(I wish the people that dislike the lolicon genre regardless would just blacklist the tag already, instead of wasting time and forum space for pointless discussion on morals in a clearly tagged comedy series)

I specifically want to know why they're even here. If someone doesn't like a tag, why are they reading this or commenting on it? They need to leave people alone and take their moral grandstanding to the dead bird app. That applies to snarky little comments about the author too.

Natto pizza

Sicilian Mafia are going to murder you, really. It's even worse than pizzas with pineapple topping.

Though reading the whole chapter, I probably am going to skip this. I don't like such a horrible kusogaki, and destroying others' thing (while she didn't even do anything) is just bullying.

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What makes this series different from most other oneeloli manga I've read is the protagonist is explicitly and self-admittedly a pedophile, to the extent that she deliberately tries to avoid situations where she might meet a young girl. While I think it is more "honest" than most other such manga for that reason, it also gives the comedy quite a weird feeling lol.

I apologize if this comes across as offensive, and please feel free to correct me if I'm misunderstanding something. However, I find it strange how we often use the term lolicon instead of calling it what it really seems to be: pedophilia. When an older person is drawn to "cute" and clearly young-looking characters, we soften the language by calling it lolicon, but the underlying theme doesn’t really change.

Well, in Japanese, "lolicon" literally means "pedophile" (albeit specifically toward young girls). It sounds softer to English speakers because it lacks some of the emotional associations we've built up toward the word "pedophile" but strictly speaking the meaning is the same.

What sets this work apart is not the language used but the (relatively) realistic portrayal of pedophiliac attraction. This isn't like Wataten or Yuzumori-san where the older girl seems to literally only be attracted to one person who "just happens" to be a child. Riko is explicitly attracted to children in general, is aware of it, and structures her life around it. Someone else mentioned this manga, but that one is so absurdly over the top you can't really take it seriously. The characters and dialogue in this manga otoh are fairly grounded, Aika is the most "unrealistic" but not overly so, which is why it gives me kind of a weird/unsettling feeling. I do find it interesting though so I will keep reading.

What makes this series different from most other oneeloli manga I've read is the protagonist is explicitly and self-admittedly a pedophile, to the extent that she deliberately tries to avoid situations where she might meet a young girl. While I think it is more "honest" than most other such manga for that reason, it also gives the comedy quite a weird feeling lol.

I apologize if this comes across as offensive, and please feel free to correct me if I'm misunderstanding something. However, I find it strange how we often use the term lolicon instead of calling it what it really seems to be: pedophilia. When an older person is drawn to "cute" and clearly young-looking characters, we soften the language by calling it lolicon, but the underlying theme doesn’t really change.

Well, in Japanese, "lolicon" literally means "pedophile" (albeit specifically toward young girls). It sounds softer to English speakers because it lacks some of the emotional associations we've built up toward the word "pedophile" but strictly speaking the meaning is the same.

What sets this work apart is not the language used but the (relatively) realistic portrayal of pedophiliac attraction. This isn't like Wataten or Yuzumori-san where the older girl seems to literally only be attracted to one person who "just happens" to be a child. Riko is explicitly attracted to children in general, is aware of it, and structures her life around it. Someone else mentioned this manga, but that one is so absurdly over the top you can't really take it seriously. The characters and dialogue in this manga otoh are fairly grounded, Aika is the most "unrealistic" but not overly so, which is why it gives me kind of a weird/unsettling feeling. I do find it interesting though so I will keep reading.

Ah, I see, thank you for explaining ^_^. I didn’t realize that lolicon in Japanese directly translates to pedophile. I always assumed it referred to characters with childlike features, even if they’re actually supposed to be, like, 106 years old or something.

Yeah, I get what you mean. The grounded way the characters are written definitely makes it feel more real, which is probably why it’s kind of unsettling. It’s a lot different from something like as you mentioned Wataten or Onee-san wa Joshi Shougakusei ni Kyoumi ga Arimasu, where the tone is way more exaggerated or absurd. I’m guessing the discomfort is intentional? Feels like it’s trying to make the reader think about stuff like boundaries or self-awareness. Either way, I’m curious to see where it goes too.

Ah, I see, thank you for explaining ^_^. I didn’t realize that lolicon in Japanese directly translates to pedophile. I always assumed it referred to characters with childlike features, even if they’re actually supposed to be, like, 106 years old or something.

