Ughhh what a great epilogue. The previous one was great too seeing all the side characters' loose ends getting wrapped up like seeing Hidesuke reconnecting with this daughter. That was such a heartwarming moment.

But yeah seeing time skips from the perspective of the kids all grown up just hits the heart in that special way. I really liked how it was from Hiyori's perspective as a 3rd party. Hiyori grew up to be so tall! Which I guess makes sense seeing how tall and lanky her grandma was haha. I like how it didn't brush Yuuta's problems he faced while growing up under the rug, and showed him taking the time to figure it out on his own with this supportive family behind him.

Wish we got to see more of this future, but I'm so happy to be able to have finally finished reading this series. Hard to believe it's already been 10 years, but it was worth the wait. Thanks again for everyone who worked on scanlating this series and for Gouma-den for picking it up so we could finally see the end!

Such a good end! Sad to see it go, but it was nice seeing Yuuta all grown up and a pretty happy ending.

what a beautiful story. Odd time skip but understandable

What a legendary run. This story will stick with me for a long time

This work is truly remarkable. It had so many different aspects packed together in one continuous story. That is something that I don't see much. Also the way it all drew together in the end was a really great way of story telling. I will remember this piece for a long time. It was a real blast to read and I am so thankful, that it got picked up again for translation and brought to the end. A huge thank you to the translators!

Why would she do that - because she likes Maya and understands that she might lose her.

Do you know what a great way to lose the person you like? Disappearing without a trace and then showing up years later with a kid just because the kid's dad died and now you need someone to help you.

That's not what happened, they've meet each other again by chance. And Maya was the one who offered help and not the other way.

god like, someone offered up the possibility that Maya may be trans several chapters and years ago now, and holy shit, this chapter with it's "only a few people called me by that name" in addition to everything else that other people have noticed from previous chapters. No way there's a cis explanation for this one haha

There's. She meant by first name.
Also nobody was surprised (she never was on a reunion since school.)

wait what? I already finished this story, and damn correct me if I wrong but,looks like kei ntr'ed nico and knocked up michiru while dating with him??what the crap, I dropped my jaw when kei mentioned he got michiru pregnant after doing it a fucking "COUPLE OF TIMES" yup it's not just a one night stand but A.FUCKING.COUPLE.OF.TIMES.*sigh*
sometimes I really tink maya is too good for michiru like the immature girl doesn't even deserve her a bit.
T-T. I so feel her pain for getting used of being abandoned.

Love is not about what you deserve. It's about what you feel for another person and what they feel for you. You don't need to "earn" the right to be in love and express that love. It's sort of a central theme of the entire manga lol. And god what an incredibly good manga it is.

wrt the trans theories, I think it's intentionally written as ambiguous on the part of the author, and personally the trans explanation for Maya's motivations and changes makes the most sense. She was very butch presenting in high school, and over time as we see her in different points of her life in the various short little flashback snippets we see, she gets more and more feminine. If she was a cis woman, this change in appearance would perfectly align with her boxing herself up and molding herself for social expectations to avoid being hurt, rather than her personal desires for how she wants to be. However, if that were the case, she'd be back to being butch in the epilogue, where she's decided to be who she wants to be rather than what society expects she should be. Instead she's more femme than ever. Maya being trans just fits so well with the things she experiences, the things she feels, and the framing of a bunch of things in her life that are left far more vague than Michiru's past is.
Also a bunch of smaller details rather than overarching character analysis: 1) She's flat chested in high school and in the story's present has the biggest bust out of any character in the manga 2) That extremely important high school memory with the Prez is about playing Viola from 12th Night, a girl who has to pretend to be a boy but gets to transform into her true self as a girl at the end. That's a super clear metaphor lol. 3) In between when we last see her as flat chested and a few years later when she's not, she was "overseas" for some time, during which time her parents disowned her by removing her name (the one those parents gave her) from the family registry.
All of this is potentially deniable. But I don't know why anyone would be particularly motivated to bother when it's a better story when all these pieces fit together rather than just being random haphazard details. :P

what did nico do to the author to make them go throw so much

Love is not about what you deserve. It's about what you feel for another person and what they feel for you. You don't need to "earn" the right to be in love and express that love. It's sort of a central theme of the entire manga lol. And god what an incredibly good manga it is.

wrt the trans theories, I think it's intentionally written as ambiguous on the part of the author, and personally the trans explanation for Maya's motivations and changes makes the most sense. She was very butch presenting in high school, and over time as we see her in different points of her life in the various short little flashback snippets we see, she gets more and more feminine. If she was a cis woman, this change in appearance would perfectly align with her boxing herself up and molding herself for social expectations to avoid being hurt, rather than her personal desires for how she wants to be. However, if that were the case, she'd be back to being butch in the epilogue, where she's decided to be who she wants to be rather than what society expects she should be. Instead she's more femme than ever. Maya being trans just fits so well with the things she experiences, the things she feels, and the framing of a bunch of things in her life that are left far more vague than Michiru's past is.
Also a bunch of smaller details rather than overarching character analysis: 1) She's flat chested in high school and in the story's present has the biggest bust out of any character in the manga 2) That extremely important high school memory with the Prez is about playing Viola from 12th Night, a girl who has to pretend to be a boy but gets to transform into her true self as a girl at the end. That's a super clear metaphor lol. 3) In between when we last see her as flat chested and a few years later when she's not, she was "overseas" for some time, during which time her parents disowned her by removing her name (the one those parents gave her) from the family registry.
All of this is potentially deniable. But I don't know why anyone would be particularly motivated to bother when it's a better story when all these pieces fit together rather than just being random haphazard details. :P

Jumping in a year late to note the additional circumstantial evidence that the author Shino Torino is trans (or at least a very, very supportive ally)—having included a trans pride flag in their Twitter display name for several years. https://x.com/sino_torino

Rather than Maya's past being left ambiguous, I posit that the way in which the subject is explored in the series is best read as a deep sign of respect from the author to their character. If Maya is a trans woman, she is living completely stealth and the light touch used by the author can be easily interpreted as a quite powerful way to affirm and support both Maya overcoming her past struggles and living her current lifestyle.

This theory does raise a complex issue for continued discussion, however; of how best to tag the series. On one hand there is no direct confirmation of a transgender character in the text of the work and not tagging the series as such could be viewed as a continuation of the author's own philosophy in regards to Maya's character. On the other hand though, including the tag would increase the visibility of the series for those seeking manga with transgender themes and characters and would help cement Ohana Holoholo as one of the only (if not the only) manga with a fully stealth trans character—increasing it's importance in the overall body of LGBT literature.

A possible "transgender subtext" tag could be used as a compromise, but that would still limit the series' overall visibility.

I would personally support this manga being tagged as trans. :)

I stopped by and re-read this manga again.
And.. I like how the characters in this manga could bring forward to their thoughts in speech.
Like they would question "why...?"
And instead of not saying a word and just be silence about it, they reveal their answers and their motif behinds.

And that expands my thoughts about why and be empathetic towards the decision they make.. I guess?

I learn something new .. today.

Am I the only person who finds that, Ohana Holoholo is actually a good manga to be adapted as live series?

The story, the progression, the plots and the characters are ground to earth and relatable.

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It would definitely make a great live action drama, except how on earth are you gonna cast Yuuta? I could only ever really see this adapted as a movie that cuts the plot down to the core focus of Maya, Michiru, and Nico. That wouldn't be bad at all though, honestly I could use less Hidetaka and Mocchi on reread. I could use MORE Prez, I didn't notice last time I read this that she's Maya's first love and that's really fucking cute, but I doubt she'd make it into a movie version at all unfortunately.

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