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I love kerorokjy's artwork so much~

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Such a sad ending. I hope the daughter finds someone to love her like her mother did.

I guess we're going to find out.

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This series is literally tagged as yuri on comic walker and on the author's own twitter, who is putting these subtext tags on every new series???

Someone who's been burned one too many times, maybe? I can kinda understand the sentiment of assuming subtext until something unambiguously yuri happens.

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Fate and Nanoha are both right there and the camera has to go and get distracted by the apocalypse or something, geez~!...

CaraiseLink
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These pages usually get either a "yep, that's how it goes" or a "wait no what" out of me, but this one somehow managed to get both.

CaraiseLink
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Ah yes, the thinly veiled scissoring and kissing handshake, something only good friends would do~

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My point being, "pseudo-incest" can be about real issues, not just pearl-clutching. Though of course it can also be a way of getting incest thrills without it being 'real'.

For sure, but then you can also have the ShoukoTenri sort of situation where even 'real' incest is functionally indistinguishable from classmates whose parents happen to be friends. We can draw rough trends among either tag, but they're woefully imprecise, which is not something I'd expect from a content warning tag based on anything real. Hence why I'm stuck with eyebrow locked in raised position every time someone comes into a thread with "I don't usually like incest, but". (Well, that and my general inability to understand people who don't like watching people play with fire.)

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They're cousins, not even necessarily first cousins, it's not very incest.

I mean, pseudo-incest is a tag mostly because there are people who get distressed over a piece of paper somewhere saying two strangers are now "sisters". Shared DNA certainly isn't going to be relevant in a schoolgirl yuri work, either. For the purposes of squick and prejudice, any reality on the ground is secondary to whether it can be labeled "incest".

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am I right in assuming Shouko likes Tenri? is this an incest route? oWo

Yup. A reader with properly calibrated yuri goggles would've caught on early, but Shouko going for a T for Tenri instead of R for Ryo confirmed it. I'm always sad to see a wincest ship crash and burn, of course, but at the same time I'm glad her aspirations are well and truly crushed instead of being trapped in painful ambiguity like she has been.

CaraiseLink
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Not pictured is all the paper people, or their predictably fiery end. RIP paper airlines, you folded too soon.

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Ow.

CaraiseLink
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In before BlueishOrange posts "<3"~

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I'm expecting a deeply satisfying comeuppance this next chapter. Possibly with the complication of Beybey not realizing Dorothy is on her side, but she's kinda used to handling curses at this point, so it'll probably be fine.

CaraiseLink
Rhea's Egg discussion 29 Mar 23:05
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I never wondered about that since egg-laying is pretty much universal within Animalia (save most mammalians and whatever sponges, jellyfish, and other bizarro sea-dwellers do), but checking Wikipedia, dinosaur eggs appear to be pretty well-documented.

I was talking about them laying unfertilized eggs specifically. Dinosaur eggs are well-documented, but my layman googling skills can't find much about dinosaur menstruation. It seems like fish and bugs do the chicken thing of just dropping the eggs regardless of what state they're in because the individual eggs are too cheap to care about, but the most I could find about non-avian reptiles was a vague "it's complicated". Tbh I am now irate the internet isn't telling me whether snake egg farms are a viable concept, someone please help.

But that makes me wonder how mature a dragon chick is going to be. Humans are born absurdly immature and useless, birds too to a less extent, whilst reptiles usually hatch fully-featured. So labour and egg-laying could just be equivalents to get the embryo out at the same stage of development. (Given dragon lifespans I can accept 9 months to form an egg, with the time it takes for an infant to develop sensory-motor skills spent incubating, so ~2 years).

It's a good question. From an evolutionary standpoint, so long as they have a method to avoid wasting resources on unfertilized eggs, I would lean towards the standard fantasy situation of dragons hatchlings being more or less fully-featured. Nothing small enough to get away with poaching a dragon's nest is going to be strong enough to actually pierce a dragon's egg, so long nesting periods are safer than trying to care for an immature hatchling. Which is where my concerns about size come in, because I'd expect a hatchling with 1-2 years of fetal development to be at least as big as a medium-sized dog, which is...not a comfortable fit for the human womb. I guess it's possible that dragons in human form give birth to dragons in human form, but I doubt it since...

This works fine with the doujin here since wyverns at least appear precocial. The question is then whether the infant-egg can already shapeshift, and at which age it learns to control that skill.

