This is insufferable

that credit page is so accurate

I’m from Ph and my dialect is visayan so if anyone understand this. Thank you!

Pisting giatay og wa na gani ganahi sa palibot layas najud dli kay magdahom paka ana nga gugma maskin ikaw mismo looy na kaayo ka. Ambot jud og nganung naay mnhid sa kalibutan. Ako ana bhala na layas na mangitag kag laen dghan gwapa girl dli ra siya. Pag move on bahalag sakit.

^ Despite knowing no Filipino, I still took a shot at reading it, just to see if I can pronounce everything

^ Despite knowing no Filipino, I still took a shot at reading it, just to see if I can pronounce everything

There is no "Filipino" language, BV. That appears to be Cebuano aka Bisaya.

^ Despite knowing no Filipino, I still took a shot at reading it, just to see if I can pronounce everything

There is no "Filipino" language, BV. That appears to be Cebuano aka Bisaya.

They also speak English. That might help.

how to make decisions 101

Clueless1 posted:

Clueless1 posted:

Now we have at least four more chapters till this storyline resolves.

That's so kind of you. You assume it'll get resolved.

Ah, yes, I’ve forgotten profit motive over the story. Foolish me, I thought it was the mangaka’s desire to present a great story in brevity, rather than a never ending story with profits.

I actually meant more that this story has a bad track record of not resolving most of its conflicts.

oh baby , kaoru loves our mc and is delusional and lies about wanting a kid , can i just kill reichi off ? i think this missunderstanding is because of him , in many ways and he's fucking cheating ...

Clueless1 posted:

Clueless1 posted:

Now we have at least four more chapters till this storyline resolves.

That's so kind of you. You assume it'll get resolved.

Ah, yes, I’ve forgotten profit motive over the story. Foolish me, I thought it was the mangaka’s desire to present a great story in brevity, rather than a never ending story with profits.

I actually meant more that this story has a bad track record of not resolving most of its conflicts.

True dat

can i just kill reichi off ?

Well, it’s not good to kill people, but if it should happen when I’m not looking, I really wouldn’t know anything about that.

BTW, I’m going to be looking over in another direction for quite some time. Just FYI.

It still looks like the author has decided to speed things up. This chapter happens the day after the chapter where uta goes, if the next one continues in this way, we could finally understand the details of the cheating of reii and risako and really know what kaoru will want to do....
Several possibilities that she really wants a child but that depends on her reii too and it is the key for me to their break-up or not.
I would be surprised if risako pushes kaoru to have a child innocently. I really think behind her sweet smiles is a calculating bitch.

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Idk why I do this to myself the title literally says unrequited and here I am like maybe just maybe she has a shot between this and life with my brothers wife I’m all angest out.

Idk why I do this to myself the title literally says unrequited and here I am like maybe just maybe she has a shot between this and life with my brothers wife I’m all angest out.

You know you might have a point there. This could actually be about Kaoru's unrequited love. It seems to me that Reichi never actually loved her, he might've literally just married her because she was there. As soon as Kaoru stopped providing him everything he wanted he just went to find someone who would and then Risako just seized on that. Whether because she actually wanted Reichi or because she's punishing Kaoru for not choosing her.
So it could happen that Kaoru and Uta end up together, or I'm thinking about this way too deeply and trying to convince myself this isn't going to be a flaming train wreck of an ending.

So it could happen that Kaoru and Uta end up together, or I'm thinking about this way too deeply and trying to convince myself this isn't going to be a flaming train wreck of an ending.

Does this actually feel like it’s even remotely close to an ending?

Comparing this to the opening of the story, what exactly has changed for the MCs?

• Kaoru has been given (strong, almost certain) reason to believe that Reiichi is cheating on her with Risako.

• Uta has confessed to Kaoru and moved out to live with her mother.

Possibility #1: the established pace of events remains constant. Whatever the outcome, that suggests at least twice as many chapters as we’ve had already.

Possibility #2: something suddenly happens to push the plot elements quickly toward resolution. Given the execution of the story so far, what could possibly go wrong with that?

Idk why I do this to myself the title literally says unrequited and here I am like maybe just maybe she has a shot between this and life with my brothers wife I’m all angest out.

