Walk away while you can. Friend zoned. Remember your first love fondly and get fishing again.

Kamiya the goat

Seeing this happen for the umpteenth time, it does make me wonder if so many yuri manga pull this will they wont they shit for so long cuz theyre afraid of having to finish up fast or get axed once the confession is over.

More broadly I just find that most mangaka can't sustain a story beyond the initial premise.

Pls Kamiya...i beg. Spell it out for these two idiots. We can't handle this no more

Shocked so many ppl are calling them BOTH idiots or useless lesbians.

Yuzu is the only idiot and useless one here

Minami literally confessed and Yuzu pushed her away. Any normal person, let alone inexperienced teen, would take being PUSHED away as a sign of rejection, and decide to just give up.

Good point!

Minami literally confessed and Yuzu pushed her away. Any normal person, let alone inexperienced teen, would take being PUSHED away as a sign of rejection, and decide to just give up.

Minami not using her words + how long we've been waiting for a "confession" = They are both stupid for me. Yuzu is the dumbest smoothest brain here for sure, but we've been watching from Minami's POV for so long that her going "guess it won't happen" feels very deflating and kind of undermines how long she's been working to ask Yuzu out.

Minami literally confessed

I'm sorry but no, it was extremely heavily implied but not literal :P It's fine in normal situations but people easily forget that nothing about this was normal, according to these two they're best friends who kiss each other on the cheek and sleep with each other (no homo). Anything other than the literal "I love you, please be my girlfriend" doesn't cut it in this situation and I think Minami should've known that. I don't necessarily think this was well executed, but I think it was somewhat logically consistent with how Yuzu behaved up until this point.

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Cute. ^_^

Anything other than the literal "I love you, please be my girlfriend" doesn't cut it in this situation

Preferably with her hands wrapped around Yuzu’s neck and then screaming, “Do you get it? Do you GET it!?! Say yes or I’ll fucking strangle you!”

Or something along those lines.

Anything other than the literal "I love you, please be my girlfriend" doesn't cut it in this situation

Preferably with her hands wrapped around Yuzu’s neck and then screaming, “Do you get it? Do you GET it!?! Say yes or I’ll fucking strangle you!”

Or something along those lines.

Alternatively fully strapped up and mid sex while confessing, maybe, and it's a big maybe, but it might actually get through then lol

Anything other than the literal "I love you, please be my girlfriend" doesn't cut it in this situation

Preferably with her hands wrapped around Yuzu’s neck and then screaming, “Do you get it? Do you GET it!?! Say yes or I’ll fucking strangle you!”

Or something along those lines.

Alternatively fully strapped up and mid sex while confessing, maybe, and it's a big maybe, but it might actually get through then lol

Could work, but throw a pair of pink fuzzy handcuffs in there. Just to be sure.

I'm sorry, but I'm rooting for Kamiya now. Yuzu rejected her, simple as that. She didn't even have the justification Tsukushi did (Our Yuri Started With Me Getting Rejected in a Dream) of being a neurotic mess operating on no sleep and suffering from heat exhaustion. Maybe seeing her best friend date another girl would get her out of whatever funk she is in because right now Minami is too good for her.

Also, wow. I know that both this manga and Rejected in a Dream are often compared cause of similar premises and serialization dates, but comparing Tsukushi and Yuzu is just so damning for Yuzu. Both series pulled the "actually the romance is mutual" twist with volume 2, however, Yuzu only became a worse character because of it. For comparison, Tsukushi -- the character literally defined by her fear of rejection -- gave off a more ambiguous "rejection" for the climax. And this was after getting no sleep from anxiety over her confession, general loopiness from heat exhaustion, and having her entire train of thought obliterated through a kiss. A reaction that bloody broke Hinoka, until Tsukushi cleared it up the next day.

