[...] yuri tagging rule is there must have no penis in the story(who doesn't agree?)

That's not the case. And neither the staff, nor plenty of users agree with your nonsense. The tag explicitly states

Female + female relationship(s).

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Yikuph, you might not be aware that there are stories with pre-op trans women on the reader that are marked Yuri, which suggests you're running your mouth about something you don't know much about. So maybe don't, hm?

um, thank you for tagging this with yuri. i know i seem to a lot of people to be overreactive but i appreciate that the staff did put a lot of thought into how to handle this and while i disagree with how the futa tag is handled that the staff acknowledged the ambiguousness of this manga and wanted to be clear that it would validly fall under yuri if the character is trans in this doujin is very important and puts me at ease.

As to nightblade96, I haven't seen much from you in this discussion besides transphobia and shitposting. You've managed both, so I doubt there's much left for you hear. Move along to another discussion please.

It's one of those times when some people might think they are having an argument about semantics but really it involves so much more. I'd recommend just stopping if you think you're arguing semantics.

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You're right, offering my own opinion is shitposting because I didn't write a 5 paragraph medical essay on it, and when did I say transphobic? I'm saying that a penis and yuri doesn't mix. Might as well say im heterophobic instead.

And sorry for pointing out how 2 tags that explicitly says shouldn't be used together are used together for no discernible reason.

"Should NOT be paired with the futanari tag unless there is somehow a separate relationship that does not involve futanari." literally stated on the tag itself.

But yeah I won't say any more on this matter. I may not understand what all this shit is about and I may never will, but I don't go around calling everyone that disagree with me (something)phobic

Yikuph, you might not be aware that there are stories with pre-op trans women on the reader that are marked Yuri, which suggests you're running your mouth about something you don't know much about. So maybe don't, hm?

Ah yeah I forgot that, but I mean it's only on dynasty where you can get futa, trans and yuri tags together. Wherever else I see relationships with penis automatically eliminate it as yuri. So don't get me wrong I am not transphobe I just don't care about it too much.

Okay.

Am I the only one thinks the two women are Nozomi and Eli? I heard that they are adults during this period in time. Also, Pito likes NozoEli. If it's true, then that would mean You had sex with Nozomi.

Cool.

REDflame23 posted:

Am I the only one thinks the two women are Nozomi and Eli? I heard that they are adults during this period in time. Also, Pito likes NozoEli. If it's true, then that would mean You had sex with Nozomi.

Cool.

Hmmm the age gap appear to be over 5 years imo, and I don't think that much time has passed... However, if that was the author idea, I don't really like it lol, because seeing Nozomi drunk and fooling around with Eli is not my cup of Tea.

Edit: Well... Random woman vs Nozomi ... Put like that I rather Nozomi for You

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Oh, ffs. Do you know how insulting that "biologically female bodies" thing is? How overdone, and how ignorant of basic biology? Get outta here with that.

Besides, as has been stated many, many times, this site DOES consider a girl-girl relationship as yuri. So you're wrong on that however you slice it.

Note to anyone: If you say you're not stepping into a territory, your next move is to NOT STEP INTO IT. Cripes, that should be basic.

VivianGames posted:

They're not "I'm going to make my body match my gender" because a penis isn't inherently male or female. Neither are breasts. HRT and surgery are treatments for gender dysphoria. It's treating the fact that your body doesn't feel correct for you and that that divide is tied to identifying as a gender other than the one you were assigned at birth. It's complicated. It's the difference between saying that to have a female body you have to have a vagina, and saying that I already have a female body cuz I'm a female and this is my body, but that I want to have surgery so that I can feel more comfortable in that body.

Well that is basically what I said. Whatever you look it at it one of those way, the ultimate goal is to feel more comfortable in your body. Also I say born with wrong body, because that is how usually people define it, but as I said over and over in this thread, as long as you identify as a woman to me you are women and how your body looks like is irrelevant to me. So I know you can look at it also as I'm female so I have a female body but I still want to make it feel more comfortable to me.

We seem to be getting another wave of "it's not yuri if one is biologically male" and similar, and I'm debating whether to just start deleting the damn things on sight, since they obviously don't contribute a damn thing to the discussion that hasn't been said (sometimes by the same people) already, and it just stirs things up regardless of whether it's trolling or well-intentioned-but-ignorant.

So how about we eliminate the middle-(wo)man and just not bother, okay? No hard feelings if you choose not to post.

