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joined Jul 29, 2017

Saburuta isn't very strong with chemistry developing, like we can see with Mei and Yuzu, but Harumin and Matsuri don't just have zero chemistry, but negative. At least in my eyes.

Certainly the recent Mei-Yuzu chemistry has been non-existent, but to me the crackling initial sexual chemistry between the two of them was the strongest thing the series ever had going for it (along with some pretty decent, although inconsistent, art/visual storytelling).

Once Mei transformed from Volatile Sexy Mei to Repressed Sincere Mei, all that went away, of course.

I'd be tempted to say that Sabu doesn't know what to do when sexual tension gets resolved, but the Harumin/Matsuri pairing seems like Matsuri trying to create sexual tension and Harumin declining to participate.

joined Jan 14, 2020

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/citrus_june_30th#11

"on read" or "unread"?

There are in fact burgers better eaten with knife and fork. Thick and goopy. Chile's good at them. OTOH I don't think a Japanese fast food burger is likely to be one of them, Mei's probably just unused to peasant food.

shadesofgreymoon
Swxj4ro
joined Jun 5, 2016

Tell me your secrets

Hahahahahahaha, okay, you gave me a wicked good laugh with that for some reason. I really needed one. Thanks!

Mudou%20ayana
joined Oct 29, 2013

Don't know why, but sometimes when I read this I feel like that's a manga version of Teletubbies.

19243370_189319978264256_7134889760776107126_o
joined Dec 26, 2014

So is it me, or page 27 dialogue reads weird? Like it doesn't flow well. I dunno how to explain it.

our translator had a bit of a confusion there. Saburouta has been pretty vague with her dialogues lately and she has some hard time guessing what's going on (at least that's what she tells me cause I don't understand Japanese)
I thought she was talking about Mei first,but Harumi is imagining how Matsuri would respond if she was confronted about her absence only to finally realize that Matsuri is avoiding everyone so she wont get hurt instead of playing her usual mind games

last edited at Sep 21, 2020 5:15PM

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joined Jul 29, 2017

So is it me, or page 27 dialogue reads weird? Like it doesn't flow well. I dunno how to explain it.

our translator had a bit of a confusion there. Saburouta has been pretty vague with her dialogues lately and she has some hard time guessing what's going on (at least that's what she tells me cause I don't understand Japanese)
I thought she was talking about Mei first,but Harumi is imagining how Matsuri would respond if she was confronted about her absence only to finally realize that Matsuri is avoiding everyone so she wont get hurt instead of playing her usual mind games

It's those damn Japanese pronouns (or lack thereof). On the previous page Harumin says:

"All Prez does is magically solve things from afar. Of course she wouldn't understand."

But then on page 27, Harumin continues: "If she responds with something like . . ." But the referent for the pronoun "she" has changed--now it's Matsuri, who we see in the first panel.

English grammar demands that the name precede the pronoun, and the referent doesn't change until we get a new name. (Modernist writers like Faulkner violate that rule all the time, but they're just being bastards when they do.)

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joined Dec 18, 2013

I see that does make a lot more sense. Thanks for the clarification.

That said while seeing the discussion about the chapter in other places, someone mentioned that Harumin was remembering what Matsuri told to her in the extra of the volume 3 of Citrus all those years ago.

last edited at Sep 21, 2020 6:04PM

Capturedsfdsss_x213
joined Mar 16, 2018

Saburuta isn't very strong with chemistry developing, like we can see with Mei and Yuzu, but Harumin and Matsuri don't just have zero chemistry, but negative. At least in my eyes.

Certainly the recent Mei-Yuzu chemistry has been non-existent, but to me the crackling initial sexual chemistry between the two of them was the strongest thing the series ever had going for it (along with some pretty decent, although inconsistent, art/visual storytelling).

Once Mei transformed from Volatile Sexy Mei to Repressed Sincere Mei, all that went away, of course.

I'd be tempted to say that Sabu doesn't know what to do when sexual tension gets resolved, but the Harumin/Matsuri pairing seems like Matsuri trying to create sexual tension and Harumin declining to participate.

