Breaking up because of such a trival thing. This girl is nuts.

I only care about Amane at this point. Fuck kou and nene, as well as senpai.

Same tbh

That would probably actually help if great mental health support was that easy to come by.

I'm not sure she's at the point of needing a shrink, but I think even talking to a friend about it would have helped. Instead, she decided to run away which is NEVER the right answer to your problems.

That's just plain horrible advice.

Not really. At the very least she should voice her mind about how uncomfortably she feels that they're telling her she shouldn't smile. It's because she bottled up her dissatisfaction that it ended up becoming a larger issue.

Agreed. That seems to be one of the things she was trying to minimize, but at the very least she could have handled the break up much better, while she gave herself some time to sort things out.

She shouldn't have broken up to begin with. She's just running away, and I will say it again and again, running away is never the right answer. You have to face your problems or they will just get worse.

Almost as if she'd been emotionally abused from a young age...

We know, but it doesn't make her actions any less disturbing and wrong.

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I wonder what kind of luck Amane have to get surrounded by these people. When we all waiting for the reason why Nene broke up with her so we can atleast lower the hate towards her, but it turns out cuz of such reason, wtf is wrong with you.

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As far as the "cutting ties for your own good" trope goes, I think this one had one of the better reasons behind it, since the problem was Nene's own terrible feelings-- which she was promptly disturbed by. There was no outside influence, just Nene's own complex she's got to face for this to work out, I think that's pretty good.

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As far as the "cutting ties for your own good" trope goes, I think this one had one of the better reasons behind it, since the problem was Nene's own terrible feelings-- which she was promptly disturbed by.

Cutting ties with Amane doesn't solve anything. The problem is not Amane to begin with. Nene had issues from before she met Amane. She has to face those issues.

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That would probably actually help if great mental health support was that easy to come by.

I'm not sure she's at the point of needing a shrink, but I think even talking to a friend about it would have helped. Instead, she decided to run away which is NEVER the right answer to your problems.

Never is a strong word. Talking to a friend... Like the way Amane talked to her senpai? Communication is a skill, not a method. Sometimes talking about things you don't understand can exacerbate the issue. You have an optimistic outlook, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, but I think you are simplifying the situation greatly.

That's just plain horrible advice.

Not really. At the very least she should voice her mind about how uncomfortably she feels that they're telling her she shouldn't smile. It's because she bottled up her dissatisfaction that it ended up becoming a larger issue.

Telling her employers to "fuck off" would not have helped her situation in any way.

Agreed. That seems to be one of the things she was trying to minimize, but at the very least she could have handled the break up much better, while she gave herself some time to sort things out.

She shouldn't have broken up to begin with. She's just running away, and I will say it again and again, running away is never the right answer. You have to face your problems or they will just get worse.

Distancing yourself from a situation and gaining a new perspective on things can be very beneficial. If she didn't want to be in a relationship at the time then she shouldn't have been in one. Simple as that. Still, emotionally manipulating Amane during the break up was a mistake. Being honest with her and asking her to understand that she has things she needs to sort out would've been a better move.

You're looking at everything from the perspective of an observer rather than a participant. It seriously distorts the complexity of the situation.

Almost as if she'd been emotionally abused from a young age...

We know, but it doesn't make her actions any less disturbing and wrong.

I never said it did, did I?

Never is a strong word. Talking to a friend... Like the way Amane talked to her senpai?

Yes. Her senpai being a nasty piece of work doesn't change anything. Talking to someone when you're dealing with shit can be pretty helpful all the same.

Telling her employers to "fuck off" would not have helped her situation in any way.

"Fuck off" was just an expression. The idea was that she shouldn't bottle up her feelings. She should voice her dissatisfaction and frustration, specially to the people who literally make her feel that way.

Distancing yourself from a situation and gaining a new perspective on things can be very beneficial.

That wouldn't help because her problem actually has nothing to do with Amane. She had issues from before she met Amane, and she would continue to bear those issues even if Amane wasn't around anymore. Nothing will change for her until she makes some effort to get over her shit.

If she didn't want to be in a relationship at the time then she shouldn't have been in one.

Except we know she did want to be in a relationship. She broke up just because she was running away.

I never said it did, did I?

But you think that way or you wouldn't feel the need to bring it up.

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Love yourself before you love someone else, I guess.

But you think that way or you wouldn't feel the need to bring it up.

This is where I realize discussion was pointless from the beginning and drop out.

Yes, as expected a stupid reason. Inferiority complexes are such a pain. I think this just makes Nene seem worse to be honest. The only reason she likes Kou and doesn't have those same negative feelings for her is because Kou stands behind the camera and won't be looked at like Amane would... Irrational feelings are irrational.

Kou sure has interesting methods to confront someone though. Pinning her down and almost kissing her was really necessary to ask her a question...?

Well... now we have a reason for senpai to be the actual antagonist, because now whoever wins the contest decides how these relationships are going to work out. It's really stupid to tie the resolution to winning a contest Kou. That was a pretty bad move.
Then again, this is an artsy story, so it's all about the poetic justice.

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^ I think it would be better if Senpai won the contest. I'd like to see what Nene would feel if she found out Senpai won with a picture of a suffering Amane that she took thanks to Nene breaking her heart. Would Nene finally feel some remorse for what she has done? Would she feel regret that she pushed Amane towards someone who doesn't really care about her and just wants to use her suffering for her own convenience?

