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Hope you enjoy this extra Volume 5 bonus!

Guest Artists Featured:
Miman (Yuri Is My Job!)
Iwami Kiyoko (Luminous=Blue, My Girlfriend's Not Here Today)
Mukunoki Nanatsu (Watashi ni Tenshi ga Maiorita!)
Kashikaze (Can't Defy the Lonely Girl)
tsuke (Please Spoil Me, Hinamori-san!)
Takeshima Eku (Whispering You a Love Song)
Yuama (Kimi to Tsuzuru Utakata)
Orihi Chihiro (Chasing Spica)
Utatane Yuu (The Skirt Sings at the Landing)
Manio (Kitanai Kimi ga Ichiban Kawaii)
Usui Shio (Crescent Moon and Doughnuts, Trying Out Marriage With My Female Friend)

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Harumin is definitely popular with the other artists. Can't say I blame them :O

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it's crazy I that immediately recognize someone artstyle

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Matsuri not so subtly hitting on Harumin never gets old.

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Matsuri not so subtly hitting on Harumin never gets old.

harumatsu fans will be happy. but will something sabu develop between harumin and matsuri or we will just have this kind of conversation between the two for years without coming to anything. seeing how the development of the main couple leads ,We will know in another 10 years XD

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joined Jan 6, 2022

Harumastuuuu!! Please let this mean there's gonna be more of them in the next volume

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Blastaar posted:

I would just like to remind anyone who’s wondering why Mei acts so disinterested in sex that she was in a sexually abusive engagement with Amemiya for who knows how long and subsequently took that abuse out on the person she now loves. She probably still doesn’t associate sex with… good things.

Or that could just be my copium headcanon lol

Which indeed it is. There is absolutely zero textual evidence that Mei has ever had sex, let alone was abused multiple times by Amemiya. We do know for sure that he subjected her to an unwelcome semi-public kiss.

But there IS Evidence, as ShoujoCent said, you can see it on the very first chapter, according to my interpretation.... That kiss with the teacher was fucking awful, so when Yuzu was teasing her about enjoying the thrill of it, Mei forcefully kissed her, so Yuzu could understand how bad it feels... But as we all know, it had the opposite effect on Yuzu (and perhaps it was different for Mei too compared to the teacher of course).

But I truly believe that back then, for Mei, there was nothing good about kissing and love... Also I don't believe she and the teacher slept together ever once, but maybe it wasn't the first forced thing he did.


Also yaaaaaaaayyy our Yearly dose of Harumatsu!! see ya all next year for their next interaction xD

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joined Dec 17, 2022

There is going to be so much (more) great tension and teasing if/when Harumin and Matsuri get together.

hahahaha, you don't like harumatsu? honestly At this point, the interaction between Harumin and Matsuri seems more interesting than the main couple, and The interaction in this chapter demonstrates it.

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joined Dec 17, 2022

Oh, they are my favourite pairing by far. I think it would be very fun to see Matsuri slowly win her over.

My apologies, I am not a native English speaker and I misunderstood. Google translate XD Honestly, At first I didn't care if there was harumatsu or not, but at this point, I find Harumin and Matsuri more interesting in some points than the main couple, and if Sabu developed it well, I could give a lot of play in this story. What I don't know is if harumatsu is a game for saboruota, or if he intends to develop it. Regards

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Interesting how Sabu admits in vol 5 afterword wanting to draw a lot more stuff but not having enough time to do it. I wonder what keeps her so busy.

I also wonder what exactly is lesson 48 about to get such a reaction from Yuzu.

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Blastaar posted:

I would just like to remind anyone who’s wondering why Mei acts so disinterested in sex that she was in a sexually abusive engagement with Amemiya for who knows how long and subsequently took that abuse out on the person she now loves. She probably still doesn’t associate sex with… good things.

Or that could just be my copium headcanon lol

Which indeed it is. There is absolutely zero textual evidence that Mei has ever had sex, let alone was abused multiple times by Amemiya. We do know for sure that he subjected her to an unwelcome semi-public kiss.