That's just what happens when you are replaced with a emotionless hunk of steel and metal.
I have also never really been sold on the Matsuri x Harumin pairing but if it means my girl can finally fucking be allowed to do something and not just be regulated to the background than I'm for it 100%

19243370_189319978264256_7134889760776107126_o
joined Dec 26, 2014

So is it me, or page 27 dialogue reads weird? Like it doesn't flow well. I dunno how to explain it.

our translator had a bit of a confusion there. Saburouta has been pretty vague with her dialogues lately and she has some hard time guessing what's going on (at least that's what she tells me cause I don't understand Japanese)
I thought she was talking about Mei first,but Harumi is imagining how Matsuri would respond if she was confronted about her absence only to finally realize that Matsuri is avoiding everyone so she wont get hurt instead of playing her usual mind games

It's those damn Japanese pronouns (or lack thereof). On the previous page Harumin says:

"All Prez does is magically solve things from afar. Of course she wouldn't understand."

But then on page 27, Harumin continues: "If she responds with something like . . ." But the referent for the pronoun "she" has changed--now it's Matsuri, who we see in the first panel.

English grammar demands that the name precede the pronoun, and the referent doesn't change until we get a new name. (Modernist writers like Faulkner violate that rule all the time, but they're just being bastards when they do.)

My translator had to guess Harumin was talking about Matsuri cause she used "omae"
She wouldn't use that to refer to Mei

Rsz_file_000
joined May 20, 2019

One chapter into this volume and it's already shaping up to be one of the best. We're finally getting some proper development for Harumin, which we haven't really seen since Volume 5 of OG Citrus, and I'm excited to see what we'll be getting from Matsuri. Backstory? Finally being honest about her insecurities?

I also love the detail at the beginning where Harumin just wants to eat wherever her grandmother wants, and Mitsuko says "she should choose once in awhile." Then at the end, Harumin puts her foot down and says "I'm gonna help her, leave this to me Yuzu." I hope Harumin will remain the protagonist of this volume.

And of course, I gotta gush about Mei. Letting Yuzu doll her up, trying that monster of a burger, and giving advice to Harumin... ugh, I love her so much. She really has come a long way with her development. The original, stone-cold Mei never would've done any of those things, at least not out of the good of her heart, and probably would've just disciplined Matsuri instead of trying to help her. She's such a sweet, caring and understanding girl now ^_^

This was one of the best chapters of C+ so far, right up there with Chapter 6 and 8.

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joined Apr 25, 2018

Aaah, seems YuzuMei is declared resolved, but everyone else not yet. So the drama is focused on them instead :D

86690
joined Apr 28, 2019

Harumin is such a babe!!! ouo

joined Mar 29, 2019

Chesty. C'mon Matsuri, go get 'em!

Murcielago_reiko
joined Dec 9, 2019

I love Harumi's image here. She's hot.

Swxj4ro
joined Jun 5, 2016

Anyone else want to see Mei do this:

Cuz I really wanted to see that.

Megumiakipfp%20zoom
joined May 1, 2019

All aboard the HaruMatsuri hype train!

Lewdssss
joined Mar 23, 2019

I must confess, Harumin is the most attractive character in the Citrus series. PROVE ME OTHERWISE!

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joined Mar 6, 2020

Harumin you're so beautiful omg

joined Feb 1, 2017

Right I’m extremely late and only up to June 21st’s chapter but wot the actual fuk is Yuzu doing!!!???? Why the flip is she telling the shorthair girl who already said that she wants to get rid of Mei and expel Yuzu that they are dating!??? When the short hair girl didn’t even say anything about herself, Yuzu spilled out everything!? How is she going to help Mei with this iq lol, she’s only helping the shorthair girl at the moment which is bad for everyone else.... She’s so stupiddddd this drama is so unnecessary urghhhh. If things go wrong and she doesn’t magically change shorthair girls mind thru the power of love and friendship (lol) then it will be a bad ending for her and Mei

Update*
Yup, the power of love and friendship saved the day -.-

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Im%20gonna%20fucking%20cry%20koyuki
joined Nov 5, 2017

i love Haruminnnn

Alcoholism
joined Apr 15, 2017

HaruMatsu let's go!!

Erinyes
joined Jul 28, 2016

Harumi, now it's your chance, go fuck Matsuri good

S129
joined Aug 2, 2015

Harumi changes from outfit
THIS IS BLASPHEMY, HOW COULD YOU NOT BLESS THE WORLD WITH THAT LOOK.

Girl%20with%20a%20black%20cat%20avatar
joined Dec 27, 2015

Harumin is the most beautiful girl in the series by far. So gorgeous ❤️

46-75
joined Jun 25, 2019

That's maybe the only thing she has for her.

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