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joined Aug 4, 2021

might have sauce, let's see where it ends up going with the gender themes

"expected to play the role of a girl" vs. yearning for a taboo love is a good start for yuri

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joined Apr 25, 2020

nice

joined Apr 1, 2018

Genderswap like this is totally fine, so long as it's permanent.

I am very much looking forward to this series!

Img_5712
joined Jan 3, 2022

Looking good so far, seems like she remembers lol lol

How'd they even get reincarnated anyways? I expect to learn bits and pieces gradually while enjoying some fluff and attempted rizz

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joined Jul 16, 2023

I love the direct "please marry me", Maou-sama though of this situation for at least 15y and he's just too nervous about it that he says up the first thing that come into his mind. So cute !

Kuroko-railgun
joined Jul 21, 2024

Now this is interesting!!
Despite this manga presenting itself as playful and comedic, I think it's actually going to be very interesting. It already introduces several intriguing plot layers in just the first chapter, making for a strong start. For one, how did our MC become a middle school girl? How did his attendant become an adult in this new world? And how will their romantic relationship develop? Overall, it's a great first chapter!! ^_^
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/maou_sama_re_re_revenge_ch01#19

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Emksz5tuyaupjuem
joined Apr 18, 2023

Well this is going to be interesting

joined Jun 11, 2021

i have a feeling she remembers lol. i like it so far

Cornonthekopp
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joined Jul 6, 2020

Wait till her childhood friend finds out lol

joined Jan 6, 2017

Biologically yuri is good enough for me, like Kashimashi.

I might be remembering wrong but wasn't Hazumu basically just a trans girl?

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joined Oct 16, 2016

Hmm, it's really cute but I don't know if I like the gender bender. I will see how it goes but I just can't get over it.

For me the gender bender is a reason not to pick it up especially with yuri tag added to it.
I just don't find any allure in reading a story about a guy changed into a girl and ending with a girl, since it's rather a fake yuri approach since in reality the mind is of an original male individual but now in conveniant female body, so basically heterosexual relation than a yuri one.

last edited at Jun 1, 2026 12:53PM

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

Hmm, it's really cute but I don't know if I like the gender bender. I will see how it goes but I just can't get over it.

For me the gender bender is a reason not to pick it up especially with yuri tag added to it.
I just don't find any allure in reading a story about a guy changed into a girl and ending with a girl, since it's rather a fake yuri approach since in reality the mind is of an original male individual but now in conveniant female body, so basically heterosexual relation than a yuri one.

I'm not saying you're being transphobic, I will say though that I have seen very openly transphobic people use this same line of logic. How someone can't be a girl because they have the mind of a boy, and the other way around. So be careful with that line of thinking.

In%20your%20butt
joined Jun 21, 2021

Hmm, it's really cute but I don't know if I like the gender bender. I will see how it goes but I just can't get over it.

For me the gender bender is a reason not to pick it up especially with yuri tag added to it.
I just don't find any allure in reading a story about a guy changed into a girl and ending with a girl, since it's rather a fake yuri approach since in reality the mind is of an original male individual but now in conveniant female body, so basically heterosexual relation than a yuri one.

I'm not saying you're being transphobic, I will say though that I have seen very openly transphobic people use this same line of logic. How someone can't be a girl because they have the mind of a boy, and the other way around. So be careful with that line of thinking.

I have to agree. Many a ppl with that line of thinking would call a trans woman "fake" just bc they say "back when i was a guy" about their pre-transition phase, which is asinine at best and actively malicious at worst.

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C6ecb18a42241236b33d8a43252bfaf1
joined Apr 30, 2020

Oh yay this is here. I must have missed it and hopefully not anymore as I can now add it to my subscribed list. I'm excited for the Age gap shenanigans.

Also, if there was a Demon Lord then there must have been a Hero/Heroine too. I wonder if that will come into play.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

A fun start, and certainly not what I expected at first. Which is not a bad thing at all, quite the opposite.

joined Oct 16, 2016

Hmm, it's really cute but I don't know if I like the gender bender. I will see how it goes but I just can't get over it.

For me the gender bender is a reason not to pick it up especially with yuri tag added to it.
I just don't find any allure in reading a story about a guy changed into a girl and ending with a girl, since it's rather a fake yuri approach since in reality the mind is of an original male individual but now in conveniant female body, so basically heterosexual relation than a yuri one.

I'm not saying you're being transphobic, I will say though that I have seen very openly transphobic people use this same line of logic. How someone can't be a girl because they have the mind of a boy, and the other way around. So be careful with that line of thinking.

