Why is everyone blackbarring their comments

Because they're referencing material from a chapter that hasn't been posted here yet. I didn't in my last one because, in that case, I wasn't.

Why is everyone blackbarring their comments

Because they're referencing material from a chapter that hasn't been posted here yet. I didn't in my last one because, in that case, I wasn't.

It should be noted that doing so is mandatory.

It's not a love-triangle, it is just pretty much going through a "bullshit angst manga" phase in such a mongoloid way, bringing half-assed drama in order to somehow add a shock factor that was never needed to begin with. Their age difference was more than enough.

Just because there's angst doesn't mean it's bad. I'd wait and see how the next chapters after this play out to decide weather this is going downhill. Although I will agree with you on the fact that the tone shift came out of nowhere.

last edited at Sep 20, 2017 8:15AM

well this looks like a pretty conflictive place so better get the fuck out of here there´s so much pointless discussion

It's not a love-triangle, it is just pretty much going through a "bullshit angst manga" phase in such a mongoloid way, bringing half-assed drama in order to somehow add a shock factor that was never needed to begin with. Their age difference was more than enough.

well

... Their age difference was more than enough

The drama is considerably less interesting than the dynamics of the actual relationship.

It sounds like quite the rough day. Not only do you realise you are gay, but you happen to be a lolicon too.
And then the following chapters watching Mimika trying not to be perverse or act on her desires were fantastic.

But these later chapters feel like they could be in any generic drama.

last edited at Sep 4, 2017 2:19AM

It's not a love-triangle, it is just pretty much going through a "bullshit angst manga" phase in such a mongoloid way, bringing half-assed drama in order to somehow add a shock factor that was never needed to begin with. Their age difference was more than enough.

Just because there's angst doesn't mean it's bad. I'd wait and see how the next chapters after this play out to decide weather this is going downhill. Although I will agree with you on the fact that the tone shift came out of nowhere.

Also speak for yourself about the age-gap, I had zero problem with that.

Yeah but Mimika realized the age gap because of how natural Yuzumori looked with girls her age

What's up with these conniving twisted grade schoolers???????

Geez that lil lil girl is a very clever liar... She's bothering too much... But maybe there good reasons behind her weird character...?

And just like that, my hype for this series is killed

Let's say not everyone likes petty angst, even if you do. Which doesn't mean it's good, either. I personally think it's going downhill, just like I did months ago when Ririha first appeared and now I keep being proven so with these last couple of chapters. Again, my personal opinion.

I'm not really sure why, but I don't see this drama as petty. I think it's the fact that I've enjoyed every single chapter up until now that it's hard to just flat out say that the manga has gone to shit. But I can get what you're saying here. You're saying that the drama here is bad because the manga all of a sudden introduced a character that for some reason want's to cause problems for our main couple, and in other cases I'd agree with you, I really hate it when that happens. But, up until now I never saw Ririha as a problem. That's why before I was saying that there was no chance of them splitting up. because, once again up until now, every time it looked like they would split up the situation would fix itself. But I never expected Ririha to actually succeed in splitting them apart. And I do think it's weird that Yuzumori didn't see through Ririha's plan and try to tell Mimika that she was lying.

Jesus Christ. Am I the only one who doesn't believe that this will go downhill? Do you people just give up on a manga once you see the slightest form of drama? This isn't a fucking love triangle, Yuzumori-san makes it very clear that she loves no one else but Mimika, and Mimika is clearly shown to not have any interest in Ririha. It's not like the cliffhanger has Mimika saying something like "I don't think I should be with you anymore".

Seriously guys, like I said before, take a look at what you're reading. It's a Yuri comedy that's a deconstruction of the Lolicon genre. It's not a bullshit angst manga.

Who said anyone is going to give up on this? And it's not the first time melodramatic themes were up. Except the first time there was drama, it was very tame and passable, Yuzumori's loneliness was actually depicted semi-decently.

