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freshly baked bread like what rachel makes would be eaten as it

should probably be "as is"?

Also huge shout out to the rye bread Rachel was eating, I buy loaves of that stuff from Lidl and it's so delicious and has like 7-8 grams of fiber per slice too.

She was a baker, she was a miller, can I make it any more obvious?

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freshly baked bread like what rachel makes would be eaten as it

should probably be "as is"?

That page has a few minor grammar issues. The other notable one is "they would dip stale bread soaked in potage or wine". Unsure if they meant "until it was soaked" or if "soaked" slipped it's way in and wasn't corrected on a proof read

I thought she invite her to her room for wink, wink
Well author make a lot research for the pass

It's so beautiful when mangakas research so much and so well on their subjects and explain things like that!!

So things can travel to the past but never to the future? Interesting that time travel in this manga works the opposite way it does in real life.

The catholics eat with their hands thing was new to me, but not terribly surprising

So things can travel to the past but never to the future? Interesting that time travel in this manga works the opposite way it does in real life.

The catholics eat with their hands thing was new to me, but not terribly surprising

At the very least, radio waves can travel both ways, so its not a complete one-way.

this manga got really sad really fast, the bits with her sister are specially sad to me because i'm really weak to the topic of "family of the person isekai'd"

Hmm, so we finally get the answer to how she is having so many modern day technology/appliances. I had assumed there was a portal or a way to get back home for all the stuff she had in chapter 1 unless she was engineer but it seems that was only half correct.
One-way portal...at least she has access to the internet and her sister is seeing her text messages (It said 'Read'- meaning her sister saw her text.) and its seems her sister sometimes might visit person from the portal perhaps...Wonder if sounds can pass through the portal [The sister knows not to go through the portal or else she would be struck so either Onee-chan warn her with a text message or sound can travel through the portal]???

Cheap lighters are like 1 dollar (100 yen) and any useful things (Like Pepper spray or taser) can easily be created or brought by shopping online or checking online information (Books are optional) for how to get electricity to power her home appliances (Hydro or solar power) lol XD

The not eating with spoons makes sense when you think logically since making metal spoons and forks probably cost money for a blacksmith to make at that time period...Good enough to just have a metal pot for cooking and wooden spoon for stirring or eating soup with. The table assembly was a bit new to me but kind of make sense (Saves on room space). There is no reason to have forks and spoon when most people eat bread which can been eaten by hands and soup or spreading sauce with wooden spoon right? If they had rice or spaghetti then a fork and spoon would be real helpful~

Cloth or hair covering for married women is stuff I already knew a very old field trip. Nice to see author research well on many stuff at that time period though like many commentators said.

I wonder if the author will touch on other topics like if a large city will smell good or bad? I think I remember the myth about people throwing their p*op/feces out the window is false and actually wrong information...which if you think makes sense considering if a person just throws it outside from above...then when they walk out of their home they would then see their own po*p...I mean there probably been cases where p*ss was thrown out by some lazy people...Probably would have started lot of fights and complaints from their neighbor and walking people too if they got hit by the p*op lol XD --> The right answer why there was a bad smell in the city was probably due to horse po*p...Horse po*p a lot even when...There are probably city cleaner for that and it pays well but no ones wants to clean up feces...

Though it nice that the MC is having a nice "Relationship" with the new person that came to the village. Maybe one day in the future MC can let her new "friend" visit her time period and sister if they finally figure out how to make things pass both way instead of one way...

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So things can travel to the past but never to the future? Interesting that time travel in this manga works the opposite way it does in real life.

The catholics eat with their hands thing was new to me, but not terribly surprising

Honestly I don't really trust all of this research.

Forks were indeed late. Spoons, not so much. I've never heard of the Church having an opinion on how you eat, unless maybe they had an anti-knife thing for "please stop killing each other at dinner".

I'm impressed that imouto delivered a full-sized fridge through the portal.

their p*op/feces out the window is false and actually wrong information

Also, waste could be valuable. Poop was fertilizer/manure for fields. Pee has industrial uses, for like tanning. People would come and take your waste away for use elsewhere.

Urban filthiness might be more of an Modern period thing, like the 17-1800s, when population grew quickly and faster than the big cities could cope.

She was a baker, she was a miller, can I make it any more obvious?

Yes, because I don't get it.

Middle Ages maiden don't have nipples. Noted.

"Guys, rember to put your spoons facing down, or the demons might get ya". - Catholic Church

Isn't there a translation error with "sauerkraut"? It always says “sauerkraut with pickled cabbage”, but sauerkraut IS pickled cabbage...

rainbow8 posted:

Forks were indeed late. Spoons, not so much. I've never heard of the Church having an opinion on how you eat, unless maybe they had an anti-knife thing for "please stop killing each other at dinner".