No offense but for me personally transexual content has nothing to do with gender bender/gender swap type of stories.
Transexual people if they truly want to be of their desired gender they have to take hormones for life and take serious operations to change their body sex than what they were born with, while in gender bending stories the change is pretty much magical stuff, which has nothing to do with actual transition and it's mostly used for comedy purpose, so in a way gender bender stories itself as genre of fiction are transphobic and insulting in that way if you gonna look at it.

This story pretty much in single chapter confirms that approach by making an adult guy self take over 2 years old girl body and live her life as his own now, his stronger mind took over and we have him still thinking with his male mind monologues as narrator through the story about his past and love life and he still identifies as a guy in them.

For me such work is not a GL/yuri work, here we clearly see that the attraction to the woman came before him being changed into a female and it comes from him being a guy before, so hard to call it like that as girls love work if it's a heterosexual one.

Nyarin
joined Mar 20, 2012

Not all trans people go with gender affirming surgery or even take hormones. They are their gender regardless of if they transition or not.

Capture
joined Aug 12, 2021

Oh yay this is here. I must have missed it and hopefully not anymore as I can now add it to my subscribed list. I'm excited for the Age gap shenanigans.

Also, if there was a Demon Lord then there must have been a Hero/Heroine too. I wonder if that will come into play.

Interestingly there is a third character on the ch.1 cover on page 3 though he's pretty hidden to the left of Riri. I figure that's probably the hero and is (because he's there) probably going to come into play at some point.

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joined Aug 1, 2011

malibus88 posted:

Hmm, it's really cute but I don't know if I like the gender bender. I will see how it goes but I just can't get over it.

For me the gender bender is a reason not to pick it up especially with yuri tag added to it.
I just don't find any allure in reading a story about a guy changed into a girl and ending with a girl, since it's rather a fake yuri approach since in reality the mind is of an original male individual but now in conveniant female body, so basically heterosexual relation than a yuri one.

I'm not saying you're being transphobic, I will say though that I have seen very openly transphobic people use this same line of logic. How someone can't be a girl because they have the mind of a boy, and the other way around. So be careful with that line of thinking.

No offense but for me personally transexual content has nothing to do with gender bender/gender swap type of stories.
Transexual people if they truly want to be of their desired gender they have to take hormones for life and take serious operations to change their body sex than what they were born with, while in gender bending stories the change is pretty much magical stuff, which has nothing to do with actual transition and it's mostly used for comedy purpose, so in a way gender bender stories itself as genre of fiction are transphobic and insulting in that way if you gonna look at it.

This story pretty much in single chapter confirms that approach by making an adult guy self take over 2 years old girl body and live her life as his own now, his stronger mind took over and we have him still thinking with his male mind monologues as narrator through the story about his past and love life and he still identifies as a guy in them.

For me such work is not a GL/yuri work, here we clearly see that the attraction to the woman came before him being changed into a female and it comes from him being a guy before, so hard to call it like that as girls love work if it's a heterosexual one.

You do realize the whole point of fantasy is doing things that aren't possible in real life, right? Sure, if a person wants to medically transition, in reality, then they'll have to go through a long, hard, and imperfect process, but fiction isn't reality and it's pretty easy to understand why someone might want to imagine a world where they don't have to do that.

Also, like ninryu said, not every transperson needs to or wants to medically transition or medically transition to the same extent.

sans empathie
joined May 28, 2026

Hmm, it's really cute but I don't know if I like the gender bender. I will see how it goes but I just can't get over it.

For me the gender bender is a reason not to pick it up especially with yuri tag added to it.
I just don't find any allure in reading a story about a guy changed into a girl and ending with a girl, since it's rather a fake yuri approach since in reality the mind is of an original male individual but now in conveniant female body, so basically heterosexual relation than a yuri one.

I'm not saying you're being transphobic, I will say though that I have seen very openly transphobic people use this same line of logic. How someone can't be a girl because they have the mind of a boy, and the other way around. So be careful with that line of thinking.

No offense but for me personally transexual content has nothing to do with gender bender/gender swap type of stories.
Transexual people if they truly want to be of their desired gender they have to take hormones for life and take serious operations to change their body sex than what they were born with, while in gender bending stories the change is pretty much magical stuff, which has nothing to do with actual transition and it's mostly used for comedy purpose, so in a way gender bender stories itself as genre of fiction are transphobic and insulting in that way if you gonna look at it.

This story pretty much in single chapter confirms that approach by making an adult guy self take over 2 years old girl body and live her life as his own now, his stronger mind took over and we have him still thinking with his male mind monologues as narrator through the story about his past and love life and he still identifies as a guy in them.