The human transformation is a spell. According to the wiki, human magicians apparently broke the universe so badly the laws of physics can no longer properly support bodies and minds as powerful as dragons'. Staying in their natural forms for too long causes them to gradually lose their sanity, then eventually their sapience, which is what happened to wyverns and the other animalistic dragons. You can imagine all the dragon parents losing sleep over when is the right time to teach their children the human spell, and whether they messed up their kid by teaching it too late. Bonus points if they have to have a serious talk about how if you want to experiment with weed in college, that's your choice, but for goodness sake don't do all-night dragon form benders, that shit'll mess you up.

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Rhea's Egg discussion 29 Mar 04:35
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That was a wyvern egg. Dragons ≠ wyverns.

In context of Fire Emblem, I'm pretty sure you're incorrect. My memory of Sealed Sword and the wiki both have wyverns as being one of many subspecies of dragon, and I definitely remember wyrmslayers working on wyvern riders. Which also means no on the shark thing, at least in context of this manga, since it has wyvern eggs hatching externally.

Which makes one wonder how pregnancy works when switching forms. I don't think the egg would disappear and teleport the fetus back into the womb upon transformation. So it's probably some form of viviparity (aplacental or not).

I mean, they can transform from human to dragon and back within the space of a minute without damaging their clothing or any of the various alchemical salves or enchanted items in their pockets. There is clearly some shenanigans going on here, so as long as the egg fits inside the smaller of the two forms, I'm willing to believe it just works. That said, it's also possible that form switching prior to egg formation induces miscarriage, and human babies are already barely small enough to pass through human hips. There is a nonzero possibility that they have to avoid transforming for the early stages of pregnancy, then transform at the end to actually give birth.

Also birds are dinosaurs.

All birds are dinosaurs, but not all dinosaurs are birds. I don't know how old birds' mode of reproduction is, so while I would imagine all theropods are going to be pretty similar, the other branches might not be. Raptor egg farming yes, brachiosaurus egg farming uncertain.

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Rhea's Egg discussion 27 Mar 18:46
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It really depends on dragons' specific biology.

Crack headcanon dragons are like cats, they get in heat but only ovulate during mating.

Seems fair enough, honestly? An adult dragon's metabolic costs are already going to be crazy even if they spend most of their time sleeping. Dragons tend to hatch much more developed than most IRL newborns, so now on top of that you're looking at multiple cows' worth of food per dragon egg. This appetite just isn't sustainable without some way of preventing unfertilized eggs from forming, either by forming the egg after fertilization or only forming the egg when you know it's likely to be fertilized. (In before: No, that's gross, and unless they've got supernaturally efficient stomachs they'd only get like 40% of the nutrients back anyway.)

I guess the only other way would be if they had external fertilization like fish, so the females could have very long ovulation cycles and just sorta keep the eggs around until they find a suitable male?... Probably not if they're having kids with humans, though.

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Rhea's Egg discussion 27 Mar 06:26
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i mean she can lay an unfertilized egg can't she

It really depends on dragons' specific biology. If dragons work like dinosaurs and dinosaurs work like birds, then every dragon period should involve an unfertilized egg. If true, it'd be impossible for Rhea to not know what a dragon egg looks like unless she's infertile, which she apparently isn't. So in this particular work at least, it would seem that dragon periods do not work like bird periods, and dragon eggs only forms around fertilized embryos. Or perhaps being in human form interrupts their reproductive cycles? I do feel like a human body trying to pass a dragon-sized egg would be a bad time.

(No clue how this lines up with canon, Fire Emblem is one of those fandoms whose yuri doujins I enjoy much more than the games themselves.)

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Imagine how happy Yachiyo was when Iroha first logged into Tsukuyomi

It didn't even occur to me that Yachiyo was greeting every player individually so that she could be absolutely certain not to miss Iroha. That's sooooo sweet, oh my goodness...

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Here I was, foolish optimist that I am, thinking that the whistling bit was so very silly that the worms had to be a bluff. They apparently were not. And then the aftermath...Nope, nope, nope, get me off this ride right this minute!...

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single (malfunctioning) brain cell betwen the whole cast
No, serioulsy. The whole cast is descending into madness. Damn, I'm out of popcorn. Gotta make more for next chapter....

It's really just Niji. Azuki and Meguru show clear signs of being on the road to recovery, and Remu has consistently been remarkably mentally healthy...period, honestly, but especially for her age with such a severe trauma.

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Eh. I wouldn't go that far. Zed, and the other cyborgs, seemed capable of at least temporarily standing up to Nanoha, which puts them leagues above the typical D-rank and their tech was shown to have some effectiveness against magic. Some orbital bombardment might shift that equation, but that's also not how the TSAB typically handles things.

