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Hinoka looks real good in a ponytail , makes her give off even more top energy than usual :-P
Voting link:
https://www.cmoa.jp/comic_prize/boy/?appeal2025=258661
So (after voting) I looked through every other category to see if there was any other yuri comics I could support, and couldn't find a single one. Meanwhile there's like a bajillion BL comics, even outside of the explicit category of BL. I know this is just one site/publisher, but is this really representative of the JP manga market as a whole? : /
Edit: Oh, and this keeps being such a cute and comforting low-stakes read.. 1000 more episodes please thank you.
last edited at Oct 13, 2024 3:50PM
Voting link:
https://www.cmoa.jp/comic_prize/boy/?appeal2025=258661So (after voting) I looked through every other category to see if there was any other yuri comics I could support, and couldn't find a single one. Meanwhile there's like a bajillion BL comics, even outside of the explicit category of BL. I know this is just one site/publisher, but is this really representative of the JP manga market as a whole? : /
Edit: Oh, and this keeps being such a cute and comforting low-stakes read.. 1000 more episodes please thank you.
From what I know Yaoi is generally a lot bigger than Yuri
Voting link:
https://www.cmoa.jp/comic_prize/boy/?appeal2025=258661So (after voting) I looked through every other category to see if there was any other yuri comics I could support, and couldn't find a single one. Meanwhile there's like a bajillion BL comics, even outside of the explicit category of BL. I know this is just one site/publisher, but is this really representative of the JP manga market as a whole? : /
Edit: Oh, and this keeps being such a cute and comforting low-stakes read.. 1000 more episodes please thank you.
From what I know Yaoi is generally a lot bigger than Yuri
The BL market is still not infinity times as big as the yuri market. That ratio can't be more than an order of magnitude in the all-ages section, so there should have been at least one or two more yuri (or at least non-het and female-centric) titles in the lineup. But regardless of the relative sizes of the markets, 1 (one) yuri title (and one horror title with a female protagonist) against 58 all-ages het and/or male-led titles (incl. at least 2 BL titles in the "for men" tab!), plus 20 adult het and 20 adult BL titles, is something I find more insulting than not including any yuri works in the lineup at all.
The categories reflect the sections of the CMOA store, but that is not an excuse for this (in fact maybe the rigid and outdated store sections are part of the issue). It's not just yuri that gets completely shat on in this lineup, but basically all stories that aren't either extremely het/misogynistic slop or BL. Of course it's basically just an ad campaign (calling it an award is a bad joke) so it shouldn't be too surprising that artistic quality is not a consideration.
Voting link:
https://www.cmoa.jp/comic_prize/boy/?appeal2025=258661So (after voting) I looked through every other category to see if there was any other yuri comics I could support, and couldn't find a single one. Meanwhile there's like a bajillion BL comics, even outside of the explicit category of BL. I know this is just one site/publisher, but is this really representative of the JP manga market as a whole? : /
Edit: Oh, and this keeps being such a cute and comforting low-stakes read.. 1000 more episodes please thank you.
From what I know Yaoi is generally a lot bigger than Yuri
The BL market is still not infinity times as big as the yuri market. That ratio can't be more than an order of magnitude in the all-ages section, so there should have been at least one or two more yuri (or at least non-het and female-centric) titles in the lineup. But regardless of the relative sizes of the markets, 1 (one) yuri title (and one horror title with a female protagonist) against 58 all-ages het and/or male-led titles (incl. at least 2 BL titles in the "for men" tab!), plus 20 adult het and 20 adult BL titles, is something I find more insulting than not including any yuri works in the lineup at all.
The categories reflect the sections of the CMOA store, but that is not an excuse for this (in fact maybe the rigid and outdated store sections are part of the issue). It's not just yuri that gets completely shat on in this lineup, but basically all stories that aren't either extremely het/misogynistic slop or BL. Of course it's basically just an ad campaign (calling it an award is a bad joke) so it shouldn't be too surprising that artistic quality is not a consideration.
I think this is another case where you're a lot more bitter than I am. I'm just saying that the Yaoi scene is usually far bigger than the Yuri scene, that's all lol
From what I know Yaoi is generally a lot bigger than Yuri
The BL market is still not infinity times as big as the yuri market. That ratio can't be more than an order of magnitude in the all-ages section, so there should have been at least one or two more yuri (or at least non-het and female-centric) titles in the lineup. But regardless of the relative sizes of the markets, 1 (one) yuri title (and one horror title with a female protagonist) against 58 all-ages het and/or male-led titles (incl. at least 2 BL titles in the "for men" tab!), plus 20 adult het and 20 adult BL titles, is something I find more insulting than not including any yuri works in the lineup at all.
The categories reflect the sections of the CMOA store, but that is not an excuse for this (in fact maybe the rigid and outdated store sections are part of the issue). It's not just yuri that gets completely shat on in this lineup, but basically all stories that aren't either extremely het/misogynistic slop or BL. Of course it's basically just an ad campaign (calling it an award is a bad joke) so it shouldn't be too surprising that artistic quality is not a consideration.
Well, that's disappointing. I mean, good for the people and artists that prefer Het/BL; any arts flourishing is good in my eyes... Still. Support your GL artists, folks. Buy translated works via e.g. seven seas entertainment! (Though their new release GL:Other ratio is only very slightly better). Many of the artists also have a fanbox page too.
last edited at Oct 15, 2024 6:05AM
I think this is another case where you're a lot more bitter than I am. I'm just saying that the Yaoi scene is usually far bigger than the Yuri scene, that's all lol
And all I did was expand on the topic with facts and expressed some feelings about it. What's your point?
If it's still not clear why "yaoi bigger than yuri lol" was not helpful but potentially misleading, I'll specify the numbers. In 2020, the BL market was estimated to be about four times the size of the yuri market. Even if we conservatively assume that the BL manga market grew as fast in the last 3-4 years as the total global manga market did (probably no more than 200%, if the graphs google showed me are worth anything), while the yuri manga market stagnated, the ratio would not be more than 10. Not twenty-two, like the two markets are represented in CMOA's "award" lineup.
This only matters if we assume the most cynical selection process for this voting lineup, where only gross market size matters and artistic quality or diversity do not. So 1 yuri title out of 100 (20 of which is the softcore BL porn category) is like cynicism multiplied.
last edited at Oct 15, 2024 11:44PM
Adorable little extras.