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Stardusttelepath8
joined Oct 15, 2014

Also wasn't she saying that she wanted to hold her and be held? If that is the standard Japanese euphemism for sex, then it would seem to me that they hadn't slept together yet. But I was also confused about it...

The main term used here is 抱きしめる which generally means to hug/hold/embrace (which I mix up mainly to avoid repetitiveness) but is also used as a euphamism for having sex (with "embrace" usually a good middle ground that can go either way and is often the go-to choice when someone uses it as an intentionally vague dirty joke). While which one they were doing inbetween chapters is left to our imagination, the context Mei is using on p169 is more "I wanna embrace her again (cos I miss the feeling of it already)" rather than "I wanna "embrace" her (for the first time)".

GottaLoveRarePairs
joined Sep 10, 2022

Again, we have a flashback panel in that page where Mei talks about "feeling/holding/kissing" Maria, where they're both visibly naked and panting heavily mid-kiss. If they somehow didn't have sex offscreen, they at minimum went as close to the line on that matter as you can get.

thechampionmike95
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joined Aug 6, 2015

Y'all, I'm aware of the premise, I didn't just pop into the 40th chapter randomly. I know she's inexperienced, I still don't think inexperience equates to just assuming love from every physical encounter. Plus, she doesn't need to have experienced it herself, by college you would be aware of other people's relationships, people dating and breaking up, and also hookup culture. Like, I can fully believe that she is personally inexperienced, I have a friend that didn't date until after college. But that's different than being naive to the point of assuming love in every physical encounter.

This is a comedy yuri harem manga. I feel like you're looking way too deep into this. You're also not taking cultures into account. Not every person is brought up the same. Different cultures play a big part of how people grow up.

thechampionmike95
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joined Aug 6, 2015

So like did Mei and Sensei actually fuck or was it just a makeout session

If you look at page 0168 when Mei has a flashback, you can see that she and Sensei were naked and panting while they were kissing. Also, for what it's worth, the first page of the chapter is a splash page of Sensei naked under the sheets looking at the viewer is the sort of image you'd see for a typical "Morning After" scene.

So signs are pointing to "Yes, Mei and Sensei did actually sleep together."

As for the endgame, we'll have to wait and see, but looking at Tamamusi-sensei's Twitter page, there's at least one more official artwork there of Mei and Sensei naked together and another artwork of them both together in wedding dresses. Granted, that could just be fan service and isn't a smoking gun, but IMO I'd say the most likely MeiBowl winners from the harem are either Sensei or Riri, followed by Mei's old senpai from high school.

My gut is leaning towards Mei ending up with Sensei though, with with the other four harem girls all being paired together (Riri/Karin, Kaoru/Minato) and Mei finally getting a love confession from her senpai, but having to reject her after moving on and falling for Sensei.

I highly doubt they slept together. The biggest indication is the fact that Mei didn't go crazy over about it. She solely mentions them kissing. Her and Maria would put Maria too far ahead of the others. Plus if they did sleep together their would be no point in making that promise, since they would've already crosses that student/teacher line

X2(edited)2
joined Jan 2, 2022

Y'all, I'm aware of the premise, I didn't just pop into the 40th chapter randomly. I know she's inexperienced, I still don't think inexperience equates to just assuming love from every physical encounter. Plus, she doesn't need to have experienced it herself, by college you would be aware of other people's relationships, people dating and breaking up, and also hookup culture. Like, I can fully believe that she is personally inexperienced, I have a friend that didn't date until after college. But that's different than being naive to the point of assuming love in every physical encounter.

This is a comedy yuri harem manga. I feel like you're looking way too deep into this. You're also not taking cultures into account. Not every person is brought up the same. Different cultures play a big part of how people grow up.

I mean, we're on a forum for manga, looking way too deep into things is par for the course. I feel like that's unintentionally putting down comedy as a genre as well. As far as cultures, I don't necessarily disagree but I'm not sure how this applies to this situation. Are you talking about the "culture" of Mei or the author's experience?

To be clear, I don't dislike the manga. I think a lot of the interactions are fun. I don't see why thinking the main character is unrealistically, and to me distractingly, naive is not taking account of the culture, rather than expressing a flaw I find in something I like.

X2(edited)2
joined Jan 2, 2022

At first I thought the flashback panel wasn't Maria naked but rather that the collarbone area was the top of her shirt, but checking back from the previous chapter it's clearly her collarbone, and she doesn't have the straps of her dress showing, so she's gotta be at least topless.