Beyond that, while the statement itself was definitely dramatic irony, that doesn't mean it can't also be foreshadowing. Sure, these guys are big fish in a small pond and have no idea what they're dealing with, but that doesn't mean the actual big fish can't have similar worries. After all, Hayate, Nanoha, and Fate all represent pretty absurd power levels even by Midchilda's standards. If I recall correctly, they've already had to up the top end of their power scale multiple times for them. There were also some grumblings about the amount of power concentrated in Hayate's organization, and only really answerable to her, in StrikerS. So there's already some precedent for these kinds of concerns and themes.

It's not how they typically handle things, but the TSAB has demonstrated that their morality can get malleable when the higher-ups feel like they're up against a wall. If the planet somehow became a threat, getting their military bases Arc-en-Ciel'd out of existence would not be surprising. Hence the irony; if their floundering about was as meaningful as they think it is, they'd probably be causing themselves more trouble in the long run.

That'd be more of a callback than foreshadowing. I'd be kind of surprised if Hayate didn't already understand that her absurd power is causing friction for whatever group she's in, too. That might be how she managed to form Exceeds in the first place: the age-old solution of sending a troublesome military figure to some remote province where they can't lend power to any particular side. Can't argue with the fact that they're playing with a different side of a familiar theme, though, and I love to see it.

Huh. I could have sworn the ranking system didn't originally go all the way to S or SS.

I don't know the exact history of what ranks appeared in which Nanoha works when, but I am pretty sure that there was no hint of the Bureau having to invent new ranks just to accommodate any named characters.

I had it in my head that the top of the scale used Olivie as the definition of SSS, but that might've just been a Gamesverse thing. At any rate, yeah, there's definitely supposed to be historical precedent for people like Nanoha and team. And given how many worlds the TSAB is implied to cover, I'd be surprised if there weren't several more S+ than we've seen, possibly even another SS, they just didn't happen to be on Midchilda during the time of the show. Though we can be reasonably confident Hayate has the most raw power of any living mage, since it's why the Book of Darkness attached to her.

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Also, the shear irony of the general talking about how no nation would accept the existence of a woman who could single-handedly beat their entire army, to a woman who just single-handedly no-diffed his army and who commands several more women who could low-diff entire armies makes me wonder if there's some foreshadowing going on.

I'm reading it more as dramatic irony, personally. Apparently even the country's leadership have no idea how small a pond they're swimming in. The TSAB wouldn't even need to involve rare, absurdly powerful people like Hayate or resort to WMDs, a crew of D-rank mages on a dinky old patrol ship like the Asura could 1v1 their entire civilization without contest. Nothing about this planet is dangerous to anyone but themselves, this whole operation is an act of charity on the part of Exceeds.

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What canon does StrikerS disregard?

In A's, it's made explicitly clear that the Wolkenritter avoided killing anyone out of respect for Hayate. In StrikerS, most of Hayate's motivation for rising in the ranks so quickly is guilt over the people her knights killed in a vain attempt to save her. It's an easy detail to miss since it's only explicitly stated once briefly, but it completely changes Hayate's trajectory as a character, and it's that same character arc that resulted in Mobile Section 6 existing. So I get why they retconned it, because StrikerS doesn't happen otherwise.

Well, that's not how I recall that fight ending. Is this a complete divergence from canon or are we about to see Nanoha pull a Starlight Breaker out of nowhere? ...

This isn't the fight they had in the show, this is happening after the incident is resolved but before the "say my name" bit where Fate and Nanoha meet again. Which is to say, this fight was already a complete divergence from canon.

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I wonder when we'll see their actual kid be born. You can still spot the jar/gestating device thingy in the background sometimes.

Maybe a series finale wherein they escape into reality and Hinani can safely let it reach viability without it distracting from the very reader attention keeping her and her lover alive? (I can dream, okay.)

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Wait, I'm lost. I accept being called dumb, but this is a manga version of the movie(s?), and it asks what if stuff was different. But I thought that the first movies were just abridged versions of the first two seasons.

I think A's is the only entry into Lyrical Nanoha canon that does not casually disregard Lyrical Nanoha canon as is convenient to tell the story they want to tell. Arguably including the original series, since it's loosely based off a Triangle Hearts gag short story. It's kind of a fixture, so as long as they're not doing something silly like changing someone's eye color for no reason whatsoever (no I'm not still angry you're angry), I'm fine with it.