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Sayaka_ava
joined Nov 23, 2014

Ahh, well, nothing much to add that has not been said already above, but the way I feel now is pretty much the opposite of what the Sayaka in my avatar is expressing. And in her little gay heart, though broken it may be for the moment, I think Sayaka too is now free to move on. This chapter was wonderful, and we can only hope that the upcoming face-to-face with Touko and Yuu will be even better.

(hah, figures I would get the top of the page after using the word "above")

last edited at Feb 3, 2019 3:12AM

Image
joined Feb 23, 2016

Ooooohh shiet! Action!!! It’s finally nearing it’s end which is very sad...
Because most the shiet i read is almost done too
(´༎ຶོρ༎ຶོ`) cries tears of blood

last edited at Feb 3, 2019 3:40AM

Ed452a370d5d73ed7156feba5cbc6a02
joined Aug 9, 2011

About time!!

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

So, now, how are they going to solve the fact that Yuu thinks she got rejected?

Sayaka_ava
joined Nov 23, 2014

So, now, how are they going to solve the fact that Yuu thinks she got rejected?

Hopefully by using the unconventional storytelling mechanic of Touko giving it to her straight.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Your plan was perfect, Sayaka—but you forgot about the ducks.

One glimpse of nuzzling lesbian ducks, and the whole thing comes crashing down.

You gave it your best shot. You might have pulled it off, too, if it weren’t for those darned ducks.

Fad8970e-c901-4004-bae1-4e5d013b5424
joined Jan 19, 2019

You know something really frustrating in manga and media in general? Confessions. They’re a double edged sword; most times, they just need to happen to keep the plot going (in the best case scenario. In the worst, the confession has been the whole damn climax the story has been building since the beginning and as soon as it happens, the audiance doesn’t even feel the need to keep reading/watching). And confessions aren’t bad per nature, but because of the way the’ll be executed. When between two poeple who clearly like each other, there will be a misunderstanding, wrong words will be used, and individuals perfectly capable of forming sentences will suddenly forget how to use their tonges, and when between Main Character and Best friend-who-has-been-in-love-them-since-the-beginning, there’ll be tears, some heated forced kiss and them something like “I was by your side FIRST! How can you love somenone else! How dare you have your own preferences and feelings!”. Sad, but it’s the way things usually go.

But this is Yagate Kimi Ni Naru, this is Nakatani Nio-sensei, and even when these kinds of cliches appear, they’ve dealed with such care and respect for the characters that you ask yourself why the cliche was unlikable in the first place. Koito-san running away, just like Nanami-san being too scared/confused to reach out for her, are action that do not break the characters nature. It was all in there: Nanami-san’s disturbed/unidimensional views of love, and Koito-san’s lingering fear that as soon as she admitted her feelings, the girl she loves would instantly love interest in her. It all makes sense, because the knows them, and as much as both reactions were to be expected, they’re neither boring nor forceful.

The same thing goes for the new chapter. And I’m sorry, Saeki-san/Nanami-san fans, but if there’s something that would be out-of-character is the idea that Nanami-san could reciprocate Saeki-san’s feelings. Nothing on any previous action of hers lead us to believe that she felt anything beyond friendship. This isn’t the kind of Yuri where fall in and out of love with other girls that easily (not saying that they’re bad. Simply unrealistic). Nanami-san loves Saeki-san, for certain, but not like this, it doesn’t how we hope that she could. Like the manga itself says “I feel like a I could be with Sayaka (okay, depends on the translation, but the meaning is basically the same)”... “But”, and this “but” is the very essence of one of the most irrational (and wonderful) things about love: you can’t chose when and with whom it happens. Nanami-san loves Saeki-san, and clearly wouldn’t be opposed to date her (and maybe fall in love with her afterwards) but it’s not that simple, because Koito-san exists.

And even so, the rejection isn’t overly dramatic nor frustrating on some soap-opera level. It’s sad, that was inevitable, but happens between two girls who have known each other for a long time and that are ready to talk about their thoughts face-to-face. The confrontation doesn’t last long (two chapters? Neat.), because it doesn’t need to. Nakatani Nio-sensei handled both of the main confessions in her story with mastery, and considering how Yagate Kimi Ni Naru’s great storytelling made the fandom kinda greedy over time (Mea culpa Mea culpa), I’d say it did not disappoint.