Nene has to talk with Amane and make amends, but rather than doing so because Kou's picture won, I'd like her to do it because she realized it's the right thing to do. That's why Senpai should win the contest.

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^ I think it would be better if Senpai won the contest. I'd like to see what Nene would feel if she found out Senpai won with a picture of a suffering Amane that she took thanks to Nene breaking her heart. Would Nene finally feel some remorse for what she has done? Would she feel regret that she pushed Amane towards someone who doesn't really care about her and just wants to use her suffering for her own convenience?

Nene has to talk with Amane and make amends, but rather than doing so because Kou's picture won, I'd like her to do it because she realized it's the right thing to do. That's why I think Senpai should win the contest.

Aha... yeah that would also be poetic justice in a way... It would also prolong the drama unecessarily, but that's what these soap operas are all about.

But the fancy schmancy artistic idea behind this story is "pictures show the true emotions" and thus what Kou's camera captured has to be the truth that triumphs over the manipulative piece senpai created. That's just how this has to go down thematically speaking, but I'm not opposed to getting surprised for once.

^Both possible developments are having their charm. But if senpai win it’ll be more interesting, because Nene will need to talk with Amane by her own will.

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Did I just fucking witness a sunken ship be pulled out of the water?

Did I just fucking witness a sunken ship be pulled out of the water?

They just repurposed it into a submarine.

Did I just fucking witness a sunken ship be pulled out of the water?

They just repurposed it into a submarine.

Hopefully, none of the other combatant ships is a destroyer.

Well... now we have a reason for senpai to be the actual antagonist, because now whoever wins the contest decides how these relationships are going to work out. It's really stupid to tie the resolution to winning a contest Kou. That was a pretty bad move.

I'm pretty sure Nene will do it regardless of the result

Well... now we have a reason for senpai to be the actual antagonist, because now whoever wins the contest decides how these relationships are going to work out. It's really stupid to tie the resolution to winning a contest Kou. That was a pretty bad move.

I'm pretty sure Nene will do it regardless of the result

Making the entire promise even more pointless.

Well... now we have a reason for senpai to be the actual antagonist, because now whoever wins the contest decides how these relationships are going to work out. It's really stupid to tie the resolution to winning a contest Kou. That was a pretty bad move.

I'm pretty sure Nene will do it regardless of the result

Making the entire promise even more pointless.

Hey, if you take stupid and pointless decisions off the table, this story isn’t going to have much left to work with.

Well... now we have a reason for senpai to be the actual antagonist, because now whoever wins the contest decides how these relationships are going to work out. It's really stupid to tie the resolution to winning a contest Kou. That was a pretty bad move.

I'm pretty sure Nene will do it regardless of the result

Making the entire promise even more pointless.

No, the promise is that it's Kou who will tell the truth if they win not Nene but ultimately Nene will build strenght and wanna tell herself. I don't say that right now she will said no matter what happen. I said that when they saw the results and they (probably) lost, Nene will say "Screw it, i'm gonna tell her anyway"

No, the promise is that it's Kou who will tell the truth if they win not Nene but ultimately Nene will build strenght and wanna tell herself. I don't say that right now she will said no matter what happen. I said that when they saw the results and they (probably) lost, Nene will say "Screw it, i'm gonna tell her anyway"

No, actually. The promise is that if Kou's picture wins Nene and Kou will go to Amane and Nene will tell her the truth. It was never Kou.

All I'm saying is that this stupid promise and contest are irrelevant to the situation and they could just go to Amane right away. This is all just for the sake of making things more poetic.

Ah Kou is best girl.
As flawed Nene is, all this is inform by her life experience and she's not social unlike Amane, so her not telling Amane is well teenage thoughts and hoping to spare Amane from her nastier side would grow.
I would say modelling is the issue but Nene loves it.

Last thing about Nene, simplifying her moderate love for Kou to her position of camera girl is cheap and unfair since for her Kou is a different person though Amane issue is a barrier. Kou's the hopeful girl in Nene's eyes.

No, actually. The promise is that if Kou's picture wins Nene and Kou will go to Amane and Nene will tell her the truth. It was never Kou.

OK, that was me who remember it wrong.

All I'm saying is that this stupid promise and contest are irrelevant to the situation and they could just go to Amane right away. This is all just for the sake of making things more poetic.

It's not fun when you solve problems right away. Better drag it a little bit so we can make things more awkward. Like,how Nene and Kou are suposs to actin front of Amane right now ? Did they still gonna put the GF act orwill they drop it ? Did Nene still gonna try to be a bitch to Amane now she promise to tell her the truth ?

Last thing about Nene, simplifying her moderate love for Kou to her position of camera girl is cheap

As cheap as Nene's attempt to replace Amane with Kou is I'd say.

It's not fun when you solve problems right away. Better drag it a little bit so we can make things more awkward. Like,how Nene and Kou are suposs to actin front of Amane right now ? Did they still gonna put the GF act orwill they drop it ? Did Nene still gonna try to be a bitch to Amane now she promise to tell her the truth ?

I'd bet she will try to avoid her 100% of the time now. Maybe Amane being so distraught will lead to her not clinging to them as much either.
It sure would be helpful to know when that contest will actually be concluded.

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