Maybe this is a way to have them have sex while keeping it just on the suggestive side for a younger audience?

543633_50
joined Sep 10, 2022

So like did Mei and Sensei actually fuck or was it just a makeout session

If you look at page 0168 when Mei has a flashback, you can see that she and Sensei were naked and panting while they were kissing. Also, for what it's worth, the first page of the chapter is a splash page of Sensei naked under the sheets looking at the viewer is the sort of image you'd see for a typical "Morning After" scene.

So signs are pointing to "Yes, Mei and Sensei did actually sleep together."

As for the endgame, we'll have to wait and see, but looking at Tamamusi-sensei's Twitter page, there's at least one more official artwork there of Mei and Sensei naked together and another artwork of them both together in wedding dresses. Granted, that could just be fan service and isn't a smoking gun, but IMO I'd say the most likely MeiBowl winners from the harem are either Sensei or Riri, followed by Mei's old senpai from high school.

My gut is leaning towards Mei ending up with Sensei though, with with the other four harem girls all being paired together (Riri/Karin, Kaoru/Minato) and Mei finally getting a love confession from her senpai, but having to reject her after moving on and falling for Sensei.

I highly doubt they slept together. The biggest indication is the fact that Mei didn't go crazy over about it. She solely mentions them kissing. Her and Maria would put Maria too far ahead of the others. Plus if they did sleep together their would be no point in making that promise, since they would've already crosses that student/teacher line.

They already way crossed that line by kissing, hiding away together for a getaway, sleeping with each other naked, etc. I'm pretty sure they had sex. The distinction is prob that they can't have a full relationship where they're constantly sneaking around. Maria wants something more stable. One time is fine though. Plus Maria is already ahead of the other girls right now because Mei says she loves only her and rejected the thought of other girls in this chapter. So she does "know which one is love," at the moment.

last edited at Mar 29, 2025 7:46AM

thechampionmike95
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joined Aug 6, 2015

Y'all, I'm aware of the premise, I didn't just pop into the 40th chapter randomly. I know she's inexperienced, I still don't think inexperience equates to just assuming love from every physical encounter. Plus, she doesn't need to have experienced it herself, by college you would be aware of other people's relationships, people dating and breaking up, and also hookup culture. Like, I can fully believe that she is personally inexperienced, I have a friend that didn't date until after college. But that's different than being naive to the point of assuming love in every physical encounter.

This is a comedy yuri harem manga. I feel like you're looking way too deep into this. You're also not taking cultures into account. Not every person is brought up the same. Different cultures play a big part of how people grow up.

I mean, we're on a forum for manga, looking way too deep into things is par for the course. I feel like that's unintentionally putting down comedy as a genre as well. As far as cultures, I don't necessarily disagree but I'm not sure how this applies to this situation. Are you talking about the "culture" of Mei or the author's experience?

To be clear, I don't dislike the manga. I think a lot of the interactions are fun. I don't see why thinking the main character is unrealistically, and to me distractingly, naive is not taking account of the culture, rather than expressing a flaw I find in something I like.

Isn't her being unrealistically naive what makes this a comedy manga. Also being naive and at times clueless is a common trope in harem manga. It's a gag played up for laughs. Not saying you have to like it, but if it's something you don't like I don't think you'll like the rest of the manga. I don't think that's something Mei will be dropping anytime soon. It's a main part of her comedy.

thechampionmike95
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joined Aug 6, 2015

So like did Mei and Sensei actually fuck or was it just a makeout session

If you look at page 0168 when Mei has a flashback, you can see that she and Sensei were naked and panting while they were kissing. Also, for what it's worth, the first page of the chapter is a splash page of Sensei naked under the sheets looking at the viewer is the sort of image you'd see for a typical "Morning After" scene.

So signs are pointing to "Yes, Mei and Sensei did actually sleep together."

As for the endgame, we'll have to wait and see, but looking at Tamamusi-sensei's Twitter page, there's at least one more official artwork there of Mei and Sensei naked together and another artwork of them both together in wedding dresses. Granted, that could just be fan service and isn't a smoking gun, but IMO I'd say the most likely MeiBowl winners from the harem are either Sensei or Riri, followed by Mei's old senpai from high school.