But there IS Evidence, as ShoujoCent said, you can see it on the very first chapter, according to my interpretation....

That kiss is not "evidence" of anything but itself. We know that happened. It was bad. It certainly could have influenced Mei's behavior towards Yuzu. But it is certainly not evidence that Mei's present behavior can be explained by chronic sexual abuse.

Readers are free to make up any kind of explanation that they want for anything at all--that's the nature of headcanon, so knock yourself out. But there is no textual evidence that Mei has ever had sex. Maybe someday there will be. But there isn't now.

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hahaha 10 years? such a funny joke! hahahah

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I would just like to remind anyone who’s wondering why Mei acts so disinterested in sex that she was in a sexually abusive engagement with Amemiya for who knows how long and subsequently took that abuse out on the person she now loves. She probably still doesn’t associate sex with… good things.

Or that could just be my copium headcanon lol

Which indeed it is. There is absolutely zero textual evidence that Mei has ever had sex, let alone was abused multiple times by Amemiya. We do know for sure that he subjected her to an unwelcome semi-public kiss.

A number of readers have attempted to explain Saburouta’s clumsy and inconsistent characterization by pretending to get inside Mei’s head. If the author wanted to indicate such a motivation for Mei’s current behavior as opposed to the explicit explanations we have been given, she has had ample opportunity to do so.

while i cant exactly defend saburouta's clumsy inconsistent characterization AT TIMES, if you go back and really read the first volume its pretty apparent through mei's behavior towards yuzu that she has been through some shit. the way mei throws herself all over yuzu and completely disregards her boundaries is reason enough to believe that sleezy teacher not only took advantage over her but also completely butchered her perception of what a healthy, consensual relationship is. whether this is just readers head cannons or subtext is unclear as we don't have explicit confirmation BUT its still worth noting. also, citrus is a drama but its also a cute romance as well so the author's reluctance to delve into explicit sexual assault is more than understandable.

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joined May 29, 2021

Also yaaaaaaaayyy our Yearly dose of Harumatsu!! see ya all next year for their next interaction xD

That seems highly optimistic. Wasn’t their kiss in like 2020? And we’ve had like zero follow up since.

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Has it really been 10 years?

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For as much as Citrus gets a bad rap, it honestly was kind of revolutionary. It's popular enough in China that putting a citrus in your work is considered a nod. Consider the artists that were originally in the anthology and now just spent time to make an illustration honoring this and speaking of its influence. Especially those now that those same mangaka are getting anime of their works as well.

Kinda crazy how much things have changed in ten years.

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I would just like to remind anyone who’s wondering why Mei acts so disinterested in sex that she was in a sexually abusive engagement with Amemiya for who knows how long and subsequently took that abuse out on the person she now loves. She probably still doesn’t associate sex with… good things.

Or that could just be my copium headcanon lol

Which indeed it is. There is absolutely zero textual evidence that Mei has ever had sex, let alone was abused multiple times by Amemiya. We do know for sure that he subjected her to an unwelcome semi-public kiss.

A number of readers have attempted to explain Saburouta’s clumsy and inconsistent characterization by pretending to get inside Mei’s head. If the author wanted to indicate such a motivation for Mei’s current behavior as opposed to the explicit explanations we have been given, she has had ample opportunity to do so.

while i cant exactly defend saburouta's clumsy inconsistent characterization AT TIMES, if you go back and really read the first volume its pretty apparent through mei's behavior towards yuzu that she has been through some shit. the way mei throws herself all over yuzu and completely disregards her boundaries is reason enough to believe that sleezy teacher not only took advantage over her but also completely butchered her perception of what a healthy, consensual relationship is. whether this is just readers head cannons or subtext is unclear as we don't have explicit confirmation BUT its still worth noting. also, citrus is a drama but its also a cute romance as well so the author's reluctance to delve into explicit sexual assault is more than understandable.

I don't think readers are quite aware of how much this defense of Mei as an alleged sexual assault victim, if accurate, actually amounts to a scathing indictment of Saburouta as a shitty writer.

