Oh and is it wrong that I still ship Nene and Amane?

Showing pictures and pointing out that Amane don’t have a chance is not nice but understandable. And then she go full psycho with: “Yes, suffer! Be mine!” Not like: “I am sorry that I’m hurting you but you need to know, you need to change”. Another manipulative psycho and Amane deserve better than this.

Nene and Kou – I’m not sure what author wants to tell. Are Nene using Kou or she genuinely like her?

People here is like, I like Amane because she’s so pity, she deserves somebody else. She’s the best character.... lol.

It might not be the end couple but I like Kou x Nene.

And that senpai, crazy obsessive bitch.

I don't think people still want nene to go back to amane, at this point, all us amane fag just want her to cut ties with these girls and be happy, it would be hilarious when nene confessed why she broke up with her, then she will be like "no fuck you, i'm done with you" like the statement of one peepo in early comments.

I don't get why you all blame Nene. She isn't forced to give a reason for breaking up it might as well be true that she doesn't like her anymore which is a fine reason. Staying friends was Amane's choice.

Well, personally I think Nene is rather cruel in the way she stays friends. I just dislike her, I guess. But yeah, you can't blame someone for falling out of love with someone. If that was the reason they broke up, I'd actually give Nene kudos. Because it requires a lot of strenght to actually break up and not let an unhappy relationship just continue.

And Amane is pitied because she has like no control over shit. She is unlucky in love and handles it not well. And then she is manipulated by some psycho who wants her to be unhappy so she'll be dependent on her... It's not what I want to happen to anyone, lol.

How is Nene "rather cruel in the way she stays friends"? She has her reason for wanting to break up, whether that's simple falling out of love, jealousy, or manipulation, and it is valid. Amane refuses to consider her feelings and keeps trying to make moves on someone who obviously doesn't want it. It's rude, clingy, and obsessive.

Amane needs to grow up and realize that if she wants Nene to treat her better she needs to cut that shit out. It's obvious the break up hurt Nene too, and all she's doing is pouring salt in the wound.

well, telling someone they can kiss her, but then she will hate them, when she knows that said people have feelings for her is rather rude, as well. Talking about rubbing salt in the wound. There is simply not THE ONE to blame
(well except psycho-senpai, I'm gonna start blaming her for everything)

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Kou and Nene faction, rise up!

ugh, backstabbing bitch. Amane is best girl and yet... :(((

With you on that one.

"I didn't mean …" - yes you damn well did. I really don't like her now.

Not that it's going to stop me reading because I still want to know how things develop and I'm hoping for Amane to get a good ending.

People here is like, I like Amane because she’s so pity, she deserves somebody else. She’s the best character.... lol.

It might not be the end couple but I like Kou x Nene.

And that senpai, crazy obsessive bitch.

I don't think people still want nene to go back to amane, at this point, all us amane fag just want her to cut ties with these girls and be happy, it would be hilarious when nene confessed why she broke up with her, then she will be like "no fuck you, i'm done with you" like the statement of one peepo in early comments.

I don't get why you all blame Nene. She isn't forced to give a reason for breaking up it might as well be true that she doesn't like her anymore which is a fine reason. Staying friends was Amane's choice.

Well, personally I think Nene is rather cruel in the way she stays friends. I just dislike her, I guess. But yeah, you can't blame someone for falling out of love with someone. If that was the reason they broke up, I'd actually give Nene kudos. Because it requires a lot of strenght to actually break up and not let an unhappy relationship just continue.

And Amane is pitied because she has like no control over shit. She is unlucky in love and handles it not well. And then she is manipulated by some psycho who wants her to be unhappy so she'll be dependent on her... It's not what I want to happen to anyone, lol.

How is Nene "rather cruel in the way she stays friends"? She has her reason for wanting to break up, whether that's simple falling out of love, jealousy, or manipulation, and it is valid. Amane refuses to consider her feelings and keeps trying to make moves on someone who obviously doesn't want it. It's rude, clingy, and obsessive.

Amane needs to grow up and realize that if she wants Nene to treat her better she needs to cut that shit out. It's obvious the break up hurt Nene too, and all she's doing is pouring salt in the wound.

well, telling someone they can kiss her, but then she will hate them, when she knows that said people have feelings for her is rather rude, as well. Talking about rubbing salt in the wound. There is simply not THE ONE to blame
(well except psycho-senpai, I'm gonna start blaming her for everything)

You don't randomly ask your ex to kiss if you were the one who wanted to stay friends. It can be annoying to have a clingy ex

We somewhat understand the motivation of everyone, except Nene.

I still can't judge what couple to support until I know why Nene acts the way she does.

Inferiority complex toward Amane? It's still not clear.

But one thing I'm sure of is that Kou is going to suffer when caught in the quagmire.

Oh and is it wrong that I still ship Nene and Amane?

