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Cornonthekopp
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joined Jul 6, 2020

alright everyone place your bets now. Is this new character and new arc gonna give us box cutters or sunflowers?

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Adorable extras. ^_^

And a new old story is about to start...

Dc4181ab-be73-4839-b684-7476d3ac05f5
joined Oct 24, 2018

the cake parfait page is so cute lol it cured my boxcutter trauma

Pov_youre_a_triple_mugger
joined Feb 19, 2016

alright everyone place your bets now. Is this new character and new arc gonna give us box cutters or sunflowers?

I wonder how long it's been since our new senpai wrote that original letter. It was there when Yamabe was in High School, and I can't recall if it was mentioned how long it's been since she graduated. Could our assistant librarian have been waiting since middle school for an acknowledgement? Would she even remember if it's been that long?

Beatorokken
joined Feb 23, 2014

alright everyone place your bets now. Is this new character and new arc gonna give us box cutters or sunflowers?

I'm all in on box cutters baby!
We will alternate between toxic and pure.

joined Aug 21, 2017

alright everyone place your bets now. Is this new character and new arc gonna give us box cutters or sunflowers?

"box cutters or sunflowers" is great phrasing, I will be stealing it, thanks.

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Satsuaki
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joined Oct 9, 2021

You can tell Igarashi's fond of the boxcutter lovers. And Seika + Etsurou. I don't think they're going away, so hopefully you remember or reread the start of the Dominant crossover.

As always I organized these in a superficial order where it felt the themes flowed. Some are missing context, for example Sayori and Mizuki being blinded by the purity of Mia x Yamabe when their arc concluded. But by placing that after the Dominant cast were smited by Yamabe (which was part of a mini April Fools crossover) I think it preserved the meaning? Basically I'm trying to be fancily nonchalant instead of inserting TL notes everywhere.

Yes Lucille is a Walking Dead reference.

Lemuen_ga_head_small
joined Aug 28, 2018

"Here's a couple of silly doodles :D"
next page:
* The scariest picture I've ever seen *

Enanano
joined Oct 16, 2020

Lol at the page where sayori is pinching mizuki's cheek

Dc4181ab-be73-4839-b684-7476d3ac05f5
joined Oct 24, 2018

Yamabe is so bright that they're using her to exterminate evil forces

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Ah, yes, the perfect senpais~ :D

D05536d6-01d1-4527-9102-4cc772fad5ed
joined Jul 6, 2020

I adore Igarashi Jun's doodles and am always impressed with her pencil work on it all. I have at times halfheartedly tried to get into drawing but only ever digital.

joined Oct 15, 2019

So cool. We need more doodles of the yamabe pair!

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Satsuaki
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joined Oct 9, 2021

This chapter may need extra tags so tell me. Bullying sounds appropriate at least.

Aoyama's an odd character. She's desperate to talk to Kasumi about the letter, yet doesn't seem too happy to have it back. Of course we know in fuller context she never wanted to write the letter. Indeed she probably didn't want to find anyone using it, which is why 16.1 pointed out how direct its offer was and how it set itself up for failure. But after 3+ years of waiting the thought must have weighed on her.

I think we can establish straightaway she never intercepted any letters left in Hanamonogatari. She both doesn't know anything about Kasumi and acts embarrassed at the thought of eavesdropping on a letter, in contrast to her disrespectful punkish nature. And her tearing up the letter at the end makes you wonder what she was so desperate for in the first place. I have no doubt she would have always torn up the letter even if this meeting had gone better.

Frankly I don't think Aoyama knew what she wanted. She doesn't come across as calculated as Sayori, for example, but a more reactionary and volatile individual. And she's had years of emptiness, bitterness, and resentment to color her. But I don't think her desperation on the first page adds up with her wanting to ruin Kasumi's day either. She overreacted to 3 things:

1st, being told "Sorry." Kasumi was right—returning the letter only re-opened old wounds of being rejected twice. 2nd, I think she was honestly jealous of Kasumi being in a happy relationship with Haruyo. But she kept it down and indulged her kouhai at first. The 3rd straw was the juvenile/sanitized way Kasumi described her relationship. Aoyama suffered in part because perhaps her S relationship was a lot more physical than she could handle. And she convinced herself, if mine didn't work out there's no way yours will.