Yuzu, you blew it. You rejected your best friend so thoroughly that Minami's friends were thoroughly convinced she was about to commit suicide. Now as painful as it is to tell a clearly demisexual character this, Minami just go out with your cute kohai. She at least loves you back.

maybe the manga is being successful and that's why the author wanna stretch it pointlessly? anyway already lost me entirely, it's just cheap misunderstandings now, i started liking this a good bunch now i hate it

"how do i ruin my perfectly enjoyable manga?"

Status quo will remain, no matter the cost! Chapter 28 is the finale btw. So we really stalled till the end.

really?? oh damn, i'm only finding out now. this manga went in a severe downhill, what a waste

I was actually enjoying this, but reaching the end by chapter 28 is definitely disappointing. A lot of things should have been handled differently if the end is so near, I think. I didn't really mind the contrived prolonging of the story, and even this unjustifiable rejection wouldn't ruin it for me. But I doubt two chapters are enough for a proper resolution, it's going to feel very rushed. I don't understand the decision to waste the last couple of chapters on a conflict that could have easily been avoided. If chapter 28 were to be the ending, it would make a lot more sense to have the confession be accepted here and have a couple more chapters to give a bit of closure to the characters and the readers alike.

It's very hard not to run out of patience with Yuzu. I can understand being dense and not realizing someone likes you, but, girl, Minami was literally centimeters away from kissing you on the mouth on several occasions.

I kinda feel like their friends should just intervene at this point. I'd love to see a story where the whole "they need to figure it out on their own :)" trope is totally discredited.

I just re-read the whole thing, and while I’m usually in the “let repetitive comedy manga be repetitive and not worry too much about progress” camp, romantic progress really was baked into the premise of this one, and by the start of the ski-trip arc it really seemed to be less about the characters developing and more about the author manipulating the plot to keep what must happen from actually happening.

And sure, “smart and observant characters are super-dense about the one most important thing” is a time-honored yuri trope, but in this case to it’s just become shop-worn.

To the point where every time the phrase “best friends” is used to block development I feel like punching something. Figuratively speaking.

Minami not using her words + how long we've been waiting for a "confession" = They are both stupid for me.

I feel like saying “I want you” and literally leaning in is blunt enough of a confession

I have NEVER seen saying “I want you” (let alone, leaning in closer) in that context, as something that’s NOT sexual/romantic. There’s literally NO reason to take that in a non-romantic or non-sexual way, unless you’re in denial or straight and denying it to avoid directly turning the person down.

You can feel that way I guess, but imo it’s unfair to call her an idiot.

In a relationship, you have to take risks. Minami took the risk of bluntly saying “I want you” and leaning in for a kiss and Yuzu, being the stupid coward that she is, didn’t want to take that risk, and pushed Minami away

Relationships are a two-way street. If Yuzu isn’t gonna meet Minami halfway, or actually just pursue her, then I’d rather see Minami end up with the kohai

Yuzu is the dumbest smoothest brain here for sure, but we've been watching from Minami's POV for so long that her going "guess it won't happen" feels very deflating and kind of undermines how long she's been working to ask Yuzu out.

Yuzu literally pushed Minami away when she tried to kiss her. I really think it’s unfair to twist it as “Minami’s an idiot for not kissing a girl who pushed her away” when Yuzu hasn’t given any signals and has been ACTIVELY suppressing her feelings

In Minami’s POV, Yuzu was hard to read. Even then, as the reader, we didn’t know until we got Yuzu’s POV. I get being disappointed, but also it’s 100% on Yuzu for not taking the risk. I can’t expect a character to just force a kiss onto someone who pushed them away initially, ESPECIALLY when Minami doesn’t wanna risk their friendship.

I'm sorry but no, it was extremely heavily implied but not literal :P

Saying “I want you” and leaning in close will only be interpreted as anything other than an advance if the person is uninterested and trying to gently let the person down, or is in denial and doesn’t want to take the risk, thus turning them down. Either way it’s rejection

It's fine in normal situations but people easily forget that nothing about this was normal, according to these two they're best friends who kiss each other on the cheek and sleep with each other (no homo).

