Any chance of sharing what you like about it with the rest of us?

The story, the art and the characters.

Any chance of sharing what you like about it with the rest of us?

The story, the art and the characters.

OK, then.

Oof... one of the biggest problems (aside from everything else) is that the chapters are too short, and every one of them has to end on a cliffhanger. So each chapter is just the plot spazzing out for a bit and then suddenly lurching forward to the next big scandalizing event.
Though, it's actually hard for me to hate any of the characters in this manga because they're just too ridiculous now for me to get emotionally invested in them. If only there weren't the emotionally abusive aspect, it might fall into the "so bad it's funny" camp. Though I do find myself chuckling while reading every new release, so... maybe that counts for something?

Bottom right panel basically sums up their relationship, and this entire work. Also, this would have peeved me out in the beginning, but these days I just go "PUNCH HER HARDER". It is kind of amazing the levels to which Maki being a complete doormat infuriates me, it sucked out any sympathy I might have had for the girl.

Not that Liz is any better, in terms of being a likeable character. I actually enjoy violent sociopaths and tsunderes as characters, but she just makes no sense. She is a violent piece of garbage for no reason whatsoever. The girl is seriously unhinged, but in a way that smells of "the author decided it shall be so and you have to take it on faith rather than having a plausible in-story explanation of her character".

I do not think I ever saw a series taking this steep of a nosedive before. Certainly, there have been plenty of other stories that started out strong, and then kind of lost their way after a while ("My Unrequited Love" comes to mind in recent times, "Aoi Hana" amongst the classics). But that things turn from promising to utter garbage, plus that it happens this fast, I honestly can not remember the last time I saw something like it. The writing on this is atrocious.

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I do not think I ever saw a series taking this steep of a nosedive before. Certainly, there have been plenty of other stories that started out strong, and then kind of lost their way after a while ("My Unrequited Love" comes to mind in recent times, "Aoi Hana" amongst the classics). But that things turn from promising to utter garbage, plus that it happens this fast, I honestly can not remember the last time I saw something like it. The writing on this is atrocious.

I think that’s what distinguishes the complaints about this one from series where people just drop into the comments to bash something they don’t like—this story started out being, if not highly unusual or original, pretty solidly good.

It set up Maki as a basically likable, naive character with plenty of room for growth and self-exploration, with Liz as her mysterious, knowing, sexy foil who would spark those changes in Maki.

When the story actually started revealing what lay beneath Liz’s aloof facade, however, it quickly became “What The Fucking Fuck?”

Liz suddenly seemed to regress in age about 5 years, and her “sexy edge” turned into narcissism and psychopathy. Her dark, secret, life-changing, psyche-twisting trauma turned out to be that old cliche of “dumped at graduation” (I swear I’ve seen a yuri 4-koma where that particular tragedy was cured by friends getting together for ice-cream sundaes).

Maki, meanwhile, never the sharpest instrument in the toolbox, seems to have shed 50-100 points of IQ, and become someone who puts up with physical and psychological abuse not because she’s into it but because she’s too bovinely stupid to be aware of what’s happening.

I can take or leave D/S as thematic material, but now I sort of want a series like this one seems to think it is, with the naive sweetie protagonist discovering her need for kink, and helping the damaged femme fatale to channel her real trauma into a healthy, mutually supportive kink relationship.

I think I may be getting something not unlike that in Yuki and the Authoress, which is light-years better-written than this one.

Liz suddenly seemed to regress in age about 5 years, and her “sexy edge” turned into narcissism and psychopathy. Her dark, secret, life-changing, psyche-twisting trauma turned out to be that old cliche of “dumped at graduation” (I swear I’ve seen a yuri 4-koma where that particular tragedy was cured by friends getting together for ice-cream sundaes).

Maki, meanwhile, never the sharpest instrument in the toolbox, seems to have shed 50-100 points of IQ, and become someone who puts up with physical and psychological abuse not because she’s into it but because she’s too bovinely stupid to be aware of what’s happening.

You nailed it, this is what destroys it for me. Characters make no sense. Liz is unhinged for no reason. Maki does everything she can for Liz, bends over backwards to accommodate the latter's whims, and is rewarded by being treated as garbage. And she never gives this so much as a stray thought, just merrily ploughing on instead.

I do not think I ever saw a series taking this steep of a nosedive before. Certainly, there have been plenty of other stories that started out strong, and then kind of lost their way after a while ("My Unrequited Love" comes to mind in recent times, "Aoi Hana" amongst the classics). But that things turn from promising to utter garbage, plus that it happens this fast, I honestly can not remember the last time I saw something like it. The writing on this is atrocious.