Let's stipulate that an unwanted kiss, whether by Rapey-sensei on Mei or by Mei on Yuzu is indeed a form of sexual assault, and that Mei's attitude about physical intimacy initially is not a healthy one--the question at hand is whether Mei's current reluctance to engage in any but the most trivial skinship is primarily due to the psychological trauma of a number of undepicted and unmentioned off-panel sexual experiences which would have occurred prior to the earliest chapters of the first series.

It's a writer's job to establish the motivations of their characters within the text, and we have in fact been told why Mei is acting the way she is toward Yuzu when she says,

"Before marriage, there's dating, and we've only just started. And in order to respond to [Yuzu's] sincerity, I should properly go through the steps from the very beginning."

She goes on to say, "I would be lying if I said I didn't want to touch her, but . . ." then she leaves the rest of the statement hanging. This is all very much in keeping with Mei's overall depiction throughout both series as a hyper-principled rule follower. There has been no suggestion whatsoever that her unpleasant experience with her first fianceé, which was depicted in the first chapter of the first series and has never been recalled or alluded to again, has anything at all to do with her actions nearly 100 chapters (counting specials and extras) later.

There's the further point that the exact same behavior that supposedly has turned Mei into a [semi-autistic] Broken Bird also turned Yuzu from being fully committed to comphet into a gung-ho faux-incestous lesbian pretty much instantaneously, leaving open the question of what exactly the Citrus universe has to say about the consequences of uninvited physical intimacy.

EDIT: I’m editing this to clarify my poorly-expressed point, but leaving the original phrase in so that later responses in the thread make sense.

Trying again: Mei’s emotional responses in Citrus+ have been so repressed that readers have postulated several hypotheses to explain her affect, including that she is a traumatized victim of chronic sexual abuse, a theory which is based on a single scene in the first chapter of the previous series, or that she is profoundly neurodivergent, which is not based on anything in the text. In my view, these are both simply headcanon attempts to rehabilitate the author’s slipshod characterization of what was once the most interesting character in the series.

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There's the further point that the exact same behavior that supposedly has turned Mei into a semi-autistic Broken Bird ...

I have no chicken in the whole rest of the argument but i'd appreciate it if you didn't equate "autistic" to being traumatized or "broken", that's p ableist.

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There's the further point that the exact same behavior that supposedly has turned Mei into a semi-autistic Broken Bird ...

I have no chicken in the whole rest of the argument but i'd appreciate it if you didn't equate "autistic" to being traumatized or "broken", that's p ableist.

I take the point, but the term as applied to Mei is not mine. If you look through the rest of this comment section, you will see that the “autism spectrum” hypothesis is among the several headcanon theories that people have come up with to explain away Mei’s erratic characterization, even though it has even less basis in the text than does the sexual-trauma interpretation.

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That seems highly optimistic. Wasn’t their kiss in like 2020? And we’ve had like zero follow up since.

Yeah, they act as if that kiss never happened. Maybe Sabu tried to start something, only to get cold feet. It's weird in any case.

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I have no chicken in the whole rest of the argument but i'd appreciate it if you didn't equate "autistic" to being traumatized or "broken", that's p ableist.

You know people can be both, right?

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I have no chicken in the whole rest of the argument but i'd appreciate it if you didn't equate "autistic" to being traumatized or "broken", that's p ableist.

You know people can be both, right?

Of course i know that, never said they couldn't. My point was that it's not the same is all. bc god knows there are enough ppl who think autistic ppl are somehow "broken" or "less human" bc they act "robot-like" or some shit

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Matsuri has been more aggressive in approaching Harumin and Harumin has been thinking more about her future since the kiss.

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Matsuri has been more aggressive in approaching Harumin and Harumin has been thinking more about her future since the kiss.

To be fair, for us as readers, it's been two years since the kiss, but within the story, barely 2 months. so I don't think it's regret but rather it's the rhythm of Publication of the work .if there are people criticizing the progress of the main couple and they are the protagonists, then imagine the secondary characters xd

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