story not being "concise" enough, and getting together was plenty climactic because it was cute as fuck.

Yes and more, the story tells that Yamanaka was in love with Taneda even before the time skip. The same way with Taneda, her admiration for Yamanaka turned into love even way before the boyfriend noticed to the point it was already that strong to break it off from him.

Edit: If I may, I encourage others to read Takemiya Jin's works. One of her strong points is her characters. She mostly uses straight-up narration to which I like as well. Girlish sweets has an interwoven individual/couple's stories but it is neatly done and I liked the concept of the ending. An Absurd Relationship and A Song About Missing You created a venue to establish herself as a mangaka who has a wider range of storytelling style.

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It would have been great to see the reaction of a girl finally dumping her boyfriend for her instead of the reverse.

Except for Yamanaka to know she had dumped her boyfriend for her would go against the plot entirely. This clearly wasn't the sort of series you were looking for or expecting it to be. As much as people don't like Yamanaka for being a cheater and cold hearted, Taneda was manipulative from the very start. She basically toyed with her all but saying "I know you're gay" just to fluster/screw with her. She's also fully aware of what sort of cold and distant person Yamanaka is, so when it comes time for her to break up with her boyfriend (who she never talked about to Yamanaka in the first place until they were stumbled upon together) she doesn't just go running to tell her about it. She plays the game she outright says she did, waiting for Yamanaka to come to her. As to the "romantic development" between the two. That all happens in build up to, and is the reason for, Taneda leaving her boyfriend.

This wasn't some sugary-sweet, diabetes inducing, "yuri is the purest form of love" nonsense from the start. And quite frankly I'm happy. I'd rather just see the two of them come together despite their idiosyncrasies rather than have the power of "twue wove" suddenly "fix" Yamanaka. In fact, you can see how they work well together considering the fact Taneda is actively trying to get her to go on actual dates, and it's apparently just a thing she's never really done before in her past relationships. The first girl we see in the first chapter cheated on her because she didn't know how to deal with that part of Yamanaka, whereas Taneda successfully manages to get her to at least try, even if all she comes up with in the end is a bar.

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This is why i love reading the comments section. It kinda fills me in of important stuff i missed. I admit the first few chapter bugged me but i loved the ending. Gotta reread.

Going back and reading this from the start, it is rather good.

The manga only shows Yamanaka cheating once which felt like a flash-back to maybe her college years? Later, she mentions that in her past she'd be quick to take a woman to bed, but not any more which of course implies that the has changed. As for her adult self, it really seems as if she's tired of these games and while she'll sleep with varying women, she's not in a relationship with any of them. It's implied that she had some sort of heartbreak in her past and later says that couples should drop dead. I wouldn't call her a cheater now over past decisions.

I think Yamanaka does care for others, she just doesn't show it much and when people do bad by her, she's a no bullshit type. The one woman she was in love with from work as sleeping with men begging for Yamanaka's attention and the other was cheating on her fiance while keeping that a secret until the last minute. Learning of these things, Yamanaka just sets the record straight with each girl; she fell out of love with the first while the girl messed with men for attention and with the other she just clarified that the relationship was never on a romantic level. Nothing she has done bugs me nor find it to still be an issue, really. The past is the past and now as a working adult she's got two women wanting her to make their decisions for them.

Her personality is pretty obvious. So really for other people its like touching a hot kettle, but then complaining about getting burned.

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Fenny posted:

And this is why people only scanlate simple plot A stories that nobody can get confused by: Anything even remotely subtle flies right past many in the audience.

That's not the only reason. There are also readers who demand every single work on this site to be "yuri" first and foremost, while challenging everything that isn't outright lesbian porn in regards to whether it is "even yuri" in the first place.

Ackerman posted:

However, if you do like what Koveras did, you would appreciate the story, I think. Though, there were things I am not agreeable with, still, the post is still worth the read. With that said, I will not write an in-depth comment since the story is ongoing.

Would you mind telling me which parts of my interpretation you disagree with? I am honestly interested in them, since I freely admit that large parts of my posts are mostly conjecture, and I am always willing to discuss alternate interpretations. :-)

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There are also readers who demand every single work on this site to be "yuri" first and foremost, while challenging everything that isn't outright lesbian porn in regards to whether it is "even yuri" in the first place.

Haha, I'd expect Type A stories to be first on their chopping block.

Would you mind telling me which parts of my interpretation you disagree with? I am honestly interested in them

Not Ackerman, but personally, I disagree mainly with the length of the relationship she had with her boyfriend. She still went to love hotels with him, after all - that doesn't seem to be something that fits to a guy wealthy enough and serious enough to buy really expensive rings as a gift. You'd expect them to be at his home there.

( or so I interpreted https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/an_absurd_relationship_ch09#10 )

Of course, we'll likely never know, and it's just interpretation :) The length there ultimately changes nothing, and your overall summary was really neat.

And just when it thought Jin was one of the best yuri manga artists.....sighs....

This story happened and bumped her down.

Seriously? You didn't like one story (enough to keep coming back to complain about it over and over) and that tarnishes all other works? I know some people are obsessed with purity, but jeeeeeeeeeez.

(I also find that rather suspect from someone that ships a murderous arrancar with their potential victim, going by avatar :P )