No cause i still ship Nene & Amane.
It's going to be a long & bumpy road a head before it happens, but I believe that Amane & Nene will end up back together.
Kou will be the one to help bring those two back together especially since Kou really want's the three of them being friends, so am not worried about Kou ending up with Nene, cause she is a nice person. I can’t blame Kou at all, she seems hesitant about whatever’s going on with Nene but likes it, plus she knows about their history so it’ll be awkward to explain something she’s not sure if either. Also Kou is not trying to keep Nene for herself, Kou was the one who talk about the date to Amane, she is the one asking for another 3 people date & back to chapter 2, she said she don't want the two of them to fight
Reason for breakup is still very unclear, like Amane said you can't go stop loving someone in one day, Nene did agree with being friends & still go to the same high school, so she still cares for Amane.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

How ironic, for the owner of a Lizard to be a Snake.

Can not really say I sympathise with Amane, I kind of despise characters who get emotionally stuck like that. It is like she fully expected Nene to never get together with anyone else. This is why forcing yourself into a friendship with someone you are interested in romantically is a bad, bad idea. I understand it is hard, especially since Nene never elaborated on why she broke up with her, but the best thing would still have been to walk away, at least in my opinion.

Senpai, though, is my new favourite character, I have a soft spot for devious, manipulative people with a splash of yandere to spice things up~ Awesome stuff~ Plus, I think it would actually be good for Amane to get over Nene already, so senpai's underhanded tactics might even result in something positive.

Why is this tagged Dark skin? Does Sensei make a comeback on the raws?

Can not really say I sympathise with Amane, I kind of despise characters who get emotionally stuck like that. It is like she fully expected Nene to never get together with anyone else. This is why forcing yourself into a friendship with someone you are interested in romantically is a bad, bad idea. I understand it is hard, especially since Nene never elaborated on why she broke up with her, but the best thing would still have been to walk away, at least in my opinion.

Senpai, though, is my new favourite character, I have a soft spot for devious, manipulative people with a splash of yandere to spice things up~ Awesome stuff~ Plus, I think it would actually be good for Amane to get over Nene already, so senpai's underhanded tactics might even result in something positive.

Okay... what? You can't sympathize with Amane who clearly understands that what Nene is doing is going against what she actually wants, but you like an unrelatable sociopath? You need to flip the empathy switch.

No matter what the results are, senpai's methods and desires are harmful and wrong. The ends don't justify the means and all that.

The ends don't justify the means and all that.

This sentence can come in handy to me if/when I get into a Authoritarian Socialist VS Libertarian Socialist argument on the internet. On the LibSoc side, obviously. Thanks, BugDevil!

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Okay... what? You can't sympathize with Amane who clearly understands that what Nene is doing is going against what she actually wants, but you like an unrelatable sociopath? You need to flip the empathy switch.

Sympathising with a character and liking a character are not the same thing, which is why your comparison does not work, so I do not need to flip anything, thank you very much. And unless Amane can literally read minds, she can not "clearly understand what Nene actually wants", best she can do is guess. Bonus points for Nene being anything but clear in her wants, but again, your post would not really work if you acknowledged that. Better luck next time.

Plus, it is not even important what Nene wants, at least not for Amane. What is important is what Nene decided, and what she decided was that she does not want to be an item with Amane.

No matter what the results are, senpai's methods and desires are harmful and wrong. The ends don't justify the means and all that.

Good thing I did not argue that. Senpai's end is to get Amane, Amane getting over Nene would be more like a byproduct of that effort. Bonus point, even if senpai does not get her girl, her machinations might push Amane to finally lay her failed romance to rest.

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Why am I starting to dislike Kou?
And Nene for turning cold without voicing out the reason, I guess...

Okay... what? You can't sympathize with Amane who clearly understands that what Nene is doing is going against what she actually wants, but you like an unrelatable sociopath? You need to flip the empathy switch.

Sympathising with a character and liking a character are not the same thing, which is why your comparison does not work, so I do not need to flip anything, thank you very much. And unless Amane can literally read minds, she can not "clearly understand what Nene actually wants", best she can do is guess. Bonus points for Nene being anything but clear in her wants, but again, your post would not really work if you acknowledged that. Better luck next time.

Plus, it is not even important what Nene wants, at least not for Amane. What is important is what Nene decided, and what she decided was that she does not want to be an item with Amane.

Yes, which is why I used the word "sympathize", just as you did. Empathy and sympathy are related. Liking someone is not necessary for the process.
Narratively speaking, Amane is a character who has an emotional understanding of the situation which she cannot express. Nene is not clear about what she wants (and I didn't say she was), but we know that the way she acts is "wrong" because both Amane and the plot pointed it out. Not because Amane or I personally think she is wrong, but because it is portrayed that way.

So now you are advocating that it doesn't matter what the characters actually want? Why are you even reading this then I wonder? Motivation is extremely important in any decision and when someone makes a harmful choice, it is not at all wrong to point it out and to reject it.
If Nene "decided" to jump off a roof because she felt her life was meaningless if she wasn't called cute, would you also make such a quick judgement? Inb4 you say something about exaggeration and not comparable to deflect the point...

Why am I starting to dislike Kou?

Her complacency with the situation might be the issue. She is also avoiding the issue by focusing on the photographing, even though she clearly knows that Nene is coming onto her.

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No matter what the results are, senpai's methods and desires are harmful and wrong. The ends don't justify the means and all that.

