I saw the latest chapter (3) out elsewhere and it gave me the sooper diabeetus as I sat here (alone) giggling to myself (alone).

It's almost like I (all alone all the time) feel a kindred spirit or something. (JFC I AM SO ALONE)

(JFC I AM SO ALONE)

(No you aren't. You've got us, your fellow Dynasty Readers!).

(JFC I AM SO ALONE)

(No you aren't. You've got us, your fellow Dynasty Readers!).

(Lolno)

(JFC I AM SO ALONE)

(No you aren't. You've got us, your fellow Dynasty Readers!).

(Lolno)

(Jesus, I now feel the urge to, if not go myself, then at least send someone who would pet you, hug you (and maybe cuddle and talk) with you. Tho hopefully there's a much more geographically proximate Dynasty reader here willing to do that???)

xxcindybeexx posted:

BugDevil posted:
I won't downplay your personal experience, I never denied it is possible. It should be mentioned though that you don't need to have someone from your strike zone among your peers to feel attraction. Just watching media with beautiful women in them can have just the same effect. I mean, someone posted an example of someone figuring it out from comics after all.
Porn is not really necessary to reach that conclusion, but I think it's a weird stereotype that girls these days don't watch porn. You know that porn is also a taboo among boys? Adults always try to keep it from all younger people. It doesn't work for either sex. Not with the internet so readily available to most countries these days. And seeing other naked women is actually not very uncommon in Asian countries, so even if porn is highly regulated, there are still lots of opportunities.

I guess what I am getting at is that my original statement still stands: It's unlikely to never experience an episode of attraction until the 20s. Not impossible, not even super rare, but unlikely. At least in this day and age.

edit: And that doesn't mean one figures out what that attraction means or that you are a lesbian.

j/w but how old are you? i mean, maybe for kids just figuring things out TODAY it's just as you say, but--and not to sound old or anything--when i was still in middle school/highschool things definitely weren't this way. back then yes porn was tabboo. and when i was in middle school if you wanted to see anything pornographic on the computer you'd have to wait an hr just for one picture to show up lol. after waiting an hr just to connect online. hell even in HS scanlations were still becoming something new. i had been used to translations that were getting posted online, like reading play scripts, and was absolutely blown away when i first discovered that you could SEE A WHOLE MANGA ONLINE. and saying asians seeing other naked women isn't uncommon is making YOUR own stereotype. not ALL of them visit bath houses. which is i assume largely where they would see other non family member naked women. and it's becoming even less common as time goes on.

and saying you could figure out you're gay just from watching tv is silly. the way you react to something on tv and someone right there is completely different. WAY too easy to pass someone you've only seen on the telly as a simple admiration. it's like...liking a dog cause it's cute, but you don't want to fuck it. hell if it was that easy i woulda figured it out when i was like 6, cause i was WAY more into xena than i knew lol. all i knew was i really really liked the show and liked her, i didn't know WHY.

all in all, we don't really know the time frame the author wants this manga to be, or even if they put much effort other than "modern." because all that old timey sounding situations i grew up in? really wasn't that long ago, i'm only 33. we don't know what her family life was like growing up, what kind of schools she went to, to have missed the signs as she grew up. so saying it's not realistic for her not to know already is being ignorant. i mean i doubt the author even thought beyond that they just wanted their character to have not known yet. i just think saying she should have is silly. maybe she is pansexual. maybe she has a low libido so never reacted strongly enough to someone to recognize it.

@xxcindybeexx: Thanks for sharing your experience. It made me happy and also made me laugh. I think my experience was similar (though it sounds like I discovered the manga a bit earlier, heh).

I was a child in the 90s, one of my peers was verbally harassed and the source of many rumors after announcing her crush on our 6th grade teacher, and I crushed on a number of smart, lanky boys as late as my 20th year.

In fact, the strong crush I experienced on a guy happened when I was 20, but then I was hit by the train that was my first noted female attraction (and crushed on a guy again).

If I hadn't gone to college, I don't know when I would've realized.

Sure, in the years after recognizing I was attracted to women, I could see some of my interest in (older) females earlier in life as crushes, but I didn't view them that way at all at the time. I respected and admired, but that was it. And I was close to people I knew were gay or queer in middle school and high school.

(My fanfiction reading history before and after "the realization" is night and day - romance - all hetero then all wlw.)

Your ability to frame your emotions and interactions is vital; so it is not at all unlikely for someone to reach early or even late adulthood depending on their environment and exposure.

Calling it weird or "out of the ordinary" can feel dismissive an hurt (however unintentional).

I get frustrated sometimes when I read comment with people lamenting how they read more stories treating homosexuality as "normal" or how they're tired of "coming out" stories. They forget (or don't seem to care) that homosexuality being unacceptable or really rare is still the reality for a lot of people. I can understand why people make such comments, but I really like those types of stories (when they're well done) and personally am happy to see any new content for wlw -- especially high visibility and high quality content. (I'm trying to distract myself from the whole month's worth of days between now and Portrait of a Lady On Fire's general release. ｡゜(｀Д´)゜｡)

Many people still don't have regular , high-bandwidth internet access. (Mind-blowing, right?)

Anyway, all I wanted to say was thank you, @xxcindybeexx, for sharing your experience, and I'm still really curious as to how this story will unfold. (It feels honest, raw and ...painful. I'm here for it. ..for now ^^ ;)

P.S. I'm not a porn fan, but how that is treated with respect to girls watching it versus boy is just one of the many still strong sex/gender-based double-standards. Progress feels as slow as ever some days. :D

P.P.S. I didn't have celebrity crushes until after "the realization". And it was a phase that came and went quickly, it seems. (Why hang up on someone so far removed from my life.) I think that just a part of accepting those "I went to see the movie because I'm attracted to them" moments/biases.