My gut is leaning towards Mei ending up with Sensei though, with with the other four harem girls all being paired together (Riri/Karin, Kaoru/Minato) and Mei finally getting a love confession from her senpai, but having to reject her after moving on and falling for Sensei.

I highly doubt they slept together. The biggest indication is the fact that Mei didn't go crazy over about it. She solely mentions them kissing. Her and Maria would put Maria too far ahead of the others. Plus if they did sleep together their would be no point in making that promise, since they would've already crosses that student/teacher line.

They already way crossed that line by kissing, hiding away together for a getaway, sleeping with each other naked, etc. I'm pretty sure they had sex. The distinction is prob that they can't have a full relationship where they're constantly sneaking around. Maria wants something more stable. One time is fine though. Plus Maria is already ahead of the other girls right now because Mei says she loves only her and rejected the thought of other girls in this chapter. So she does "know which one is love," at the moment.

I doubt they had sex. Mei would've made a much bigger deal out of it. There's never a line or a moment where Mei is a blushing mess over having sex with Maria. It would also feel out of place, since at that point there was no big revelation or anything. Mei just pressed on and Maria gave in. I feel like if the author was to introduce sex into the story it wouldn't be in such a throwaway manner. Also didn't really reject the other girls. She mentions not picking Karin because she doesn't want to get hurt. Remember she believes Karin treats everyone the same way and thinks Karin wouldn't be loyal to her ans just keep kissing other women.

GottaLoveRarePairs
joined Sep 10, 2022

So like did Mei and Sensei actually fuck or was it just a makeout session

If you look at page 0168 when Mei has a flashback, you can see that she and Sensei were naked and panting while they were kissing. Also, for what it's worth, the first page of the chapter is a splash page of Sensei naked under the sheets looking at the viewer is the sort of image you'd see for a typical "Morning After" scene.

So signs are pointing to "Yes, Mei and Sensei did actually sleep together."

As for the endgame, we'll have to wait and see, but looking at Tamamusi-sensei's Twitter page, there's at least one more official artwork there of Mei and Sensei naked together and another artwork of them both together in wedding dresses. Granted, that could just be fan service and isn't a smoking gun, but IMO I'd say the most likely MeiBowl winners from the harem are either Sensei or Riri, followed by Mei's old senpai from high school.

My gut is leaning towards Mei ending up with Sensei though, with with the other four harem girls all being paired together (Riri/Karin, Kaoru/Minato) and Mei finally getting a love confession from her senpai, but having to reject her after moving on and falling for Sensei.

I highly doubt they slept together. The biggest indication is the fact that Mei didn't go crazy over about it. She solely mentions them kissing. Her and Maria would put Maria too far ahead of the others. Plus if they did sleep together their would be no point in making that promise, since they would've already crosses that student/teacher line.

They already way crossed that line by kissing, hiding away together for a getaway, sleeping with each other naked, etc. I'm pretty sure they had sex. The distinction is prob that they can't have a full relationship where they're constantly sneaking around. Maria wants something more stable. One time is fine though. Plus Maria is already ahead of the other girls right now because Mei says she loves only her and rejected the thought of other girls in this chapter. So she does "know which one is love," at the moment.

I doubt they had sex. Mei would've made a much bigger deal out of it. There's never a line or a moment where Mei is a blushing mess over having sex with Maria. It would also feel out of place, since at that point there was no big revelation or anything. Mei just pressed on and Maria gave in. I feel like if the author was to introduce sex into the story it wouldn't be in such a throwaway manner. Also didn't really reject the other girls. She mentions not picking Karin because she doesn't want to get hurt. Remember she believes Karin treats everyone the same way and thinks Karin wouldn't be loyal to her ans just keep kissing other women.

They almost certainly had sex. Mei and Maria were both visibly naked and panting in the flashback panel. Present Day Mei was also blushing pretty heavily in that panel too.

Even if they somehow didn't have sex, they very clearly went about as close to having sex with each other as you can manage.

last edited at Mar 29, 2025 6:37PM

GottaLoveRarePairs
joined Sep 10, 2022

At first I thought the flashback panel wasn't Maria naked but rather that the collarbone area was the top of her shirt, but checking back from the previous chapter it's clearly her collarbone, and she doesn't have the straps of her dress showing, so she's gotta be at least topless.

It also looks like Mei was probably naked too, looking at what we're able to see from her right shoulder in the panel.