Sharing a bed and kissing cheeks is different from saying “I want you” and leaning in. Given the situation and general mood— which, EVEN YUZU got that vibe, “don’t give me hope” is what she literally thought

Anything other than the literal "I love you, please be my girlfriend" doesn't cut it in this situation and I think Minami should've known that. I don't necessarily think this was well executed, but I think it was somewhat logically consistent with how Yuzu behaved up until this point.

Logically consistent or not, calling Minami an idiot for playing it smart is silly. Yuzu is LITERALLY in denial. She’s too scared to hint at or do ANYTHING. She’s said she’s fine being friends, she’s acting as if she PREFERS being friends, regardless of whether or not she actually feels that way.

It’s not fair to call Minami an idiot when, while she DOES have feelings for Yuzu, she doesn’t want to lose her childhood friend. She took the risk and didn’t push the clear boundary set by Yuzu when she PUSHED HER AWAY.

Cuz in Minami’s mind, Yuzu’s stupid response could’ve been her gently letting her down OR that Yuzu just didn’t even SEE her as an option to begin with. Yuzu ISNT being dense here. It’s not “oh she didn’t realize that it was a romantic advance at all”

Yuzu acknowledged in the chapter that potential of it being something MORE and CHOSE to push Minami away. She’s clearly NOT ready for a relationship and instead of letting it happen, she CHOSES to cut it short.

Maybe I’ve seen too many romance stuff, but imo, saying “I want you” on a Ferris wheel, leaning in with your eyes closed— shoot, I just reread the scene, THEIR LIPS WERE A FEW CENTIMETERS APART, Minami was literally grabbing onto Yuzu’s sleeve. There’s NO logical way for that to NOT be taken in a romantic. HER HAND WAS ON HER CHEEK WHEN SHE SAID “I WANT YOU”, their hands were SO CLOSE, ALMOST fully touching.

That’s blunt enough imo

Yuzu is in denial. She isn’t ready for a relationship and clearly doesn’t want Minami enough to take that risk or even try and meet her halfway.

I’d go as far as saying, it’s BECAUSE Minami has worked SO HARD to win Yuzu over, and Yuzu NOT understanding that or wanting to take any risks, is why I don’t think they should get together.

Imo it’d be BETTER if they didn’t get together at this point. Idk what’s gonna happen in the next two chapters that’s gonna make Yuzu realize that she CAN date Minami, and that Minami ACTUALLY likes her, other than one of the other characters blatantly saying it, or her overhearing Minami vent about how her confession to Yuzu went poorly.

Yuzu thinks them getting together is “impossible” there’s literally been NO development on Yuzu coming to terms or even being pushed to accept the idea of them dating, that Idk now it’s gonna be resolved and it def ain’t gonna be resolved in a satisfying way.

I’d like to reiterate, Yuzu acting this way is BEYOND just being dense. It’s not that she’s “not seeing something that’s so obvious” it’s that she’s outright REFUSING to accept the reality, or even the possibility of Minami liking her back because she wants to protect herself

What REALLY annoys me about this scene, is that if Yuzu DIDNT MOVE, Minami would’ve kissed her, and she would’ve known for sure.

I’m sorry, I’m way too invested in this. I don’t think I’ve EVER seen a story dance around such an OBVIOUS confession before. Yuzu didn’t even ask “What do you mean by that?” which would’ve given Minami the chance to double down. If she backed out, then yeah, I get calling her an idiot— no, Yuzu straight up, didn’t try to meet her halfway, DIDNT EVEN TRY TO HUMOR the idea— just straight up shut it down. Shes pretending to be dense when in actuality, she’s in denial.

I’m so salty, omfg, it’s not even that deep :((

I'm sorry, but I'm rooting for Kamiya now. Yuzu rejected her, simple as that. She didn't even have the justification Tsukushi did (Our Yuri Started With Me Getting Rejected in a Dream) of being a neurotic mess operating on no sleep and suffering from heat exhaustion. Maybe seeing her best friend date another girl would get her out of whatever funk she is in because right now Minami is too good for her.

