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joined Oct 22, 2018

(I feel bad for taking the meme-like way to comment on this chapter, but):

Izumi's entire love life thus far has been one giant oof.

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joined Jan 11, 2019

Iroha looks like SF-A2 Miki

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joined Dec 9, 2014

BTW, is it me or did the middle school friend looked more shocked than disgusted when Izumi said that? Like maybe she felt the same way Izumi did and was so shocked when she suggested dating out of nowhere, that her only reaction was that one, i mean she did kept rejecting every guy that confessed to her. Maybe she drifted away from her because she thought Izumi would never feel the same as her. Maybe this is just me pulling my yuri goggles out of my ass

I don't think it's yuri goggles, there definitely were hints the other girl could be gay too.

Hana
joined Jun 20, 2014

Izumi finally broke and then probably becomes a yandere. xD

joined Jan 3, 2020

Poor Izumi, so used to lying and to hiding and here is she telling the thing on Nanaki's face. Don't think she will get it, I hope that friend of her was just shocked not afraid, I want Izumi to be happy.

I think Nanaki could help Izumi overcome her internalized homophobia, by reacting normal to the confession. Just like how she didn't hesitate dumping her own gyaru group for Kurokawa when they were making fun of her.

I don't know; I still feel like this would be a shit outcome for her. She gets the reality of homosexual relationships in schools: the pool of potential partners is shallow as fuck and entirely in hiding usually, so she crushes on straight girls and never has any happiness from relationships until college or even later.

Meanwhile, neither Kurokawa or Nanaki was a lesbian before this. They were just previously straight girls who magically happened to fall in love (well there's signs at least that Nanaki was unhappy with boyfriends, but that have to mean anything specific). This is something pretty rare to happen in reality.

Izumi is getting a bit of a raw deal purely for being a side character. Then again, maybe the series will account for this and manifest a girlfriend for her.

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joined Jan 17, 2019

Bruh, I ship Nanaki with Izumi ,wtf is wrong with me

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Meanwhile, neither Kurokawa or Nanaki was a lesbian before this. They were just previously straight girls who magically happened to fall in love (well there's signs at least that Nanaki was unhappy with boyfriend's, but that have to mean anything specific). This is something pretty rare to happen in reality.

If they weren't lesbians before, they're not now either. Sexuality is not always one or the other. There's also a spectrum, and I assume neither of them are 100% gay because Nanaki seemed to be at least a bit into her bfs, and Kurokawa is into yaoi (maybe not everyone considers this to count).

Izumi getting rejected or even ridiculed for that doesn't align with the story imo. I don't think the story is supposed to be that heavy, so if she doesn't find a gf, I think she will at least make amends with them.

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joined Oct 22, 2018

2- No, liking yaoi doesn't mean you are in to boys, I'm pretty sure there is a lot of girls here who are straight and like Yuri.

Not to mention the fact that I remember people in several forums here on Dynasty Reader mentioning some lesbians that like yaoi.

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joined Feb 23, 2016

Well fuck... i want more..(´༎ຶོρ༎ຶོ`)

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joined Jun 25, 2019

This is something pretty rare to happen in reality.

Good thing it's a manga hey.

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joined Nov 3, 2019

Dayemmmm poor Izumi! I hope Nanaki turns her down properly, so that Izumi can get her closure and move on to another girl who will love her back just as strongly.

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joined Mar 21, 2019

Bruh, I ship Nanaki with Izumi ,wtf is wrong with me

same here, I just want izumi happiness :(((

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1- Nanaki had lots of boyfriends, but this doesn't mean that she like boys too, for what I understand of the story it doesn't look like she liked then very much, it was always short relationships and probably just something to increase her popularity and show her "rivals" how better she was, because she was super cute and had a boyfriend.

2- No, liking yaoi doesn't mean you are in to boys, I'm pretty sure there is a lot of girls here who are straight and like Yuri.

The women I've seen who read Yuri, the vast majority are not straight.
I mean the ones who regularly read yuri. There might be the ones who read everything romance, so they treat yuri as another romance story too. But they're not the main audience and they won't get as invested.

Kurokawa's room was full of pretty boy posters and yaoi. Not sure if a lesbian would care so much about boys to have posters of them all over her room.

Also Nanaki seemed at least a bit invested in her relationship with that douche in the beginning. A lesbian would struggle on dating a guy, but she didn't seem to at all. Not liking them very much is different than not liking them at all. Besides, even straight people are in relationships that don't like their partner very much.