"Lolicon" is an abbreviation of "lolita complex." 'Lolita' and its shortened form 'loli,' at least in Japanese, came from Vladimir Nabokov's famous novel, and it originally referred to prepubescent girls though it has since expanded to meaning anyone with childlike features, as you say. "Lolicon," on the other hand, refers to anyone with a complex for/obsession with such girls, i.e., a pedophile. Compare also to "brocon" or "siscon".

Yeah, I get what you mean. The grounded way the characters are written definitely makes it feel more real, which is probably why it’s kind of unsettling. It’s a lot different from something like as you mentioned Wataten or Onee-san wa Joshi Shougakusei ni Kyoumi ga Arimasu, where the tone is way more exaggerated or absurd. I’m guessing the discomfort is intentional? Feels like it’s trying to make the reader think about stuff like boundaries or self-awareness. Either way, I’m curious to see where it goes too.

I think it has to be intentional; the author is surely aware of Wataten for example, this chapter even has a reference to it with Riko comparing Aika to an angel. I also have faith in nmi's writing from their oneshots. We'll see!

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You know, I really shouldn't have been holding that cursed monkey's paw when I wished nmi would get a serialization.

SrNevik posted:

It's a recipe for the ax, because it can't go anywhere.

After 1 chapter? We have more imagination than that, surely. We reached the "I don't like this so it must/will end," stage super quick with this one. Guess I understand why. Otherwise, I'm surprised this is NMI's new manga. I did love their other one shots. All of them showed a lot of creative ideas so I wonder how straightforward or unexpected this series will be. I'd be surprised if its played in a typical way.

It's not that I don't like it. Actually, I'm pretty indifferent toward it.

I just mean that there can't be any actual "serious" romantic development between the two. The story is going to meander around with the MC feeling guilty and the brat being insufferable and them keeping on meeting each other because plot.

No one (sane) wants this to turn into an actual relationship, because it's just lolicon comedy (haha) and not a romance. If the author can drag this long enough, it'll end with a promise to get together when the brat is 18, or with a timeskip.

Much like the "Be careful Onee-san".

At least she's aware that she's a lolicon (.__. )..
and out of all loli, she falls for a devil loli (.__. )

What happened to them and the education system? Why are these 8 year old sounds so cruel and terrible :< ?

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Well, that went in an entirely unexpected direction after that cute opening. Certainly seems to be promising a fun ride from here. :D

Diddy blud manga
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(I wish the people that dislike the lolicon genre regardless would just blacklist the tag already, instead of wasting time and forum space for pointless discussion on morals in a clearly tagged comedy series)

I specifically want to know why they're even here. If someone doesn't like a tag, why are they reading this or commenting on it? They need to leave people alone and take their moral grandstanding to the dead bird app. That applies to snarky little comments about the author too.

For morality points and attention. Even though no one forced them to read it they will nevertheless tell you how they just had to read it and that they didn't like it. These people will be here every time a new chapter comes and even though they hate it, they will be in comments to remind you just how much they hate it.

I can only imagine how things will go when the sister finds out, it'll either be very comedic (You love my younger sister? I'll help you out!) or very dramatic (You love my younger sister? You creep! Don't show your face here again!) depending on how it handles it, it might make or break the series for me.

fun first chappy

great, new incel slop

Personally giving this one the benefit of the doubt due to the author's past work, the level of grounding vs. the little girl's tonal whiplash trope cocktail, and the fact that the older sister exists. Obviously most people would find the realism uncomfortable or disturbing, but I personally think that a paraphilia does not inherently make someone a bad person and that the central pairing is not in fact intended to be with this annoying little girl. This is very much setup for her being able to not be a pedophile in any meaningful way, imo. Because honestly? We need something like that in fiction. A closeted pedophile with little to no ability to manage it is much more dangerous than one that knows how to deal with it and where to get help. (Look, people here might like lolicon content and that's whatever, but you cannot possibly claim a fulfilling romantic relationship with a child is possible without ignoring warning alarms in your head blaring how stupid you are to say that..)

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I can only imagine how things will go when the sister finds out, it'll either be very comedic (You love my younger sister? I'll help you out!) or very dramatic (You love my younger sister? You creep! Don't show your face here again!) depending on how it handles it, it might make or break the series for me.

Agreed, I feel like this premise could go in a lot of different directions.

What happened to them and the education system? Why are these 8 year old sounds so cruel and terrible :< ?