You know you might have a point there. This could actually be about Kaoru's unrequited love. It seems to me that Reichi never actually loved her, he might've literally just married her because she was there. As soon as Kaoru stopped providing him everything he wanted he just went to find someone who would and then Risako just seized on that. Whether because she actually wanted Reichi or because she's punishing Kaoru for not choosing her.

Risako is punishing Kaoru for not choosing her, and so is having sex with this dude since high school? Good grief. Crazy 101.

BTW after reading this ch, it's clear to me no matter if Reiichi is cheating or not, or if he was out with Risako or not while Kaoru was shopping, what's CERTAIN is that Risako is pushing Kaoru to break up with Reiichi, by making her ask for a baby, which will, of course, make Reiichi backtrack from the relationship since he doesn't actually love her.

Also I agree with some now, that Kaoru does seem to have some massive subconscious crush on Uta. Her feelings and internal dialogue are not those of someone who is just missing her "little sister".

BTW after reading this ch, it's clear to me no matter if Reiichi is cheating or not, or if he was out with Risako or not while Kaoru was shopping, what's CERTAIN is that Risako is pushing Kaoru to break up with Reiichi, by making her ask for a baby, which will, of course, make Reiichi backtrack from the relationship since he doesn't actually love her.

interesting; hadn't thought of it that way, but you make a good point.

say what you will about the plot/content/etc, but i think it shows that the author is pretty good at writing characters if we can all see so much deeper than whats on the page. it's rare that an author can consider the motivations of each character, rather than just using them to move the story along.

there are plenty of debates in these forums, but its not all that often that the subject of the debates is the intentions of the characters.

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what's CERTAIN is that Risako is pushing Kaoru to break up with Reiichi

thank god somebody is trying to knock some sense into this bitch if this turns out to be true then i fuck with risako

Also I agree with some now, that Kaoru does seem to have some massive subconscious crush on Uta. Her feelings and internal dialogue are not those of someone who is just missing her "little sister".

That’s pretty much where the story started out: Kaoru and Uta were much more emotionally attached than Kaoru and Reiichi were, and Kaoru habitually used Uta as a substitute for her brother.

I mean, the two of them go to the amusement park on Kaoru and Reiichi’s first wedding anniversary, Kaoru gives Uta a necklace on the top of the Ferris wheel in an almost-kiss scene, and they walk home holding hands in Chapter 1. Then in Chapter 3 Kaoru starts a (culturally highly unusual) greeting-and-goodbye hugging skinship ritual. Basically, almost everybody in the story remarks on how unusually close Kaoru and Uta are, and how much the older woman depends on Uta.

But Kaoru seems to become less self-aware about her feelings toward Uta as the story goes on, and it really doesn’t help that we get long stretches with the Cafe Clique that have nothing to do with their relationship at all.

Even assuming that this is supposed to be a tragic story of Uta’s ultimately unrequited love (as the title suggests), having Kaoru either entirely oblivious or stuck in denial doesn’t really advance the ball in that particular direction either.

At this point I not only can’t see what story this wants to tell, I don’t quite see how it gets to any satisfying conclusion except, “Thank God Uta got away from those two fucking idiots.”

@runrin: I don’t think the characters are particularly deep; I just think the characters’ motivations aren’t clear because the writing is muddled.

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I’d say Kaoru is currently missing her husband; Uta basically fulfilled all of Kaoru’s needs (other than the sexual ones) and now Kaoru is realizing that she had a de facto husband alongside her de jure one.

The only displays of romantic affection from Reiichi I can remember are their date for Kaoru’s birthday and Reiichi trying to get a Christmas Eve nookie and getting turned down; for the former, he initially blew her off because of work, and even then, Reiichi only kissed Kaoru because she was practically begging for affection. Reiichi may be aloof, but at this point I’m inclined to believe he is completely uninterested in Kaoru despite caring for her.

Regarding Risako, I just can’t read her as malicious enough to want to harm anyone directly. My reading of her intentions lies more along “Kaoru and Reiichi are married, if they can go on to form a happy family and live happily ever after then that’s great. I’ll just steal Reiichi away from time to time for a date, or maybe even a small holiday, not like there’s much difference between staying late for work and going on a business trip anyway.”