Aoyama was surprised at how poorly Kasumi took it, but that's not in her defense. There's no reasonable expectation Kasumi wouldn't be hurt here. And it was one of the more uncomfortable chapters I've translated in any series. We all know how fragile Kasumi is. Yet you can see how excited she was at a chance to actually talk about her girlfriend to someone both private and in-the-know. But she's still too reserved to talk about the emotional depth of what she has with Haruyo, how it's quickly grown beyond the structure of Class S, and how some very physical feelings are developing.

It's a horrible miscommunication that immediately puts Aoyama in the worst light. While the boxcutter senpais kept their evilry to themselves (Sayori tactfully sparing Kasumi any damage from their meeting as she guided her reconciliation with Haruyo) this is Kasumi's first exposure in a long while to the darkness of the world.

最初のネームでは階段落ちの時顔から突っ込ませていたが、危なくてさすがに青山も心配するからしりもちくらいにしよって担当さんに言われて今の形になった。という裏話。

In the original draft, Kasumi was going to fall headfirst down the stairs. Igarashi's editor told her it was too much and Aoyama would show more concern, so they changed it to Kasumi falling on her butt. She still bumped her head though.

Doesn't really help Igarashi's case but as an author, pain's what sweetens relief. Or in other words, in the chemistry of writing, every action requires an equal and opposite reaction. Igarashi's confronting Kasumi with the supposition lots of readers might have had, diminishing her relationship with Haruyo because it's "only class S, not real romance." In a sense Igarashi is inviting the conversation of Class S vs yuri here.

I'm very interested where this arc takes us. It's so fundamentally different from the last two, directly involving Kasumi in the drama and the relationship being long buried. Is there even a chance to rekindle it? Would Aoyama want to? The focus is instead on Kasumi. As I suggested above I'm sure this will lead to a deeper bond with Haruyo. Their relationship trajectory has been so stable and positive, with Haruyo frequently thinking about the future, that Aoyama's warning is meaningless. But that doesn't mean Kasumi isn't badly hurt by it.

I really like the subtleties here too. Kasumi only didn't bring Haruyo because she didn't want to keep Aoyama waiting. She still had what Haruyo said on the mind, how lonely and desperate the letter sender must feel. It's tragic she only hurts herself further with how considerate she is (again something she fails to appraise herself for).

And it's impressive how awkwardness and uncertainty underlines their meeting without being too overt. You probably immediately felt it was a mistake not to get Haruyo—it leaves Kasumi vulnerable. Aoyama takes her to a secluded location, similar to Sayori who was much more intimidating at first. It's on-the-edge of breaking the rules yet not quite, maybe a meta metaphor at play. Between Aoyama's glare (which is an uncharacteristically dark panel in a spree of light pages) and the goofy scene of her being embarrassed over the letter your expectations are in flux. And Kasumi's sweetness blinds you before Aoyama drops the other shoe.

I was pretty conflicted on "That really is some kiddy shit!" It is the 2nd time I've swore in this translation. A more literal TL would be, "You're like a couple of kids playing house!" But Aoyama's language is messy in general (she's a -ssu type) and the abrupt tonal shift demanded something heavy.

Oh and of course there's another letter. We're going all the way back to 1916 with this one.

Flashbacks to a certain Gundam Wing scene.

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joined Jun 13, 2023

Oh and of course there's another letter. We're going all the way back to 1916 with this one.

Flash forward another 50 chapters and Kasumi is performing 12 different sceances to everyone who left a letter in those books

joined Jan 14, 2020

Doesn't really help Igarashi's case but as an author, pain's what sweetens relief. Or in other words, in the chemistry of writing, every action requires an equal and opposite reaction. Igarashi's confronting Kasumi with the supposition lots of readers might have had, diminishing her relationship with Haruyo because it's "only class S, not real romance." In a sense Igarashi is inviting the conversation of Class S vs yuri here.

were some of those 'Igarashi' supposed to be 'Aoyama'?