The mention of spoons as some kind of "sneakily" used thing is indeed false. There was no significant religious restriction on spoons. The author made that up.

Forks were more controversial. Some religious figures criticized the use of forks in the early Middle Ages as a symbol of decadence, but this wasn't an official Church position.

Using hands to eat was normal, but there was no strict religious requirement to do so. Same thing for the spoon facing down. It wasn't really a thing required by the Church (maybe some local superstition?)

So, I think the author just made stuff up (or read urban legends) and charged the Church as guilty.

Hm...I can't find anything about spoons, only forks.

Edit: Okay, above post might explain it.

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Isn't there a translation error with "sauerkraut"? It always says “sauerkraut with pickled cabbage”, but sauerkraut IS pickled cabbage...

Going by how the author was urging Japanese people to try it, it's probably not common knowledge in Japan that it's made with pickled cabbage.

Nice to know how she ended up there, and these two are still being adorable. ^_^

Also explains how she has managed to install all this modern technology.

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rainbow8 posted:

Forks were indeed late. Spoons, not so much. I've never heard of the Church having an opinion on how you eat, unless maybe they had an anti-knife thing for "please stop killing each other at dinner".

The mention of spoons as some kind of "sneakily" used thing is indeed false. There was no significant religious restriction on spoons. The author made that up.

Forks were more controversial. Some religious figures criticized the use of forks in the early Middle Ages as a symbol of decadence, but this wasn't an official Church position.

Using hands to eat was normal, but there was no strict religious requirement to do so. Same thing for the spoon facing down. It wasn't really a thing required by the Church (maybe some local superstition?)

So, I think the author just made stuff up (or read urban legends) and charged the Church as guilty.

Yeah this chapter felt way more shaky to me on the details. It's hard to prove a negative of course but some of these things just feel off, like Rachel wearing keys on her belt. Locks and keys were specialized very expensive artisan crafts and most peasants have nothing worth that expense to lock up. And would she really bring a knife to church with her? Also feel iffy about her casually eating honey for breakfast at her status, given the labor that goes into harvesting it: as far as I know before the invention of the industrial beehive box in the 19th century honey had to be harvested by destroying the beehive, then waiting for a new bee colony to rebuild for the next harvest. Maybe the author will get into honey production in a later chapter idk.
The stuff about "The Catholic Church says put your spoon face down so demons don't get in it" definitely feels wrong, and with how centralized and dogmatic they were it should be really easy to document if it were true.

Edit: also the author says they "imagine most people drank wine diluted," but I don't think that needs much imagination: wine was essentially a disinfectant used to make safe drinking water for common use. The wine is an additive to stop you from getting dysentery, not the main part of the drink. Drinking undiluted wine was only if you were trying to get drunk, which Rachel probably is not doing at 4am on a Sunday.

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Edit: also the author says they "imagine most people drank wine diluted," but I don't think that needs much imagination: wine was essentially a disinfectant used to make safe drinking water for common use. The wine is an additive to stop you from getting dysentery, not the main part of the drink.

This is in an of itself an extremely common myth that is not true

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1svj1q/comment/ce1r5xw/

Drinking undiluted wine was only if you were trying to get drunk, which Rachel probably is not doing at 4am on a,
Sunday.

this part is very true though

How nice of them not to burn the witch

Diluting wine was a big thing for the ancient Greeks and Romans, dunno when Europe stopped that. Also, again, Germany, more ale than wine. I'd imagine the 4 am Sunday drink would simply have been water.

Edit: also the author says they "imagine most people drank wine diluted," but I don't think that needs much imagination: wine was essentially a disinfectant used to make safe drinking water for common use. The wine is an additive to stop you from getting dysentery, not the main part of the drink.

This is in an of itself an extremely common myth that is not true

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1svj1q/comment/ce1r5xw/

Drinking undiluted wine was only if you were trying to get drunk, which Rachel probably is not doing at 4am on a,
Sunday.

this part is very true though

I don't know if it's a myth as far as if it worked or not, but there are records of people believing mixing wine into water would make it safer and recommending others do it. European sanitation standards were weird as hell for a long time and pretty much all based on superstition.
I'd also be skeptical of "they probably didn't use river water," because why wouldn't you use river water if you've got a river? Most people around the world at the time certainly would, I've researched the intersection of environmental and indigenous histories in the US (I loved working on this topic) and found oral histories from Midwest Indians about getting sick with stomach problems after Europeans moved in upstream from them.