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joined Dec 3, 2010

Sensei went to college A before
Her old student wanted to go to the same college, though her artworks are still in a beginner mode
Sensei decided to give her hope-- she told her yes, she can if she kept pushing herself really hard
And then the student started her practice during summer, having sensei to accompany her and helped her with her practice

The student took the exam and
She didn't make it, unfortunately

So the teacher's heart sunk because she knew the student had practice so hard trying to get into the college but her admission test failed

All the efforts suddenly went for nothing, that sort of feeling

That is why she felt her heart so sunk
The feeling of helplessness..
Unable to help a student to achieve her dream to enroll the college she wanted made her feel like

"It felt like helping or overly optimism may hurt the person more than stopping her in the beginning"

As a teacher, nothing gets more satisfactory if the students they helped actually made it and do well in their lives, and that includes getting themselves a good college

last edited at Oct 15, 2026 1:20AM

joined May 28, 2026

re-reading the last several, I better understand why Shiratori was so torn up about what went down with her previous (interestingly unnamed) student. And my interpretation is a lot of it came down to the fact she was a student teacher, jumping into something that she initially had no intention of pursuing, and now finding herself anxious and brand-new to a world where her decisions and actions have a very real impact on the lives of adolescents looking to enter the adult world.

She herself was hoping to emulate the very high school teacher who inspired her to take this path almost spontaneously, and that all built up into a significant amount of pressure. So when her decision to encourage that student to push for a school that was, practically speaking, quite a reach for her ability ultimately backfired, the blowback was that much more severe because of that increased pressure of responsibility for appearing to have ruined the girl's life.

Which makes Yuna's unassuming counterexample to the pressure and self-chastisement of Shiratori all the more noteworthy for me, because my initial read was that Shiratori was being far too hard on herself, looking from the outside in. Sitting more in how I interpret her headspace through everything, I can better identify with where she might be mentally and emotionally, but Yuna's rather easygoing way of blowing Shiratori's worries wide open still works. Because ultimately, she didn't do anything wrong; she encouraged a student to try their best, to reach for something important and to put in the work. Yes, maybe there's value in couching expectations with a dose of pragmatism, but that's something you learn from experience—and Shiratori was still a student teacher, not even having fully earned her license yet. She couldn't have had the experience necessary to know how to handle that situation with appropriate tact.

And even at the end, she sees that the student took another year, practiced and prepped, re-took the test, and now she's well on her way through the very program she wanted to obtain. She took the encouragement and the support Shiratori gave and didn't give up, and it paid off in the best way.
Shiratori sadly had run away, though. And that's not inexcusable, but it still makes Yuna's revelation to her here and now very important. With time and experience comes wisdom and growth, and in terms of the relationship dynamic between them, makes it clear that Shiratori can learn from Yuna just as much as the student can learn from her teacher.
Just neat to see, and I like this resolution to this backstory for Shiratori and I look forward to seeing where she goes, now that she can hopefully forgive herself and move forward (and get up to potential romance shenanigans with Yuna at some point, as drama-coded as that may end up being).

Also - on pg.16 — the teacher in the flashback has the teacher calling her "Aoi", but I'm assuming that's Ako Shiratori, right? At least I thought that was her high school teacher talking who she says inspired her to pursue teaching instead of design school like her friends thought she would in chapter 7. Unless I'm really misreading what's going on there.

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joined Jul 30, 2015

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Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

Wait, so you are telling me that catastrophizing everything bad that happens and blaming yourself for it isn't a healthy or attitude?

joined May 18, 2021

I HOPE the yuri ends up being between the teachers....

joined May 28, 2026

I HOPE the yuri ends up being between the teachers....

well I'd rather Hotaru not cheat on her girlfriend, if possible,

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joined Oct 7, 2025

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joined May 9, 2017

I HOPE the yuri ends up being between the teachers....

well I'd rather Hotaru not cheat on her girlfriend, if possible,

I forgot about the girlfriend.

It was a nice discussion. I just wished that the issue she had with the former student would have not been resolved. Now it feels like all her worries were for nothing, because in the end, the student she pushed was able to go through it. A bit too cheesey/forced for my taste. But regardless, still a great chapter.

joined Sep 19, 2015

I got whiplash by how quickly the ex-student showed up to reassure everyone that no, actually she didn’t give up her dream and totally succeeded.

In%20your%20butt
joined Jun 21, 2021

i think the whiplash might be somewhat the point. Kind of a "Yeah sometimes you mess up and you feel like the world is ending but then after some time you realize it wasn't that big of a deal after all" type thing.

Sure, the student was devastated that she didn't get in and teach thought she did irreparable damage. But it was in fact not irreparable and the student's future wasn't ruined at all. All it took was another try and not giving up.

Which doesn't sound all that unrealistic tbh

last edited at Nov 4, 2026 8:36PM

joined May 9, 2017

i think the whiplash might be somewhat the point. Kind of a "Yeah sometimes you mess up and you feel like the world is ending but then after some time you realize it wasn't that big of a deal after all" type thing.

Sure, the student was devastated that she didn't get in and teach thought she did irreparable damage. But it was in fact not irreparable and the student's future wasn't ruined at all. All it took was another try and not giving up.

Which doesn't sound all that unrealistic tbh

it's not unrealistic of course, but I wished she didn't learn about it, especially that quickly. Because it makes the discussion with the bento girl (forgot her name) looks pretty useless. Mostly a problem of timing.

last edited at Nov 4, 2026 10:21PM

Chinchilla
joined Apr 28, 2022

I mean yay? I really thought homegirl killed herself after she didn't get in but magically she saw her days after dredging up the past lol?

What a coincidence.

I really don't think this is going to end in any kind of relationship between them it just doesn't seem like that kind of manga.

Heres%20wakasa
joined Jul 28, 2016

Yeah, I also thought it was too convenient that she ended up getting in. I thought that she would say that she ended up going to a different college but was still enjoying her time there and learning a lot. So, Shiratori would still be happy to learn that her former student was happy. I thought that’d be more realistic and it still kind of works the same as a resolution for this arc. It’s definitely great as is though, and this is already a great resolution.

Facepalm%20godzilla
joined Dec 15, 2016

I also thought there would be a talk between Shiratori and Hase in which she encourages Shiratori to reach out to the student, who even if she didn't necessarily made it into the art college she still appreciates that her teacher believed in her.

In that case the story would have turned out to be Hase the school psychologist, easing every ones worries. Feels like she'll be a harem protagonist. But now that everything seems kind of resolved, where is the story going will it be a love story between Shiratori and Nekome, will there be drama involving Hases relationships so Nekome can return the favour and help her out or will now Nekome notice she also likes Hase or something.
The one thing I wouldn't enjoy would be if they suddenly introduce a student like Nekome that is into Hase and Nekome and her become friends and trying to help each other out.

last edited at Nov 6, 2026 6:49AM

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

May the healing begin. ^_^

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