I wonder if author San received similar criticism in Japan, I really don't want something like this to happen again or worse, getting axed... I wonder if the author realized that there was a problem or decline in interest beyond the fact that Rin was gone.
Also it's funny in mangadex some people are saying that Momo is worst girl, wasn't her roommate/wife last time?
Not sure what the next arc is going to be like... I only saw raws of vol 8

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I completely lost track of this after the author started trying to force drama again. I clicked the chapter and I just didn't felt like reading it. I skipeed though pages barely reading enough to understand Jun didn't win for some reason, and Aoba is crying so I get the pink haired girl won.
At this point, I think the company should fire the entirety of the design team, and hire new interns for a year every year, since apparently that translates to better quality.

last edited at Feb 23, 2019 10:42AM

Agreeing with everyone that this felt very strange if only in terms of the way the company was previously shown as working. It had been established that, all things being equal in the aesthetic quality of the actual designs, elements beyond that were equally or even more important—the experience and name recognition of the designer, who the other people in the production system felt confident about, etc.

Here the decision seemed almost like judging a student art show, with not much input from the corporate side of the house who have to, you know, try to make money with the product.

Aoba the slightly sadistic senpai is rather charming, though, just as a contrast to the rampant cuteness, as long as it doesn’t get out of control.

Just to try to add another point-of-view: the current game they're working is a smaller project, and as previously stated in the story they have to also consider the complexity of the designs. They need to consider the time and effort needed to implement the designs, and the performance impact of more complex design or inclusion of extras like the bots. So, the way the competition went isn't entirely dumb... however, only the author knows if such things were actually considered. :)

But... they didn't consider any of those. They demanded a split-second decision solely by someone who clearly couldn't pick and doesn't have the experience to really take any of that into account.

What a strange way to decide who wins..
Hey you! Pick one YOU like!
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Is this not the kind of thing you vote about ?

This series really has gone down hill since Naru and Momo were introduced.

Welp, it looks like I might get run out of town considering most of the reactions here, but here's my take...
I think Momiji's designs are the best choice.
I loved Yun's designs a ton, but I don't think they were the best for the game. In fact, I'd agree that the competition ended up being between Momiji and Aoba's designs.
Yun's would be fantastic for something turn based or maybe 1v1, but the more complicated characters would be too busy to be clearly visible at all times in a fast paced 3v3 competitive game. Furthermore, they suffer from a similar problem as Momiji's mecha designs. Those characters would take more work to texture, model, rig, etc. compared to the simpler more uniform characters of Momiji's and Aoba's pitches.
There's a lot I have to say about this sort of thing. Like A LOT. But that would take a sizable wall of text nobody would want to read. And I wouldn't particularly want to write all of it either. >.>

In the context of the story there's also the fact the none of their names carry the weight Yagami's does, so all three of them are on pretty equal footing there. Aoba's name was only ever made a big deal of by Kou at that launch party for PECO.

Now this isn't all necessarily the reason why the author decided to use Momiji's, and doesn't explain the way they decided. Could just be for the newcomer to stir up some drama. But there's my case for her.

edit: frankly, the entire "hold an internal competition to decide" thing seems bizzare. It has every time it came up.

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edit: frankly, the entire "hold an internal competition to decide" thing seems bizzare. It has every time it came up.

I have no idea (and actually care even less) how this sort of thing is done in a real game company, but as a trope in the story, this iteration of the contest reminds me how much less seems at stake (to me that is) in the rivalries among the younger artists as compared to when Aoba was earning her stripes as Yagami’s protege and then taking lead on her first game.

Don’t get me wrong—it’s still a pleasant enough read, and there have been some nice individual moments, but looking back it just feels like a certain amount of focus, and to some extent energy, was lost when Yagami left.

I don’t exactly mind Momo and Naru, but (again, to me) they don’t really make up for the loss of the Aoba/Yagami interactions and (maybe especially) the Yagami/Rin dynamic.

Author could at least change Momiji and Yun's work so it could make sense.

What a strange way to decide who wins..
Hey you! Pick one YOU like!
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Is this not the kind of thing you vote about ?

It's at least the kind of thing you discuss. What a strange chapter.

I also feel this arc really detracts from Aoba as MC. Her whole theme is hardworking, insecure, gifted prodigy who's kept Nene's ability to simply have fun with games. Where Momo's the uptight, certified, by-the-book girl who envies Aoba. They could have easily either kept Aoba on top to recreate the Yagami/Aoba dynamic as Aoba/Momiji, OR actually created a coherent scenario where it would be even likely Momo would win. I think thematically she is behind Aoba and Yun, really,

I stopped reading the manga after the anime released,now I picked it up again and all I can say is... what happened to this manga?

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Wow, this is going nowhere! im pretty sure this new game will be a total failure, having big tits as the director fell super wierd and forced, she is super indecisive about what she wants and thats a no good for a director, she really is not up there yet to have that post.

Sees Hajime pile up praises on Yun
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Then why the heck didn't you gave her the spot for character designer, you damn moron ?! Instead of someone who isn't hired yet and just copy-pasted Yun's design !