Also, wow. I know that both this manga and Rejected in a Dream are often compared cause of similar premises and serialization dates, but comparing Tsukushi and Yuzu is just so damning for Yuzu. Both series pulled the "actually the romance is mutual" twist with volume 2, however, Yuzu only became a worse character because of it. For comparison, Tsukushi -- the character literally defined by her fear of rejection -- gave off a more ambiguous "rejection" for the climax. And this was after getting no sleep from anxiety over her confession, general loopiness from heat exhaustion, and having her entire train of thought obliterated through a kiss. A reaction that bloody broke Hinoka, until Tsukushi cleared it up the next day.

Yuzu, you blew it. You rejected your best friend so thoroughly that Minami's friends were thoroughly convinced she was about to commit suicide. Now as painful as it is to tell a clearly demisexual character this, Minami just go out with your cute kohai. She at least loves you back.

Agreed except id rather Minami just open up to the idea of dating the kohai or just focusing on getting over Yuzu

Glad I’m not the only one feeling that Yuzu needs to own this L.

Y’all know the saying

“You miss all the shots you don’t take”?

Perfectly describes Yuzu and that whole chapter. All Yuzu had to do, was LITERALLY NOTHING. Wait another two seconds and she would’ve been kissed. Instead of freezing up, she pushes Minami away.

For those curious, I looked through ch. 27 raws;

BAD NEWS

We have to wait til Ch 28 for the confession. Minami is about to confess AGAIN or she literally DID say it, and it’s another cliff hanger for Yuzu’s reaction.

Also,

GOOD NEWS

The pandas were in fact, cute.

More of my ranting;

I honestly, didn’t even mind the “will they won’t they” thing up until this chapter and last chapter. That was the PERFECT moment for them to get together, and Yuzu literally didn’t have to do anything. It’s low-key frustrating for me, seeing Minami reach out AGAIN after initially being rejected, YUZU shouldve been the one to reach out.
Idk if the plan was to only have 28 chapters or if the author planned to make the series longer, and have a character tell Yuzu, straight up, that Minami has feelings for her, and Yuzu is the one who confesses and apologizes and tries to win Minami over, cuz that’s literally the only thing that’d save the ending for me.
Ideally, they don’t get together, because Yuzu messed up to the point where SHE needs to be the one to actually take a risk. At this point, even if Minami blatantly says, “I love you, please be my girlfriend” it’d be more in character for Yuzu to go, “Girl friend? We’re already girl friends! HA! HA! HA!” Cuz if almost getting kissed on the LIPS makes her think she has no chance, that them getting together is IMPOSSIBLE, I don’t see how a few words would be enough to convince her when friends can and have said stuff like “i love you”.
No friend says “I want you” that just doesn’t happen— and if it DOES, it’s ironic, and the person saying “I want you” makes it clear they’re joking— which isn’t even the kind of dynamic these two have.
Yuzu is in denial. She’s given up hope to the point she doesn’t even WANT to be with Minami.
I really wanted them to get together, but Yuzu literally pushed Minami away. Minami is the one who’s putting herself on the line, putting in so much effort. Minami is giving, giving, giving, and Yuzu isn’t giving back. She doesn’t WANT to give back. She doesn’t want to lose her friend. She doesn’t want change.

Or you could have wait. It's not like the team is inactive or slow.

I will not argue that this story was well planned out or well executed or anything, but I was more upset in earlier chapters when things were just straight up boring :P They should have skipped 90% of the parts before revealing Yuzu's point of view, there would be more time with tormenting the readers with this kind of stuff which I still think is funny (if kinda clumsily executed), I think this was the biggest salty wall of text I've seen so far on these forums lmao

... I will say, I don't understand why people have this concept of someone not deserving to be in a relationship just because they didn't follow the correct song and dance in order to reach it :P There is absolutely zero indication that Minami gives a shit about Kamiya romantically, there is plenty of evidence she still feels that way about Yuzu.

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