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joined Apr 12, 2022

I’m quite familiar with “hentai.” But I run into new manga/anime jargon I don’t know every day.

Okay, I thought so but the way you what you said earlier made me doubt for second. Glad that was clear up because I don't think neither one of us would like to have a conversation on what is a "hentia" lol.

I guess we agree to disagree. I just think there are just too many similarities in this story to a typical NTR/Rape hentia and not say that this story is indeed a NTR/Rape hentia but with less nudity (can't stop bringing up those "hentia" heart sticker pleasure moans from a girl being rape). But again that just my two cents and I understand if others see it differently.

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Cool
joined Apr 4, 2021

What the fucking hell.
Holy shit, the tags ain't lying. Welp that was something.

joined Sep 11, 2019

hides feelings
gets NTR
doesn't hide feelings
still get NTR

How do you win?
But aside from that, this was interesting to say the least despite it going like(?) a typical NTR plot.
I require some vanilla now

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Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Agree for the rape tag, absolutly hated this chapter. No need to have the NTR tag in my opinion.

For some extra context on my thoughts, I was thinking NTR because after she's raped it's heavily implied that her crush is raped in front of her as well. Which feels very NTR to me at least.

I mean, I can see where you come from, but considering that her goal here is not to force them apart, but to force them together, I'm not sure it technically counts as NTR.

That's honestly part of this that I don't get...she said she wanted them to get together...then her actions were to rape one of them, and then invite the other one over and rape her in front of the first girl. So her actions are still very NTR regardless of what she said, plus as others have said it's very much written like an NTR rape story.

Oh, but it does end with her calling the mindbroken Rui to join/replace her in having sex with Kotone. "Granting Rui's wish", as she put it. Not that I'd call it a sane plan, of course.

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joined Mar 25, 2021

Faces are hot. Plot is ehhh.. more confusing and full of holes than the average ntr doujin. I'd probably understand it better if I read the thread and analyzed the chapter more carefully. But I'd rather use my brain thinking about other stuff than trying to understand this chapter.

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joined Jan 5, 2015

I think my GF standards lowered since I read Rapunzel. At Ieast, Rui can see what she's doing. Maria just wants to help.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

Agree for the rape tag, absolutly hated this chapter. No need to have the NTR tag in my opinion.

For some extra context on my thoughts, I was thinking NTR because after she's raped it's heavily implied that her crush is raped in front of her as well. Which feels very NTR to me at least.

I mean, I can see where you come from, but considering that her goal here is not to force them apart, but to force them together, I'm not sure it technically counts as NTR.

That's honestly part of this that I don't get...she said she wanted them to get together...then her actions were to rape one of them, and then invite the other one over and rape her in front of the first girl. So her actions are still very NTR regardless of what she said, plus as others have said it's very much written like an NTR rape story.

Oh, but it does end with her calling the mindbroken Rui to join/replace her in having sex with Kotone. "Granting Rui's wish", as she put it. Not that I'd call it a sane plan, of course.

It's running on really bad Hentai-Logic, where her plan of "getting them together" seems to be that she's going to rape the both of them until they're mentally broken and can only think about sex, while never functioning as proper human beings again. All so the 3 of them can live out their days having sex together. It's why I said earlier we need a "mind break" tag, especially with how she rapes one girl in front of the other. I still think the whole story reads like really bad NTR rape hentai, it doesn't have to be about driving two people apart because I think NTR can also be about a single person dominating and raping a couple/potential couple/crushes, even if they do have a threesome or whatever afterwards. The content is still both parties being raped, and in front of the other party. We might have different definitions of NTR and that's fine, but I still think the tag is appropriate and is a good warning for the type of content in this work.

Especially with the 3rd page (099 I guess), where Rui's crush on Kotone is presented as this cute innocent love. Something that Maria destroys by raping them. That's a big factor for that NTR feeling, and depressing as fuck.

Faces are hot. Plot is ehhh.. more confusing and full of holes than the average ntr doujin. I'd probably understand it better if I read the thread and analyzed the chapter more carefully. But I'd rather use my brain thinking about other stuff than trying to understand this chapter.

I don't think you're missing anything, or need to think about it more. The work is a messy contrived pile of fetishized rape.

I think my GF standards lowered since I read Rapunzel. At Ieast, Rui can see what she's doing. Maria just wants to help.

"Just wants to help", she rapes + mentally breaks both of them. Maria mentally breaks Rui by repeatedly raping her, there's no "sees what Maria is doing". Maria specifically works like a predator by finding out that Rui lives alone and taking advantage of it. So I personally find the logic/justification of "just wants to help" to be extremely gross, as this work is so horrific. A big part of the narrative is that Rui doesn't want to say Kotone's name because she knows if she does Maria will likely rape her as well, and Maria's goal is to force the name out of Rui. This leads deeper into the horror of this story where Rui in a dazed state after being raped numerous times lets Kotone's name slip on accident, which is followed by a feeling of dread and panic from Rui as Maria goes through Rui's phone and invites Kotone over, followed by Maria dragging Kotone inside and raping her just as Rui feared. The narrative is horror and the sex scenes read like fetishized rape.

This is why I personally feel so strongly grossed out by the story. I'm not saying others can't enjoy it, I simply don't like the idea that Maria is "just trying to help", her motivations are nothing good or pure in the slightest. Maria is a psychotic rapist and for me at least there's nothing in the world that can justify her character and actions.