Uta basically fulfilled all of Kaoru’s needs (other than the sexual ones)

when the hell will uta fulfill that need too i need my time skip already

BTW after reading this ch, it's clear to me no matter if Reiichi is cheating or not, or if he was out with Risako or not while Kaoru was shopping, what's CERTAIN is that Risako is pushing Kaoru to break up with Reiichi, by making her ask for a baby, which will, of course, make Reiichi backtrack from the relationship since he doesn't actually love her.

Thing is... that's your headcanon. Can't use that as evidence for further theorizing.
Kaoru already talked about wanting a baby way before all of this shit went down. Reiichi was already aware of that.
You have literally no proof Reiichi would say no to having a kid.
There are even scenes that make it hard to deny that Reiichi does love Kaoru at least to some degree. Whether it's more of a familial love or romantic is even less clear.

Also I agree with some now, that Kaoru does seem to have some massive subconscious crush on Uta. Her feelings and internal dialogue are not those of someone who is just missing her "little sister".

But then again, you have to consider Kaoru is emotionally unstable and direly needs anchors to hold on to. Uta being someone who is always there for her was a big emotional pillar. Just acting like that has to be romantic interest is a leap. I'm not saying that she does not have secret feelings, because I also saw a couple of hints (especially her initial reaction to the confession). but that's just one possibility and might not even be relevant.

But Kaoru seems to become less self-aware about her feelings toward Uta as the story goes on,

Kaoru was never self-aware of such feelings. The first chapters actually prove that more . Her complete obliviousness towards how strange and misleading her actions with Uta were is only more proof that she never saw Uta that way. After Uta confessed she had a strong kneejerk reaction, because she does genuinly love Reiichi (I really don't understand how anyone can question that she at least did initially. Whether she is falling out of love or whatever doesn't really matter).
Let's not forget that Kaoru and Reiichi were already together before Uta moved in with them and she didn't seem to have issues back then.

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1. Don’t go talk shit to the author what is wrong with you! ( that person who did it) it’s the same that happend to WDTFS .. started telling her that she should be grateful someone is translating her work illegally.. SMH! You should never ever tell the author that their work is bad or to hurry the fuck up. As he/she said in the introductions this is their first long manga? Or maybe the first ever and he/she wanted to make this a good one, and motivation was something he/she wasn’t good at i think. So when people tell them shit like that we won’t get much more in the end. Think of about the consequences.

2. My Opinion is that i think overall this story is going good so far, we can’t get what we want it’s for the author to decide, we can talk this out and make theory’s, but i whatever the author decides is up to them. As long as i get to see the progress i’m happy and i still have something to read i’m good!

3. People who keeps saying i have no hope in this, and dropped it.... why are you making people triggered? If you dropped it you are welcome to comment, but i hope you read it least to come and make hell in the comment section.

4. The author is not slow, good stuff takes time in my opinion, have most of the people here even tried drawing different expressions and positions and so on? It’s fucking difficult! I know this all to well. Not only do you have to think about story, but placements and where to put the writing. Then it’s needless negative people who’s sending feedback about not liking it and don’t like how it progressed and so on.. and the can feel down about such feedbacks, and lose all motivation! Like i said at first.. think about the consequences.....

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Kaoru was never self-aware of such feelings. The first chapters actually prove that more . Her complete obliviousness towards how strange and misleading her actions with Uta were is only more proof that she never saw Uta that way. After Uta confessed she had a strong kneejerk reaction, because she does genuinly love Reiichi (I really don't understand how anyone can question that she at least did initially. Whether she is falling out of love or whatever doesn't really matter).
Let's not forget that Kaoru and Reiichi were already together before Uta moved in with them and she didn't seem to have issues back then.

I agree with this. I just think people want to see something gay happening and start grabbing on straws. Of course it's not impossible for it to happen because that's a story and author can bend and stretch it however they like, but so far Kaoru has shown a very straight type of feelings for Uta. She loves her yes, but sexually or romantically? I don't see that at all.
And if they end up together, I'll think she did it out of desperation, considering she lost Reiichi first. She just is that type of person. She even is willing to keep getting cheated in order to keep Reiichi, so why not be with someone who she loves as a family, as long as she gets to not be alone.