Good thing I did not argue that. Senpai's end is to get Amane, Amane getting over Nene would be more like a byproduct of that effort. Bonus point, even if senpai does not get her girl, her machinations might push Amane to finally lay her failed romance to rest.

Your end is that it will help Amane get over it. I never said that was senpai's end goal. In other words you approve of the method, because it gets your desired end result, consequences be damned.

Why am I starting to dislike Kou?
And Nene for turning cold without voicing out the reason, I guess...

Kou did nothing wrong, Amane and Nene are simple exes nothing more, even if she did end up liking Nene, which I am not sure at this point.

Yes, which is why I used the word "sympathize", just as you did. Empathy and sympathy are related. Liking someone is not necessary for the process.

Then why did you link me not sympathising for one character with me liking another character? I mean, read your own post, it is right there, second sentence.

Narratively speaking, Amane is a character who has an emotional understanding of the situation which she cannot express. Nene is not clear about what she wants (and I didn't say she was), but we know that the way she acts is "wrong" because both Amane and the plot pointed it out. Not because Amane or I personally think she is wrong, but because it is portrayed that way.

So now you are advocating that it doesn't matter what the characters actually want? Why are you even reading this then I wonder? Motivation is extremely important in any decision and when someone makes a harmful choice, it is not at all wrong to point it out and to reject it.

If someone breaks up with you, you have no freedom to "reject" it. Why they do not want to be with you is immaterial, what they feel is immaterial, what you feel is immaterial. No one is obligated to have a clear-cut, concise reason for a breakup. Also, I was not aware that Nene opting to not be with Amane was harmful, I am actually interested in you expanding upon this.

If Nene "decided" to jump off a roof because she felt her life was meaningless if she wasn't called cute, would you also make such a quick judgement? Inb4 you say something about exaggeration and not comparable to deflect the point...

Nice try with the last sentence, but yes, I am going to say it, since it is you who is deflecting the point. Because you are making an obvious, not comparable exaggeration. Putting a high school breakup on the same level as a decision to commit suicide, bravo. Not all decisions are the same, not all choices are the same. Pushing yourself into someone's space to try and save their life is fine, pushing your feelings onto them because you refuse to accept they broke up with you is not.

Nene used fortnite default danced, it's super effective

Then why did you link me not sympathising for one character with me liking another character? I mean, read your own post, it is right there, second sentence.

Huh, so you thought that was related... Nah, I just find the idea that you can't sympathize with a character that is supposed to be sympathetic, while liking an intentionally dislikable character rather telling. Or maybe the author really is doing well on the ambiguous department.
Anyway, the empathy thing was all about Amane.

If someone breaks up with you, you have no freedom to "reject" it. Why they do not want to be with you is immaterial, what they feel is immaterial, what you feel is immaterial. No one is obligated to have a clear-cut, concise reason for a breakup. Also, I was not aware that Nene opting to not be with Amane was harmful, I am actually interested in you expanding upon this.

If you actually care about someone their reasons matter a lot to you. While yes, Amane has to accept the rejection, she does not have to accept Nene's bad behaviour and reasoning. As a former lover, as a friend, as a person who cares for her, Amane obviously wants Nene to be happy. So if something is wrong she cannot ignore it.

sigh You know, I and many people already pointed those things out over the last chapters. I don't want to repeat too much. Essentially Nene is throwing herself at Kou in a really obvious way, acting contradictory and being cruel. All things that she did apparently not do before the break-up. She is clearly emotionally unbalanced (I'd reckon even more than Amane) and the way she acts right now shows that she is hurting. Her escapism with Kou and her inferiority complex are strongly hinted at. Amane realizes these things at least on an emotional level, but she is kind of an airhead, so she can't logically put it together. And honestly, Nene isn't likely to open up to her of all people.

Nice try with the last sentence, but yes, I am going to say it, since it is you who is deflecting the point. Because you are making an obvious, not comparable exaggeration. Putting a high school breakup on the same level as a decision to commit suicide, bravo. Not all decisions are the same, not all choices are the same. Pushing yourself into someone's space to try and save their life is fine, pushing your feelings onto them because you refuse to accept they broke up with you is not.

Predictable. You ignored the underlying point of this extreme example. Decisions are only worth as much as their motivation and their consequences. This is not about them getting back together. This is not even about disagreeing with the break-up itself. Nene's decision seems contradictory and harmful to herself. Therefore Amane wants to figure it out and cannot let go.

Obvious logic aside and to a very subjective opinion of mine (unlike the above), I also want to add that if you get involved with someone to such a degree you should actually owe them a real explanation. This is a decision you make for both of you after all, which is already one-sided. At least have the courtesy of being honest... but then again, that is the crux of this drama here.

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I kind of hate how Kou retreats into the whole photography thing to avoid the situation unfolding right around her. Was kind of hoping senpai's "joke" would actually give her some much needed awareness that what Nene is doing is kind of off if she wants to stay friends with Amane too. Love triangles between 3 friends is pretty messed up. Whatever the outcome of this I hope Amane doesn't legit get stuck with someone legit harming her to get what she wants.

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Out of curiosity sake just how many chapters are out?