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Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

All so the 3 of them can live out their days having sex together.

I'm not so sure she actually plans to stay around after "helping" them. After all, there are so many other girls out there she can still "help". Can't say I disagree with most else you've said, though.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

All so the 3 of them can live out their days having sex together.

I'm not so sure she actually plans to stay around after "helping" them. After all, there are so many other girls out there she can still "help". Can't say I disagree with most else you've said, though.

Yeah you might be right, regardless it's contrived and nonsense. The thought of her going around "making couples" and leaving a trail of mentally broken rape victims in her wake is disturbing.

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joined Sep 11, 2020

What the fucking hell.
Holy shit, the tags ain't lying. Welp that was something.

Consider yourself lucky, I clicked on it before the tags were added lol it was like, just yuri

But the other chapters had nothing like this at all so it was extra whiplash :P

joined Apr 12, 2022

It's running on really bad Hentai-Logic, where her plan of "getting them together" seems to be that she's going to rape the both of them until they're mentally broken and can only think about sex, while never functioning as proper human beings again. All so the 3 of them can live out their days having sex together.

I'm not so sure she actually plans to stay around after "helping" them. After all, there are so many other girls out there she can still "help". Can't say I disagree with most else you've said, though.

You're both right. I can say with 99% certainty that if there was squeal to this story, it would literally be Rui and Kotone as sex slaves and getting broken/raped more by Maria until all their resistance is gone and they willingly take Maria's sexual abuse/rape with a smile in their face. After that would be when Maria goes after more victims, probably with the help of Rui and Kotone.

I can confidently say that because of Hentai-Logic shown in this story that you see exactly in NTR/Rape hentai and those NTR/Rape Hentai, follow overwhelming, a very formulaic and predictable route with Arcs/sequels which this story would with the same hentia-logic route if the story continue.

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joined Aug 19, 2021

You're both right. I can say with 99% certainty that if there was squeal to this story, it would literally be Rui and Kotone as sex slaves and getting broken/raped more by Maria until all their resistance is gone and they willingly take Maria's sexual abuse/rape with a smile in their face. After that would be when Maria goes after more victims, probably with the help of Rui and Kotone.

Yeah I'm pretty sure most people who read this can guess how much a sequel would look like what you just said. This genre is really ridiculously predictable in addition to being unhealthy the vast majority of the time

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joined May 25, 2020

Let my morbid curiosity win and damn, that was bad.

Like, not only it's barely "ntr" since the two girl weren't even together to begin with and the MC just wanted a "way out" because she thought the other was straight or something but even the "depressing as fuck" part feel forced since the "madona" objective just feel idiotic and forced.

But hey, that just the trend of "ntr" being complete utter shit anytime it appear. Seriously, the porn is bad enough with the fixation on rape and other creepy BS that seem taken out of an incel forum (not helped by how much it play that shit straight, even without rape), it's made worse when people tries to use it to make actual drama. It just scream desperate try hard that had no better idea for their "drama". Or just anything really, even when it's used as a joke like in Okiku-san, you can feel the humour would have been better without it.

Again, it's just beyond baffling how bad that genre is, no matter how it's used. And sorry, I just needed to vent into the void after being reminded of all that shit.

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joined May 1, 2015

After the last work, I was a bit hesitant to click on the new chapter.
This one is actually not bad. Except for everything that happened to MC.
I hope she gets her second chance with short stuff.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

After the last work, I was a bit hesitant to click on the new chapter.
This one is actually not bad. Except for everything that happened to MC.
I hope she gets her second chance with short stuff.

Right? It's kind of crazy how chapter 7 is cute and happy, ends with talks of marriage. Chapter 8 is a fucked up nightmare. Then now chapter 9 is a mom not sure where to go next in life, but her old friend wants to take her hand and take a new step into the future together. So it's like chapter 8's horror is sandwiched right between two pretty cute and normal chapters haha

Dynasty
joined Mar 17, 2022

Man, this chapter really was a swing in the opposite direction
...
I'll show myself out

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joined Dec 7, 2020

My only gripe with this chapter is that Mayu’s shoe isn’t soaring through the air like in the actual painting.

Palucina1
joined May 26, 2020

Instead of losing a daddy, she gets two mommies.

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joined Sep 27, 2017

My only gripe with this chapter is that Mayu’s shoe isn’t soaring through the air like in the actual painting.

Hey now that's dangerous! (joking)

It would be funny to see her "adult panties" (somehow) fly off and hit the woman watching in the face tho :P

joined Oct 11, 2021

Kudos to Mimoto-san for buetiful works as always

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joined Sep 11, 2020

I liked this one more lmao, real cute. I actually had a childhood best friend who was mistaken for a kid all the time, just like that, at the movie theater.

St1
joined Feb 17, 2013

I liked this one- and really like the image of the painting.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Nice to see a little rococo bagatelle helping everyone to get over their “mythic embodiment of the destructive aspects of sexuality is not nice person” disappointment.

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joined Aug 19, 2021

Non-Science Babies?

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Non-Science Babies?

From the tag description:

For works involving mothers of children who are either adopted, from a previous partner, or are part of a found family. Stories with this tag tend to be part of a more realistic setting focusing on a queer family. If magic or technology was used, they would be Science Babies.

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