I think that’s what distinguishes the complaints about this one from series where people just drop into the comments to bash something they don’t like—this story started out being, if not highly unusual or original, pretty solidly good.

It set up Maki as a basically likable, naive character with plenty of room for growth and self-exploration, with Liz as her mysterious, knowing, sexy foil who would spark those changes in Maki.

When the story actually started revealing what lay beneath Liz’s aloof facade, however, it quickly became “What The Fucking Fuck?”

Liz suddenly seemed to regress in age about 5 years, and her “sexy edge” turned into narcissism and psychopathy. Her dark, secret, life-changing, psyche-twisting trauma turned out to be that old cliche of “dumped at graduation” (I swear I’ve seen a yuri 4-koma where that particular tragedy was cured by friends getting together for ice-cream sundaes).

Maki, meanwhile, never the sharpest instrument in the toolbox, seems to have shed 50-100 points of IQ, and become someone who puts up with physical and psychological abuse not because she’s into it but because she’s too bovinely stupid to be aware of what’s happening.

I can take or leave D/S as thematic material, but now I sort of want a series like this one seems to think it is, with the naive sweetie protagonist discovering her need for kink, and helping the damaged femme fatale to channel her real trauma into a healthy, mutually supportive kink relationship.

I think I may be getting something not unlike that in Yuki and the Authoress, which is light-years better-written than this one.

Yeah the setup is so great at first
Maki meeting Liz randomly at night, her writing a cryptic way to get in touch with her on Maki's hand. Maki going to the place where Liz instructed her to, finding out that Liz is the lead singer of a sick ass band. etc
Like that setup was so well done, and it honestly bums me out a bit that this is what has become of it.

I guess I'm the only one here who likes this manga, then?

Oh well... so be it...

While it's far from being one of my favorites, I do like it well enough. The amount of negativity here really was a surprise for me.

Yay, there's at least two of us!

Any chance of sharing what you like about it with the rest of us, many of whom once had high hopes for it but have been disappointed with its development?

For me I like it because it seems to be about people who are heavily flawed. Its boring to read about people where the only thing wrong with them is that they are shy or something simple. Yuri is filled to the brim with pure and innocent girls why not show off the bad apples as well.

I guess I'm the only one here who likes this manga, then?

Oh well... so be it...

While it's far from being one of my favorites, I do like it well enough. The amount of negativity here really was a surprise for me.

Yay, there's at least two of us!

Any chance of sharing what you like about it with the rest of us, many of whom once had high hopes for it but have been disappointed with its development?

For me I like it because it seems to be about people who are heavily flawed. Its boring to read about people where the only thing wrong with them is that they are shy or something simple. Yuri is filled to the brim with pure and innocent girls why not show off the bad apples as well.

For me it's not that the characters here are flawed but that their treatment by the author is a muddle. They are made to act in ways that smell of either editorial interference (eg. "please put something shocking in every chapter that will grip readers") or some problem in the author's attitude, something that interferes with the characters and won't let them go in their natural directions so that instead of composing a story she just lines up plot devices one after another. Something like My Unrequited Love but worse because the unusual setting amplifies the problems of the story.

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If only there weren't the emotionally abusive aspect, it might fall into the "so bad it's funny" camp.

Depending on how the next few chapters shake out, this version of the story can still turn out to be true

Kitta Izumi is translating Liberty to english.

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Looking forward, I bet translation will totally go to rock.

Kitta Izumi is translating Liberty to english.

I wanna marry her

I think I found out what to hook on after YagaKimi
For unknown reason I just love this so much, like characters, arts, plots etc etc are just on point

and now the senpai...

What do we learn?
Wanna go far? Sell your soul.
Little by little until you no longer recognise yourself.

Someone tell me why this updates once every year. I think it might be faster to learn Japanese and then find the raws haha

RuneHex posted:

Someone tell me why this updates once every year. I think it might be faster to learn Japanese and then find the raws haha

It wouldn't. It's published in Galette, which is released 4 times a year. Right now there are 11 volumes of Galette and new chapter of Liberty was in every one of them except for 1, so it's currently up to date. Next time do your research before complaining. Not to mention you're reading it for free in the first place.

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that "just for work" killed me xD

I sense really bad stuff.

I don't think the slave contract bit was necessary. It's not needed and I think it doesn't help Liz's character at all. Doesn't make sense to me at all. They could have stopped at Liz slapping Maki. It's enough as a sort of marker about what kind of flawed albeit redeemable character she is (I assume, ultimately it's the case, as the story progresses).

Oh ok, so shes just a b*tch

How unprofessional

waiting for more.........

If I pour salt on this, will it shrivel?