Maybe this is a way to have them have sex while keeping it just on the suggestive side for a younger audience?

I'd have to assume this is exactly the case.

Again, a few months ago, Tamamusi did official art elsewhere of Mei and Maria naked together in a small bathtub and another one from last year where they're both in wedding dresses together and holding hands.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GiSD8jkbkAA5OPo?format=jpg&name=large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQGJJa0bEAEU1Yw?format=jpg&name=medium

Neither of those are a confirmation of anything IMO, but I'd say that acting like Maria isn't the frontrunner at this point or that she has no shot at being endgame with Mei at all is a bit crazy.

joined Mar 11, 2019

Oh they boned

joined Apr 13, 2017

I think the teacher might win. My prediction is that all of the confessions will end up with some issue that needs to be solved. Karin’s problem is that she uses kissing to forget and essentially kisses anyone. My prediction for everyone else is that Riri-Chan has some issues with intimacy before marriage. It may be due to her being an idol or coming from a conservative family. In one chapter, Minato completely rejects another girl and says something about love being impossible for her. I don’t know her issue, but I don’t see her ending up with Mei because of this clue. Kaoru seems to have a problem giving in to desires from her long speeches despite giving in to her desires when she sniffs Mei. That is probably why she hasn’t confessed. (This could be a reach, though Kaoru seems complicated)
The only issue Maria has is that her position as a teacher hinders her ability to go further with Mei. She seems fine with waiting for her and having her experience other relationships. In the end, if they’re both single, I’m sure she would accept her as a girlfriend. I wish I knew where the ex crush came in the picture. Maybe she’s being used as a tool for Mei to figure out which girl she likes the most.

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joined Jun 6, 2020

so the childhood best friend is the 6th member but has comphet hangups or something?

last edited at Apr 28, 2025 8:26PM

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joined Oct 14, 2014

Huh, her face and style resemble Kaoru's the most. Interesting...

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joined Nov 13, 2022

Oh my god the angst! Minato was definitely charming this chapter. Being on the ace/aro spectra, my first reaction to the avoidance of the kiss was "Yeah cuz kissing is weird and gross. Duh!" But I kind of doubt that's what's happening here. I wonder if we'll get more of an explanation, or if it will just be left like that....

joined Feb 24, 2023

I was so for team Sensei but idk they pissed me off with how she essentially led Mei on and when she finall reciprocates she goes “sorry no nothing can happen for four years MAYBE if we’re also still single by then” like that’s essentially a white flag and immediately killed that ships momentum dead. Felt like I just wasted my time getting invested. I feel like every relationship is gonna end up like this now I kinda don’t wanna get to invested in any of them.

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joined Oct 15, 2021

damn thats sad

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

so the childhood best friend is the 6th member but has comphet hangups or something?

I don't think it's comphet at all, I think she's ace, but not aromantic. She loves Mei but doesn't want sexual intimacy.

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

I was so for team Sensei but idk they pissed me off with how she essentially led Mei on and when she finall reciprocates she goes “sorry no nothing can happen for four years MAYBE if we’re also still single by then” like that’s essentially a white flag and immediately killed that ships momentum dead. Felt like I just wasted my time getting invested. I feel like every relationship is gonna end up like this now I kinda don’t wanna get to invested in any of them.

Never trust a teacher that's willing to schupp their own student. That is a person with absolutely no ethics, and they can't be trusted to do anything other than what the whims of the moment entail.

whitenight2013
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joined Mar 10, 2018

What a nice twist. I saw the childhood friend liking Mei coming, but I didn't expect the boyfriend to be fake. Adds some nice depth, and the guy isn't being blissfully unaware that his girlfriend loves someone else.

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joined Apr 27, 2014

Noooo, I want her to be with her silly school friend now!!! T_T

So, is the friend ace or just some good old internalized homophobia? will I ever know?

last edited at Apr 29, 2025 12:03AM

1pixel
joined Dec 3, 2010

I start reading halfway (actually no, I start from ch41) and surprisingly, they are actually mutual.
This is sad.
I must have confused the mangaka Tamamusi sensei with Mochi Au Lait sensei..

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joined Nov 27, 2022

40 chapters in and they drop this bombshell so casually??? Now i am le sad! Me want more harem :( more lesbeans. Come on girl, get in line. Mei takes all.

Roody
joined Feb 11, 2022

Expecting Chiharu endgame but still praying for poly

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