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I saw the latest chapter (3) out elsewhere and it gave me the sooper diabeetus as I sat here (alone) giggling to myself (alone).

I can see why.

hell if it was that easy i woulda figured it out when i was like 6, cause i was WAY more into xena than i knew lol.

LOOOOL I had the same thing, only I was like 15 or 16. I didn't realize till much later just why I privately shipped Gabrielle and Xena so hard XD. (And that I totally had a crush on Gabrielle.)

because all that old timey sounding situations i grew up in? really wasn't that long ago, I'm only 33.

Yuuup. I'll be 41 in a couple months. Our generation is one awash in incredibly rapid massive social and technological change that no other generation has been privy to.

If I hadn't gone to college, I don't know when I would've realized.

For me it was starting to play World of Warcraft. I met people online who were LGTBQ and they helped me to admit to myself things I'd kept buried. So one could say that a Night Elf Death Knight came and kicked my ass outta that closet that I was in so deeply that I was almost in Narnia. (And literally became my name, too--for almost 10 years now, I no longer go by my legal first name, I go by Grey, which is a shortened form of my Wow avatar's name, "Greymoon". Also, see my forum name. ;) )

Just thought I'd share, lol. This is why I eat up these stories about adult yuri situations, because they are closer to me personally than the bulk of them that are about teens. And this story in particular hits me close to home because I too live alone, etc etc, hence my previous joking.

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It’s getting mutual folks( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

The little sister may ship them. Cute!

Thats a small smal

shedsofgreymoon posted:

Just thought I'd share, lol. This is why I eat up these stories about adult yuri situations, because they are closer to me personally than the bulk of them that are about teens. And this story on particular hits me close to home because I too live alone, etc etc, hence my previous joking.

Thanks for sharing. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧ ✧ﾟ･: *ヽ(◕ヮ◕ヽ)

This story is so real, ha-ha. The ending of chapter three, when the MC cleaned her room as one of the things "[she is] able to do", really hit. Life, man...

I love the sisterrrr so much!! seriously, when they started talking I didn't know what to do with my body and my brain, I felt like I was going to explode hahahaha.
The ship has been blessed by imouto... you might depart now!!!
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Of course, even if most of the chapter was pure bliss, we still got to see more of Uno's situation, even her mother is pressuring too, from all the things she lived so far she was going directly into a path of destruction... But yuri is gonna save her! ....right?

I hope this becomes a hit in Japan and a lot of women in her situation can feel related and avoid the bad ending, that's why it's great that they're adult, if they were in high school some people might think "it's just a phase"

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Such a great story. I hope the MC can find happiness... and yuri.

Hoooly shit. This is incredibly relatable. Even beyond the yuri, this is like, such an excellent representation of executive dysfunction and the difficulties of interacting with society while being neurodivergent (I literally don't give the slightest fuck whether any of you think they're neurodivergent at not, please don't start an argument, it's that it rings true to my experiences with that). This is really hitting me different, I quite love it so far.

Hoooly shit. This is incredibly relatable. Even beyond the yuri, this is like, such an excellent representation of executive dysfunction and the difficulties of interacting with society while being neurodivergent (I literally don't give the slightest fuck whether any of you think they're neurodivergent at not, please don't start an argument, it's that it rings true to my experiences with that). This is really hitting me different, I quite love it so far.

You need to get out of my head. ~_^

This is really cute I’m enjoying this

The MCs of your romance story are too passive/shy/closeted/whatever so that there’s no progress. Solution: introduce another character.
The bad way: introduce a nuisance rival to create a love triangle.
The good way: introduce a relative/friend that ships them.

At first, I thought the little sister thought that Uno was a guy when she was listening to Satou talk about her. I was pleasantly surprised when the little sister showed no surprise that Uno was a girl, and she even invited Satou to eat dinner with them (and seemed to ship them even harder).

This really is plucking at my heart strings, it hurts how much I can relate, but in other news IMOUTO SAN IS HERE TO SHIP!

My adoration for the sister is boundless.

The wing-imouto be like: "Gender is a triffling matter in the face of love. This ship shall sail."

bubbleteabird posted:

At first, I thought the little sister thought that Uno was a guy when she was listening to Satou talk about her. I was pleasantly surprised when the little sister showed no surprise that Uno was a girl, and she even invited Satou to eat dinner with them (and seemed to ship them even harder).

Yeah, well is her sister so she probably knew already or had strong suspicions

I dunno if imouto knew for sure that Uno was female, because of the way she accented saying her name when she picked up her badge; that makes it seem like she's basking in an unexpected but pleasant discovery to me. But I also think she doesn't give a hoot either way and is just happy that nee-san is actually showing interest in someone rather than focusing everything on her job and caring for imouto.

You can tell big sis has basically isolated herself in her endeavor to take care of and raise her sister after their parents passed.

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I dunno if imouto knew for sure that Uno was female, because of the way she accented saying her name when she picked up her badge, but I think she doesn't give a hoot either way and is just happy that nee-san is actually showing interest in someone rather than focusing everything on her job and caring for imouto. You can tell she basically has isolated herself in her endeavor to take care of and raise her sister after their patents passed.

So the thing about the way Subaru says her name is that, in the raws, when Subaru says "Uno-san", it's written in katakana rather than hiragana. I'm not the translator so I can't comment on the specifics of why - but I believe sometimes katakana is used for writing native Japanese words for emphasis, or to indicate a difference in tone, or an unfamiliarity with the language, etc.. In this case, we kind of interpreted it as her saying it in a "teasing" way, as she is generally pretty mischievous, and we decided that emphasizing it was the best way to convey that.

Regarding if she knew Uno-san was a girl - no idea. It's ambiguous in the native text, I believe.