411f6b78af5b5e2958ec5ce7bbc68a45
joined Jul 11, 2018

Ooooohh shiet! Action!!! It’s finally nearing it’s end which is very sad...
Because most the shiet i read is almost done too
(´༎ຶོρ༎ຶོ`) cries tears of blood

Same for me, i am happy and sad at the same time !!

445
joined Jan 9, 2019

Another great chapter. Finally Sayaka can move on. She's like the catalyst for Touko's realization of what love is. Touko can finally feel happy to be loved and hurts so bad to reject someone she's close to.
Happy and sad at the same time.
Hope there's happy ending for Sayaka

joined Mar 15, 2015

I enjoyed this chapter, particularly Touko coming to realize that loving someone can still allow them to change, Sayaka being able to move on from her love for Touko, and Touko taking the first steps to reach out to Yuu again. Of course, the latter will also probably require some thought and character development on Yuu's end, since she still has a somewhat romanticized view of love (her belief that she didn't cry after Touko's "rejection" like Akari did after she realized her senpai would never reciprocate her feelings means that she may not have loved Touko).

While it was unfair of Touko to assume that Sayaka's feelings were as shallow as all her other suitors, Sayaka did admit that she'd been in love with Touko's "perfect" persona at first. As such, it's good that the discussion on the boat helps Touko realize that Sayaka knew about her vulnerability and imperfection but loved her anyway.

All in all, it's good that Sayaka's love for Touko was taken seriously and her (inevitable) rejection ended up helping move the plot forward, rather than being a way to tie up loose ends.

By the way, Special 6 should be moved to "Volum" 7(add an "e"), between Chapter 36 and Chapter 37. Otherwise, new readers will probably get confused when it references s a scene that hasn't happened yet.

4bbe1078a9d82bf519de9e5fc56dee60
joined Feb 18, 2018

Sayaka dodged a bullet here folks, and Yuu will get to deal with Touko's BS from now on lol All is well! Unfortunately the SayakaxTouko kiss scene I was hoping for will never happen, that's the only negative.

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joined Oct 7, 2017

Sayaka is too much of a gay cinnamon bun :c. I just want all of my little gaybies to be happy..

joined Jul 26, 2016

Sayaka is too much of a gay cinnamon bun :c. I just want all of my little gaybies to be happy..

TBF in any triangular setup like this about the only way somebody isn't getting burned is going full Is My Hobby Weird polyamory which would generally be rather stretching the limits of plausibility. An amiable closure like this is about the best realistic outcome for the unfortunate party.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Sayaka is too much of a gay cinnamon bun :c. I just want all of my little gaybies to be happy..

TBF in any triangular setup like this about the only way somebody isn't getting burned is going full Is My Hobby Weird polyamory which would generally be rather stretching the limits of plausibility. An amiable closure like this is about the best realistic outcome for the unfortunate party.

Which leads to a rather bizarre authorial dilemma for serial romance narratives—the more fully and effectively the characters are developed, the more fan anguish when one leg of the triangle inevitably gets the short end of the stick. Safer to make the tritagonist an evil manipulator or otherwise flawed or unsympathetic lest readers contract Second-Lead Syndrome and turn hostile to the story in progress.

This was a major problem with the structure of What Does the Fox Say? where a significant chunk of the readership fell in love with the third wheel when the character was given an interesting but overdeveloped backstory compared to the lead.

Sayaka’s great—she’s just not the one, and never has been.

joined Nov 5, 2017

Sayaka’s great—she’s just not the one, and never has been.

This. I tried to imagine how a relationship between Touko and Sayaka would look like (before and after Touko changed and felt ready to accept love) but something feels off.
Before Touko changed, Sayaka would only spoil her which has been shown to be terrible for Touko. Saying "yes" to everything she asks for would have ended in Touko having a huge breakdown eventually.

I guess after Touko changed, Sayaka spoiling her isn't bad. But both are big dorks, so it would be a pretty clingy and lovey dovey relationship lol

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Sayaka’s great—she’s just not the one, and never has been.

This. I tried to imagine how a relationship between Touko and Sayaka would look like (before and after Touko changed and felt ready to accept love) but something feels off.
Before Touko changed, Sayaka would only spoil her which has been shown to be terrible for Touko. Saying "yes" to everything she asks for would have ended in Touko having a huge breakdown eventually.