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Nevri The "born in the wrong body" thing seems a bit old-fashioned these days. I don't hear it hardly at all from trans people over the past ten years or so. Rather I hear it mostly from people who aren't trans who are basically using a metaphor they can get their head around.

yeah my experience has largely been that "born in the wrong body" is a description that exists more for cis benefit than trans tho any trans people who do feel that is appropriate to them are entitled to that.

yeah my experience has largely been that "born in the wrong body" is a description that exists more for cis benefit than trans tho any trans people who do feel that is appropriate to them are entitled to that.

Well yeah, it's a hard thing to communicate to someone who's not going through it, and sometimes to those who are. Any old metaphor in a storm, right?

Considering that GRS is, many times, quite literally a life saving surgery and therefore very much a medical necessity, I never could understand why most insurance companies refuse to cover it. It seems likely the friend I've mentioned before would no longer be alive if she hadn't had the chance to get that surgery.

Edit: At least insurance did help her pay for the hormones.

Even more so, given the overall size of the population even if we all wanted hormones and surgery (which of course all of us don't) it wouldn't be all that expensive from an insurance perspective. It's cheaper than a lot of stuff they do cover.

Think it is Argentina where they actually implemented that. Basically anyone can have GRS on the state insurance, no hurdles, no x-years living in the new gender required, etc. The predominantly male, conservative opposition raised a howl about the expenses and whatnot, until they were asked for a show of hands how many of them would be going for the chance of genital reconstruction on a whim... :P As far as I know, their expenditures didn't even budge.

That sort of confronting generally seems to work quite well. A trans* friend of mine uses a similar approach when guys start to ask her rather rude questions about having "stuff cut off": she simply describes the process in quite a bit of detail - queue some rather pale faces hugging their beer tightly and apologising for asking.

Canada's slowly heading in that direction. Problem is, there's only one clinic in the whole country who actually does surgeries, so even with a couple of Provinces providing coverage there's a huge bottleneck there, and another in the still-limited list of psychologist/gatekeepers that are available to feed people that far.

That sort of confronting generally seems to work quite well. A trans* friend of mine uses a similar approach when guys start to ask her rather rude questions about having "stuff cut off": she simply describes the process in quite a bit of detail - queue some rather pale faces hugging their beer tightly and apologising for asking.

I am so going to start doing this now <3

Probs gonna piss people off with this question or not but, whos the futa and whos the transgender person? When the lady said "did you let it all out" or something, does that mean You is the futa? Plz someone answer my question.

Am I the only one thinks the two women are Nozomi and Eli? I heard that they are adults during this period in time. Also, Pito likes NozoEli. If it's true, then that would mean You had sex with Nozomi.

Cool.

I really think it might be the case.

Apt thread title.

XD
You went there! Hahahahaha!
It's funny because it's true. XD

Msmusicful: Yup, it's You. Pito's drawn a bunch of futanari You and Kanan on Twitter, haha.

By the way, for those of you who loved this comic: I was lucky enough to catch Pito on Google Hangouts earlier (Pito announces drawing streams on Twitter every once in a while), and got excited when I saw a certain faceless onee-chan appear on a page. It was very enlightening to see how Pito did the composition of the pages on Photoshop and Sai, and how Pito went back and forth about what kind of dialogue and sfx to put into the comic to get the right kind of feel for the story. It also made me jealous as a scanlator who's had to struggle to teach myself how to clean and typeset, since all Pito had to do was turn off the layer for sfx whenever something needed to be redrawn. TBH, part of the reason I don't ask Pito if I can translate all of their comics is because I'm too lazy to typeset everything, haha.

Anyways - this means that Pito just released a continuation! This story takes place the day after the previous comic. Now I gotta take back what I said before about the ChikaYou thing, since this sequel pretty much establishes that You has a crush on Riko. Also, I'm extremely amused that my previous comment, about how Pito wrote this as a story of You hitting puberty, has suddenly become very relevant. :3c

Am I the only one thinks the two women are Nozomi and Eli? I heard that they are adults during this period in time. Also, Pito likes NozoEli. If it's true, then that would mean You had sex with Nozomi.

Cool.

I really think it might be the case.

Pito captioned "Going Off Course" with "(Mob Warning)", which means that the older lady is a mob character (i.e. an OC). There's no harm if you wanna keep the Nozomi thing as a headcanon, though! :)

Anyways - this means that Pito just released a continuation!

Awesome! Seems like You's trying to decide who to go after. I'm hoping she goes for the older lady <3