I'm glad Yun got an opportunity she deserves, but frankly, I still can't get over how stupid the team composition was. Glad that at least Christina realized it and is taking steps to fix things up...

I'm not a fan of whatever is happening with Aoba and Momiji; and I was downright pissed when Yun didn't win that contest. And when Christina said that someone needed to be cut, I was so scared for everyone, especially Aoba.

But looks like this was the best outcome. (Best girl) Hifumi kept saying how she was uncomfortable with the Art Director post because of her anxiety, etc. And their reasoning for making Yun the Art director instead was also pretty good. Still pissed that Yun didn't win, but this is the next best thing, I suppose.

im pretty sure this new game will be a total failure, having big tits as the director fell super wierd and forced, she is super indecisive about what she wants and thats a no good for a director, she really is not up there yet to have that post.

I get what you're saying, but this is a sort of side project that they're doing in between major releases. Something nobody even knows about. For that reason alone, I think its fine to try out other people. At some point, experienced people will move on to greener pastures (like Kou), or retire (less likely in this manga because even Shizuku seems quite young). Makes sense as a company, and Christina's decisions really make it feel like a realistic company.

Speaking of, I'm really starved for oblivious lady-killer Kou and yuri disaster Rin moments. :(

I'm not a fan of whatever is happening with Aoba and Momiji; and I was downright pissed when Yun didn't win that contest. And when Christina said that someone needed to be cut, I was so scared for everyone, especially Aoba.

In my opinion, Momiji was the obvious choice to remove in favor of Yun. She's just an intern, even Hajime don't know her all that well, has the least experience in the company. In short, she's the least well known factor.

Even if this is a side project, it's still an official project that will carry the studio's name on its shoulder, money from the company and investors and mobilizing a good deal of employees. Giving Hajime the job was risky enough, letting her have final say in the character designer choice was a crappy and even riskier move, if you ask me.

I'm not a fan of whatever is happening with Aoba and Momiji; and I was downright pissed when Yun didn't win that contest. And when Christina said that someone needed to be cut, I was so scared for everyone, especially Aoba.

In my opinion, Momiji was the obvious choice to remove in favor of Yun. She's just an intern, even Hajime don't know her all that well, has the least experience in the company. In short, she's the least well known factor.

Even if this is a side project, it's still an official project that will carry the studio's name on its shoulder, money from the company and investors and mobilizing a good deal of employees. Giving Hajime the job was risky enough, letting her have final say in the character designer choice was a crappy and even riskier move, if you ask me.

Sometimes taking risks pays off, and a side project is exactly the time you want to shake things up and do something otherwise offbeat. Goat Simulator is the perfect example, starting from a blue sky session between other games. The company wasn't pinning all its hopes on it or anything (they already had plans for their next serious game), but it turned out to be a crashing success.

Glad to see a mix of positive and negative comments, yes this is indeed a side project, so maybe that's why the company isn't so hard on them and why they have so much freedom, like even if they fail, it won't be a huge deal like for example Peko failing as long as they don't delay the main projects of the company... Of course, if they do fail, I'm sure at least one person could be fired.
We can all agree that Hajime is making a mess right now, but without Kou I guess all of them need to grown a lot so I hope this helps them, well I'm cheering for Yun mostly! she's my favorite.

Looks like Vol 9 is out in Japan already! I saw the raws of Vol 8 and I've saw some cute moments but I'm excited to know what direction this is going to take, after all, is possible the vol 9 ending could be the ending of a hypothetical third season.

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Can't be worse of what already happen tbh.

Glad that at least Christina realized it and is taking steps to fix things up...

Mostly due to the author realising that (s)he fu*ked up and put a quick fix next chapter where it could have been right if they don't have let Hajime take the decision by herself when she had no experience at all.

Of course, if they do fail, I'm sure at least one person could be fired.

Down in my heart i want Momiji. I will be honest,when they put the 2 charactersi think it was where the problems started.Momiji has done really nothing so far and yet we give her the design.

If you expect the Yun problem, it's a bis of the Peko design concept with Aoba winning over Kou. Speaking of Kou, the fact that Hotaru will suddendly start work with her because why not and will be better than a genius like Kou is beyong bullsh*t

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Big spoiler from this month's Kirara, but also something to look forward in the future °-°)
spoiler picture https://i.imgur.com/7NWdzBc.jpg

Big spoiler from this month's Kirara, but also something to look forward in the future °-°)
spoiler picture https://i.imgur.com/7NWdzBc.jpg

At this point, Rin pretty much live in France

Lilliwyt posted:

Big spoiler from this month's Kirara, but also something to look forward in the future °-°)
spoiler picture https://i.imgur.com/7NWdzBc.jpg

At this point, Rin pretty much live in France

All to pursue and nurture her friendshippppp knows no border

Lilliwyt posted:

Big spoiler from this month's Kirara, but also something to look forward in the future °-°)
spoiler picture https://i.imgur.com/7NWdzBc.jpg

At this point, Rin pretty much live in France

All to pursue and nurture her friendshippppp knows no border

Rin pretty much already confess, it's just Kou who didn't understand the message.