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joined Jun 25, 2019

Tend to forget that most of yuris didn't outright said that the 2 mains girls aren't lesbians but more that they're in love with each other and it happen that they're both girls.

Kurokawa's room was full of pretty boy posters and yaoi. Not sure if a lesbian would care so much about boys to have posters of them all over her room.

Bruh. I don't think lesbians have their rooms fill with pretty girls poster thought. My room was filled with soccer team player, does that mean i'm gay or that i just like soccer ? Kurokawa being into yaoi doesn't mean she can't be lesbian. Hell, they can be both bi for that matter, it's not because they were into boys before that they can't be into girls now.

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Bruh. I don't think lesbians have their rooms fill with pretty girls poster thought. My room was filled with soccer team player, does that mean i'm gay or that i just like soccer ? Kurokawa being into yaoi doesn't mean she can't be lesbian. Hell, they can be both bi for that matter, it's not because they were into boys before that they can't be into girls now.

I mean, comparing soccer posters with handsome men is not the same. Handsome men is connected with sexuality, soccer is just a hobby.

And I never said they're not into girls. I'm precisely saying that they can be into girls too without being a lesbian. Because I was replying to a poster saying they they're now lesbians, to say they don't have to be lesbians to like each other, so it's not unrealistic.

We don't have an actual proof of their sexuality, so everyone can interpret it differently.
A similar situation imo is Yuma from NTR. Like Nanaki, she had a bf and cared about him as a friend. But we could see she was struggling on the intimate parts and with being in love with him.
Nanaki on the other hand liked being with her bf, whether that was for vanity reasons or not.
She could be vain and want to be with a guy only to show off, but I think there would still be signs of struggling in there, if she was gay.
Anyway, jmo and I don't think that part matters here now.

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joined May 28, 2018

I mean, comparing soccer posters with handsome men is not the same.

Heh, my school friend, from long-long time ago, have posters of soccer players all over her walls because they were hot guys.
And I think that personal and real experience do matter, but it’s not universal. Just let this story say what it want to.

Anyway, chapter was good and sad. I liked Izumi from the get go and I was thrilled to see her on the covers and in color.

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BTW, is it me or did the middle school friend looked more shocked than disgusted when Izumi said that?

I don't think it's yuri goggles, there definitely were hints the other girl could be gay too.

I'm leaning towards this, too. Izumi's friend's face is on the reverse shot in the same page, and she has almost the same exact expression as Izumi. I'm reading that as both Izumi and her friend being afraid of confronting their attraction to each other, and thus both panicking to back away from it at the same time.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

One thing that links into the poster issue is that both of the protagonists start the story dedicated to projecting what they think of being a “suitable” self—Nanaki as The Incredible Hulk of Cuteness, Kurokawa as the outsider otaku nobody.

One of the major themes of the story (in the beginning, anyway) is about personal style—including room decor—being about the way the girls want to be perceived rather than who they really are (the truth about which the rest of the story seems to be devoted to discovering).

(I must say that a problem I’ve personally had with the story all along is that I think the at-start Kurokawa and her style is completely adorable, and although her makeovers render her more conventionally “attractive,” the changes seem like a net cuteness loss to me. )

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Nanaki as The Incredible Hulk of Cuteness

That's a title I never thought anyone would use for referring to someone cute but now I'm stuck with a Kawaii Hulk image in my head and I blame you for that

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I think, this is the most interesting chapter of all. At last.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Nanaki as The Incredible Hulk of Cuteness

That's a title I never thought anyone would use for referring to someone cute but now I'm stuck with a Kawaii Hulk image in my head and I blame you for that

Responsibility accepted.

(Nanaki is the cutest one there is! RAWR!)

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joined Jan 17, 2017

Hmm, hope we get to see a resolution between Izumi and her friend thus leaving an open path for Nanaki and Kuro

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joined Oct 25, 2015

Great chapter (as much as I want to see more of the the main pairing).

I've like this story from chapter one, and it just keeps making a stronger impression.

This is a good one.

joined Jun 12, 2019

Well that was good pretty sad

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joined Jan 11, 2020

Just catch up with the series.

Izumi and Kurokawa seems like yandere tropes,
with their dead eyes.


It's a bit creepy

Well at least the series start to set that the girls are gay.

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