Onee2
joined Apr 28, 2022

Yikes I thought this girl was gonna be okay but she turned out to be a giant creep just because she fell in love and got dumped for "playing S"

"She didn't have to freak out"

Girl basically was assaulting her and looked like she was going to sexually assault her if she didn't run away yet she shouldn't freak out? I would be cool if we never saw this creep again. Don't take out your feelings of a broken relationship on someone else. our girl is so sweet and the contrast of how gross this chick was, was big yikes.

Hj
joined May 3, 2020

Yikes I thought this girl was gonna be okay but she turned out to be a giant creep just because she fell in love and got dumped for "playing S"

"She didn't have to freak out"

Girl basically was assaulting her and looked like she was going to sexually assault her if she didn't run away yet she shouldn't freak out? I would be cool if we never saw this creep again. Don't take out your feelings of a broken relationship on someone else. our girl is so sweet and the contrast of how gross this chick was, was big yikes.

Gonna second all of this. This girl is a total psycho

Old%20man%20prof
joined Oct 25, 2022

Oof, looks like we're in for another dark arc. I'm worried about what's in store next; the way Aoyama acted in this chapter immediately came off to me as someone who had been a victim of past sexual abuse (though just to be clear, that by no means excuses her actions here). Yurika's smile at the end feels so sinister.

And poor Kasumi. She was so excited to talk about her girlfriend, only to be made fun of and attacked. She was already shown to be ashamed of her more physical feelings, and I can only imagine this will further exacerbate that. I hope she's able to talk about what happened with Haruyo and is able to find some comfort again, though I sadly suspect she'll end up just bottling it up inside.

last edited at Apr 16, 2026 11:42AM

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joined Jan 3, 2026

Oof, looks like we're in for another dark arc. I'm worried about what's in store next; the way Aoyama acted in this chapter immediately came off to me as someone who had been a victim of past sexual abuse (though just to be clear, that by no means excuses her actions here). Yurika's smile at the end feels so sinister.

It’s disturbing backstory time

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joined Jan 3, 2026

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/dear_flowers_that_bloom_in_days_of_yore_ch16_2#13
Just how many people have done the S thing?
…and how many of them were… unwholesome..

last edited at Apr 16, 2026 12:31PM

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joined Apr 23, 2023

All my love to deranged, deeply wounded characters like Mizuki and Aoyama. I also read Aoyama as having been a victim of sexual abuse AND having become extremely attached to her abuser, and that's why her behavior is weird and fucked up, Just Like in Real Life.

And... being told that an S relationship can be something contained and innocent and not her intense and abusive experience must have twisted the knife. I read "so this baton's been passing round after all" a little like my life has been ruined by this but at least I'm not the only one. Can't wait for the next chapter!!

Capture
joined Aug 12, 2021

ah. It's boxcutters then.

Beatorokken
joined Feb 23, 2014

alright everyone place your bets now. Is this new character and new arc gonna give us box cutters or sunflowers?

I'm all in on box cutters baby!
We will alternate between toxic and pure.

ALWAYS BET ON BOX CUTTERS!

last edited at Apr 16, 2026 1:18PM

2here3there
joined Mar 19, 2022

Aoyama and Kasumi here reminds me a bit of A Streetcar Named Desire, mostly in the antagonistic framing between realism (yuri?) vs fantasy (Class S?). Where Aoyama does come off as the cruel and brutish Stanley, deriving a gross pleasure from trying to break what she sees as a fantasy relationship rather than her narrow box of what she's labeled as real romance. Though Aoyama is much more sympathetic than Stanley. I don't think Igurashi is going to go full Blanche with Kasumi, but I hope this encounter doesn't scar her too much. This stranger was very much not just a friend you haven't met.

I will never get enough of Igurashi's framing and shading work, which always does such a good job invoking the sense dread and terror I often feel for Kasumi in this rather dark world. It's a bleak ending to this chapter and I figure the next chapter will revolve around Aoyama's own S journey, but I am hoping that soon Haruyo can bring back the light in Kasumi's world.

Thank you for the continued translations! I was really looking forward to this one though I figured it would be a harder one to translate with Aoyama's speech style.

last edited at Apr 16, 2026 1:39PM

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