I think it may be as simple as the fact that they’re basically similar—Sayaka was first attracted to Touko because she embodied what Sayaka aspired to be (and nearly was). That’s often perfectly fine in friendships, but not always so great for intimate relationships, where it can work better when each person has different qualities that complement rather than mirror those of the other person.

It’s true that Sayaka didn’t step up to help Touko by confronting her about her self-limiting self image, but Touko never let her in far enough to get a real sense of how damaging that attitude threatened to be. So it was really quite understandable that Sayaka was content to stick with the status quo. I’m pretty confident that if the two of them had been in a relationship and Sayaka saw that Touko was in real psychological trouble, she would have been willing to do whatever it took to help her.

But all that speculation is completely circular, because only Yuu was allowed to be close enough to see that it wasn’t just that Touko had a vulnerable side that she kept hidden (which Sayaka did know), but that she was locked into a negative pattern where she thought she was undeserving of love (which only Yuu knew).

last edited at Feb 3, 2019 3:12PM

Itwouldbe-yuriscans
joined Oct 30, 2018

Your plan was perfect, Sayaka—but you forgot about the ducks.

One glimpse of nuzzling lesbian ducks, and the whole thing comes crashing down.

You gave it your best shot. You might have pulled it off, too, if it weren’t for those darned ducks.

I imagine it now, instead of angels coming down from heaven when you realize you're gay, you get ducks instead
ducks are now the new heralds of gay

45146235_746277355746718_170304489897590784_n
joined Dec 19, 2016

Aww poor Sayaka. She tried her best.
And here I was rooting for her since early chapters :(

Wooper
joined Oct 25, 2015

Well done.

I'm glad we were able to see Touko admit she was in love out loud. I feel like it was left hanging to this point.

Fad8970e-c901-4004-bae1-4e5d013b5424
joined Jan 19, 2019

Sayaka dodged a bullet here folks, and Yuu will get to deal with Touko's BS from now on lol All is well! Unfortunately the SayakaxTouko kiss scene I was hoping for will never happen, that's the only negative.

Well, I do hope they fill the expected (yet still frustrating to some for some reason) lack of Saeki-san/Nanami-san kisses with a whole deal lot of Koito-san/Nanami-san kisses! We already knew that they loved each other, now they also know, so all that is left to do is hope that Nanami-san does not. Screw. Up.

I imagine it now, instead of angels coming down from heaven when you realize you're gay, you get ducks instead
ducks are now the new heralds of gay

I really se a lot of potential in this, but we gotta start referencing it now on as much memes as we can, otherwise the other fandoms won’t get it, or worse, they’ll try to steal it.

Ducks are official Lesbian Spirit Animals and no one is gonna take that from us.

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joined Jul 26, 2016

Ducks are official Lesbian Spirit Animals and no one is gonna take that from us.

They're also a bunch of nasty little gang-rapists. Just sayin'.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I imagine it now, instead of angels coming down from heaven when you realize you're gay, you get ducks instead
ducks are now the new heralds of gay

I think the affectionate ducks are more the reminders of that classic Armor-Piercing Question posed by Sugi to Akko in Morinaga Milk’s Girl Friends: when your emotions get all tangled up and you really want to figure out exactly how you feel about that extra-special friend, ask yourself:

“Is this someone I can imagine ‘doing it’ with?”

Love can take many forms, but when it comes to billing and cooing together, Touko only has eyes for her little kouhai duckling.

Sin%20t%c3%adtulo-min
joined Sep 28, 2011

#GIVESAYAKAAGIRLFRIEND2019

MAH GIRL DESERVES ALL THE HAPPINESS IN THE WORLD

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Ava
joined Dec 7, 2018

Oh... I am sad this is ending... its all bittersweet!
I cant wait to see the end...
I am sad for Sayaka, but Touko drug is Yuu, she is totally adicted to her... look at the eyes!
And I agree with Blastaar, in the end, its about if you like the other one as a couple

E4f2e417faf2a5b3cd19ad88cda3219e
joined Nov 21, 2017

Yeah... I still don't like Touko. Let them all figure out they're gay and date other people outside of this triangle. I don't want Touko and Yuu to end up together because of how unhealthy their relationship is but that's my opinion.

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