It's not a love-triangle, it is just pretty much going through a "bullshit angst manga" phase in such a mongoloid way, bringing half-assed drama in order to somehow add a shock factor that was never needed to begin with. Their age difference was more than enough.

Not to mention having a character ruining the life of poor Yuzu without any motivation introduced just for the sake of shock value. We know nothing about the little sociopath. We only know that she hates Yuzu and that's it. Couldn't be more clear that this is the bullshit angst manga phase of a manga that didn't needed it

No matter the angst bs that's happening, it'll be interesting how Mimika handles finding out she's been tricked. How will she confront the two fourth graders? Can she do that? With the age of the girls it will be interesting. Highly unlikely but perhaps adults will get involved?( Although I merely state that as to explore all avenues, it probably won't happen due to the whole age Gap problem) I think there's no real way to get back at them. What can she do is really the big question once she's figured this whole manipulation mess.

But I never expected Ririha to actually succeed in splitting them apart. And I do think it's weird that Yuzumori didn't see through Ririha's plan and try to tell Mimika that she was lying.

But, take a look at what Yuzumori knows:
1) She doesn’t think of Mimika as “what she holds dear”: last time we checked, she was kicking Mimika’s butt at Iron Senpai while mulling over Ririha’s words. The topic hasn’t been brought up again, so I’m assuming that she has yet to associate Mimika to what Ririha said. 2) Mimika doesn’t explicitly say that it was Ririha who told her she’s not hanging out with her friends, she doesn’t even mention that they talked even, she just assumes she knows Yuzumori’s relationship with her so-called “friends” as she tells her that, “you should play with your friends. I don’t love you anymore”.
That’s all Yuzumori hears, that’s all that matters to her. She’s completely ignorant about everything else. I believe we should separate what we readers know from what Yuzumori does.

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For Ririha, the ending of "The Bad Seed" comes to mind. Homage, anyone?

Yea I'm questioning mimika's feelings for Yuzu. Does she actually like her or see her as a little sister. I know she liked her initially but lately she has repressed "those urges" so much that maybe she's grown out of love for Yuzu.

Wow, was really hoping for this not to go the cliche bullshit route, guess I overestimated Ejima.

I seriously hate this lame angst trope that all manga seemed to feel obligated to go through... I've seen it sooo many bloody times (in the more than a decade I've been reading manga), and it's never compelling- just frustrating!

Honestly, this is why "Kase-san" is so good, because it doesn't seem to have any obligation to adhere to hackneyed cliches that get in the way of interesting story telling. I almost have to wonder if the mangaka was being pressured by their editor to insert some kind of 'twist' into the plot? Ririha suddenly comes out of nowhere, with no clear motive, and is way more vindictive and cruel than any person her age should be capable of being.

One of the earlier commenters summed things up pretty well: The manga starts out with an extremely entertaining concept, then devolves into something that could be summed up on TVtropes.

As and addendum, after thinking about this... I think the what's going to irritate me the most is that once the period of perfunctory estrangement/longing ends, the story will 'resolve' things in such a way that the whole damned thing might as well never have happened... sigh. Which would be both a relief and a frustration, for reasons I frankly don't have the energy to get into at the moment.

Honestly, I might be better to blow this manga for about 6 months, then come back... once the whole ordeal has resolved itself and moved on. Right now, I'm still inclined to give Ejima more credit than the bastard making Citrus.

last edited at Sep 11, 2017 10:30AM

I seriously hate this lame angst trope that all manga seemed to feel obligated to go through... I've seen it sooo many bloody times (in the more than a decade I've been reading manga), and it's never compelling- just frustrating!

Honestly, this is why "Kase-san" is so good, because it doesn't seem to have any obligation to adhere to hackneyed cliches that get in the way of interesting story telling. I almost have to wonder if the mangaka was being pressured by their editor to insert some kind of 'twist' into the plot? Ririha suddenly comes out of nowhere, with no clear motive, and is way more vindictive and cruel than any person her age should be capable of being.

