Ouch, just when it looked like it was getting gay and happy again.

Ch. 25

Damn...

Heavy...

But...I mean she knows it, and still loves her so...

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Wait, maybe I'm missing something here, but when did Kureha find out that Ginko accidentally killed her mom? Also, WHAT THE HELL? I could take the rest of the bizarre stuff so far, but that just came out of left field...

Wtf? Don't brainwash your kids and take them bear hunting folks.

God, I hate Ginko's mom, The whole character annoy me.
These last chapters were absolutely confusing for me. And when did she learn about how her mother died?
The manga began so nice but turned into such a mess, a shame...

I'd assume at this point that executive medling is preventing Morishima from finishing the manga, since I see no other way someone could see that asspull and think it's an ok way to continúe the story.

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@blopa - hmmmm, good point. one question i've been mulling over is what would stop Morishima from creating a doujin that "tries" to give a better explanation of the story?

LOL, i like what you've called this... an "asspull". LMAO!

@blopa - hmmmm, good point. one question i've been mulling over is what would stop Morishima from creating a doujin that "tries" to give a better explanation of the story?

LOL, i like what you've called this... an "asspull". LMAO!

It's a very common phrase in certain corners of the internet.

@blopa - hmmmm, good point. one question i've been mulling over is what would stop Morishima from creating a doujin that "tries" to give a better explanation of the story?

LOL, i like what you've called this... an "asspull". LMAO!

It's a very common phrase in certain corners of the internet.

See also PIDOOMA, used in other circles.

@blopa - hmmmm, good point. one question i've been mulling over is what would stop Morishima from creating a doujin that "tries" to give a better explanation of the story?

LOL, i like what you've called this... an "asspull". LMAO!

It's a very common phrase in certain corners of the internet.

@Nidienne - yeah, i know the term, i was laughing because it's the first time someone on here has called it out as such, but thanks for providing the link.

See also PIDOOMA, used in other circles.

@Nez - say Nez, the wiki entry is hillarious. i totally dig the latin name and may need to start including it in either my code or when i document other's code.

Completely off-topic... but speaking of pulling bullshit out of one's ass, i'm listening to one of my country's presidential candidates. talk about Argumentum ex culo and the mother of all BS arguments... ugh! :-(

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The reactions to this penultimate chapter should be interesting...

For a long time, I was thinking that this story made much more sense than the anime's. Now, I'm beginning to think otherwise.

Random Estonian out of nowhere, what. Just about the last place where I expected to run into that.

Seems more or less correct too.

This series has never made sense. Each chapter I feel like I grasp less of the world than I did before reading it. Does this series not have an editor? I find it hard to believe that it makes so much more sense in Japanese to the point where an editor would give it the OK. It can't just be an issue of it being lost in translation.

I kind of get it, but... yea, I don't.
At least it looks like things are looking up, again?

It kinda went full circle with the anime. I can see how Ikuhara is behind this. Well played.

That's it. I need some counselling. And more shrooms.

I was surprised by how not confusing as hell this was in the beginning... and look where it is now. Well, everyone's a bear now, everyone's happy, I guess that's how it's gonna end.

...ok I dunno what is going on anymore...I need a adult.

Completely off-topic... but speaking of pulling bullshit out of one's ass, i'm listening to one of my country's presidential candidates. talk about Argumentum ex culo and the mother of all BS arguments... ugh! :-(

It is somewhat frightening that
1) Given the most obvious assumption about what country that is, this gives me no way of telling which candidate it was, and
2) Really, if I'm being fair, it doesn't actually give any guidance whatsoever about what president-headed country that might be.

Meanwhile, is there something wrong with me if I thought this chapter actually explained quite a bit? OK, true, some completely ludicrous things happened, but the overall shape of what's been up all this time is becoming pretty clear (and is in a way disappointingly ordinary).
I mean, this turns out to be a story of the return of the long-lost childhood first love, a staple of shoujo romance. It's just that in this case, one of the childhood lovers accidentally killed the other one's mother, and reacted by doing weird displacing things both in terms of memory and perception, perhaps with her mother's help when mom realized she couldn't handle the truth. Since the lover's mother she shot was a bear-hunter and because of her own mom's stylistic issues, the whole bear thing got brought in. After all, who would have killed a bear-hunter? A bear, clearly.
She didn't consciously remember her first love, but when she saw her again she perceived her as the only human because first love and because her slain mom was clearly not a bear. And she fell for her all over again, and since then the story has been to a fair extent about her gaining the strength to face the truth, layer by layer, so the two of them could overcome the trauma and love each other without being haunted by the past.
So in essence, childhood sweethearts + traumatic event and almost Freudian repression, overcome by the therapy of love.
And, OK, there's some stuff about them having somehow met while still in their mom's wombs and being almost destined to love, to fulfill in this generation what the previous generation didn't have the moxie to pull off.
Sprinkle symbolism as/if desired.

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The bear symbolism in the anime was heavily tied to the views and expectations of lesbianism and they way they're treated in Japanese culture, but the bear symbolism here is something psychologically tied to Ginko and her mother and the way they view themselves and society as "other," except for a girl they fell in love with, who they viewed as "human" or "unlike me or anyone else and impossible to be reached."

Interesting. Cute bears doing cute things.

A healthy person can't live with a crazy person for long without turning crazy herself. Lol.

The bear symbolism in the anime was heavily tied to the views and expectations of lesbianism and they way they're treated in Japanese culture, but the bear symbolism here is something psychologically tied to Ginko and her mother

Well, that's not too surprising I guess. Morishima Akiko's approach to the issue of how Japanese culture reacts to lesbianism has always been pretty much "I refuse to give a fuck", so it would be out of character for her to turn around and explore it and treat it as a big inhibiting issue.
And it's always felt to me like a conscious strategy--basically "My characters will behave as if social acceptance is not an issue, and by refusing to treat it as a problem we will assume acceptance into existence".

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It's a very common phrase in certain corners of the internet.

See also PIDOOMA, used in other circles.

"Proctolojustification". I love this term.

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And here's the last of it!