I can only imagine it being for the dramatic effect. The way this kid treated Riko is really horrible.

damnn 42 posts in just a day? i can't even imagine how wild this is gonna get in a month

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I can only imagine how things will go when the sister finds out, it'll either be very comedic (You love my younger sister? I'll help you out!) or very dramatic (You love my younger sister? You creep! Don't show your face here again!) depending on how it handles it, it might make or break the series for me.

I kinda thought her friend figured it out since she was like “Wait…” after she ran away, but I doubt it since it’s too early and that’s not really a conclusion anyone would jump to. Also, I think it’s funny that nmi made so many interesting, well-written, and mostly relatively unique one-shots and then went with something like this for her first ongoing story. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not complaining about this at all since it’s interesting and I’ll keep reading it, but I just thought it was very different from all of the one-shots.

Personally giving this one the benefit of the doubt due to the author's past work, the level of grounding vs. the little girl's tonal whiplash trope cocktail, and the fact that the older sister exists. Obviously most people would find the realism uncomfortable or disturbing, but I personally think that a paraphilia does not inherently make someone a bad person and that the central pairing is not in fact intended to be with this annoying little girl. This is very much setup for her being able to not be a pedophile in any meaningful way, imo. Because honestly? We need something like that in fiction. A closeted pedophile with little to no ability to manage it is much more dangerous than one that knows how to deal with it and where to get help. (Look, people here might like lolicon content and that's whatever, but you cannot possibly claim a fulfilling romantic relationship with a child is possible without ignoring warning alarms in your head blaring how stupid you are to say that..)

I do think a "lolicon" story where the protagonist overcomes their pedophilia and has a healthy romance instead would be pretty interesting and unique. It's probably not going to turn out that way here but stranger things have happened. The level of realism in this manga does make me wonder a bit.

Since I'm seeing people speculate on these things, I'd like to add my thoughts on the topic. I think the little sister being rude might be an attempt to counter the imbalance in a possible relationship between the two characters, especially considering that the protagonist is a self-aware pedophile, and the word itself is explicitly mentioned in the story. A timid pedophile that is verbally abused by the child doesn't feel as threatening or predatory as a confident one taking advantage of an innocent kid, right?

That being said, the protagonist talking about how she "fell in love in third grade and just kept falling for third graders" makes me wonder if this really might be a story of her overcoming her pedophilia. Connecting it to a specific event might be a sign that she will overcome this condition by facing her past.

I would like to talk about how all these things could relate to real-life as well, but since we don't know the author it's probably best that I don't. I don't think I'll be reading this, at least not until it's finished, but I'm wishing a good time to those who will.

I heard you like em young

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Watch her get rehabilitated from liking third graders in general to liking only this one

I'm disappointed that the KIMO line is not translated as disgusting instead of creep.
Having someone call you disgusting is more emotionally damaging than a mere "creep".

Gotta disagree.

Sure, “disgusting” is definitely gonna do some damage and is not a great thing to be seen as. But “creep” implies that you already are disgusting AND that you are quite possibly dangerous. Like, a creep is usually someone who has degenerate interests/desires and may even act on them in some way. Maybe even morally reprehensible and/or illegal. Whereas someone who is “disgusting” may have degenerate interests and desires, but has probably not stooped to the level of acting on them or involving other real life people in them yet. Basically, “disgusting” implies that people wanna stay away from you cuz you are undesirable for whatever reason. “Creep” implies that people want to stay away from you cuz you are undesirable AND potentially dangerous. At least, that’s how I interpret those words.

I was always led to believe that “loli” wasn’t strictly an age thing but a body type thing, hence “child or child-like characters” and that “lolicon” was used to describe people who liked said loli characters

I was also led to believe that “loli” is only a word used to describe characters, not real people (hence the insistence to separate fiction from reality)

All that to say— why is she referring to herself as a lolicon when she’s a pedophile?

Was lolicon the word used in the raws? Or has lolicon/pedo always been interchangeable in Japan?

Personally, I tend to avoid this genre, but this particular work seems relatively innocent & uniquely different, though I’m still struggling to find the right words to describe it. Aika, for instance, appears to have a distinct personality, rather than being portrayed as the typical submissive, naive child character often found in many lolicon-themed manga. However, since it's only the first chapter, it's too soon for me to judge the direction of the series

Having a child character be assertive and aware isn’t new as far as I’m aware. In this manga, the child character is assertive too and isn’t naive

And the degrading talk definitely (judging from this song) isn’t new either (<— this is the English version of it) so people going into this expecting MC to change should lower their expectations…