One of the earlier commenters summed things up pretty well: The manga starts out with an extremely entertaining concept, then devolves into something that could be summed up on TVtropes.

As and addendum, after thinking about this... I think the what's going to irritate me the most is that once the period of perfunctory estrangement/longing ends, the story will 'resolve' things in such a way that the whole damned thing might as well never have happened... sigh. Which would be both a relief and a frustration, for reasons I frankly don't have the energy to get into at the moment.

Honestly, I might be better to blow this manga for about 6 months, then come back... once the whole ordeal has resolved itself and moved on. Right now, I'm still inclined to give Ejima more credit than the bastard making Citrus.

The worst thing about these kind of tropes is that they almost never serve a narrative purpose beyond just extending the length of the story. It's almost never used to advance the character arc of either of the characters involved it's just padding until they clear up the misunderstanding and then proceed to act like this extremely presumptuous disregard for the other person's right to self-determinate never happened and doesn't need to be meaningfully addressed.

The worst thing about these kind of tropes is that they almost never serve a narrative purpose beyond just extending the length of the story. It's almost never used to advance the character arc of either of the characters involved it's just padding until they clear up the misunderstanding and then proceed to act like this extremely presumptuous disregard for the other person's right to self-determinate never happened and doesn't need to be meaningfully addressed.

Which is why i'm kinda hoping that this little conflict doesn't get resolved, entire chapters are going to be wasted on this, then at the very least make it a wild ride even if it means a bad ending

I think that Mimika loves Yuzumori without a doubt. She doesn't love her because Yuzu is little, she loves her because of Yuzu (hope that makes sense for you) - she said somewhere along her confession that she will love her even after she grows up, so you can deduct that now she'll be her friend until Yuzu makes a step herself or until Yuzu is more grown up.
Mimika knows very well that Yuzu is still a child and she also knows that Yuzu needs friends and other people to have "good childhood", what she doesn't know however, is that Yuzu most likely doesn't even want to be with anyone else but Mimika.
So don't worry pals. Mimika loves Yuzu as much as she did before ;) Even more maybe.

Wow, was really hoping for this not to go the cliche bullshit route, guess I overestimated Ejima.

I remember Nez once saying that what makes this manga special would end if there were ever a love confession, and I think she's being proved right.

i hate that there has to be some externally introduced conflict. i want to see their relationship progress and how they deal with each hurdle as it comes up. i dont wanna see "mimika broke a little girl's heart because she just took some stranger at her word"

Looking for clues that might give away Ririha’s reasons on why she acts the way she does, I focused on her comment “Nothing but idiots” (ch20). One of her friends says that 4th/5th grades boys are all idiots, and Ririha darkens at that, as if bearing a grudge against them. Besides, the fact that she attacks Yuzumori and tells her those words, referring to something very specific, makes me believe that she’s driven by a kind of resentment that can only be caused by a broken heart, or pride. Yuzumori is oblivious to what she’s talking about, so I assume that Ririha was in love with a boy, the boy probably didn’t find her pretty enough and had a crush for the prettiest of the class. Yuzumori probably wasn’t into him, but it was enough for Ririha to decide to work on her figure to the point that her face would appear on a fashion magazine (or maybe she was already a model, an affront that hurt her pride twice as much). When the chance to return the favor to Yuzumori presented itself, she couldn’t just let it get away.

But, it’s just a supposition.

i hate that there has to be some externally introduced conflict. i want to see their relationship progress and how they deal with each hurdle as it comes up. i dont wanna see "mimika broke a little girl's heart because she just took some stranger at her word"

I do not think thats the case at all. We learned in chap 22 that Yuzumori-san "left the group" over a year or so, and she just meet Mimika a months ago. Also, Isuzu said: "Mimika-san has nothing to do with it", probably refering about a fight that occour in the past.

Purr-bulence's supposition could be the case.

Oooh! Nice... Mimika is actually really feeling her decision! I feel like it's still going to be real interesting.