For me such work is not a GL/yuri work, here we clearly see that the attraction to the woman came before him being changed into a female and it comes from him being a guy before, so hard to call it like that as girls love work if it's a heterosexual one.

That wasn't the Demon Lord taking over a toddler's body. That was the Demon Lord's consciousness "coming back online" and recalling her past life as the Demon Lord, while still building memories as her present self.

And all the "masc pronoun use" all coincide with flashbacks/remembering past events. Every time the MC is thinking/speaking in the "present tense/moment", it's all feminine pronoun usage. That's no different from a transwoman talking about her pre-transition life saying "back then when I(oru)...and now I(watashi)"

So if you do want to nitpick, I suggest ensuring you're actually accurate with the criticisms you cite in the chapter itself.

Teru%20frown
joined Jul 9, 2020

Not really a fan of age gap, but I do love the possibility that Riri 1. Remembers her past life, 2. Is totally on board with this development and 3. Teasing Ooma for making her wait so long.

Also the whole 'lv100 adaptability', pronoun switching, on board with this new life and a bit of the apparent fixation on filling roles reads as possible gender fluid to me. (Not to paint gender fluid people with a broad brush. It's just that some of the gender fluid people I've known has described their experience as gravitating towards one role or another depending on situation.)

That wasn't the Demon Lord taking over a toddler's body. That was the Demon Lord's consciousness "coming back online" and recalling her past life as the Demon Lord, while still building memories as her present self.

Seconding this. It was "my brain wasn't developed enough to recall my past life", not "and that's when I possessed a kid." Every time I've encountered a work talking about a character's "sense of self emerged", it was in regards to recovering from amnesia or breaking out of mind control.

C6ecb18a42241236b33d8a43252bfaf1
joined Apr 30, 2020

Interestingly there is a third character on the ch.1 cover on page 3 though he's pretty hidden to the left of Riri. I figure that's probably the hero and is (because he's there) probably going to come into play at some point.

And then they become a girl too!

joined Oct 16, 2016

You do realize the whole point of fantasy is doing things that aren't possible in real life, right? Sure, if a person wants to medically transition, in reality, then they'll have to go through a long, hard, and imperfect process, but fiction isn't reality and it's pretty easy to understand why someone might want to imagine a world where they don't have to do that.

Also, like ninryu said, not every transperson needs to or wants to medically transition or medically transition to the same extent.

Let's agree to disagree then.
This work is not a fantasy work of a guy wanting to become a girl and magically getting his wish granted and turning into one.
Also if you truly think this author cares or is protrans or anything related to that you are quite naive person.
Most japanese GB authors don't really give a finger about supporting that cause GB works aren't for such kind of audience, they are mostly for fetishizing girl x girl relation with excuse of putting a guy as lead in some form cause such "yuri" is more acceptable to some type of readership cause for japanese it's stil a male x female relation (like in Ayakashi Triangle for comparison or in Onimai).
Only Kashimashi breaks this trope but only cause the lead even as a boy, for brief time we learn about him before the change, basically acts like a girl in it already so it comes natural.
And in this case author feels enormous need to show us him being a guy in previous life and especially that his love for that woman started from before while he was still a guy and not being born after him becoming a woman so it rather still shows us it's heterosexual love than a GL one.
This story could easily work if the lead was a Demon Queen in previous life, but we know why author didn't use such angle cause it would actually make it a yuri/GL title for real than GB romance of what it is in reality than a yuri one.

Internet_lied
joined Jul 15, 2016

I love Riri already.

How'd they even get reincarnated anyways?

I am suspecting this ended the way such stories stereotypically end in JRPGs: a hero(ine?) showed up and killed the Demon Lord. What's more, the fact of the Age gap strongly implies that Riri was killed (or died) way ahead of Maou, which means that he has had at least a few years to think about his failure to confess in his past life, as well.

Leaping%20cow
joined Sep 27, 2017

You do realize the whole point of fantasy is doing things that aren't possible in real life, right? Sure, if a person wants to medically transition, in reality, then they'll have to go through a long, hard, and imperfect process, but fiction isn't reality and it's pretty easy to understand why someone might want to imagine a world where they don't have to do that.

Also, like ninryu said, not every transperson needs to or wants to medically transition or medically transition to the same extent.

Let's agree to disagree then.
This work is not a fantasy work of a guy wanting to become a girl and magically getting his wish granted and turning into one.
Also if you truly think this author cares or is protrans or anything related to that you are quite naive person.
Most japanese GB authors don't really give a finger about supporting that cause GB works aren't for such kind of audience, they are mostly for fetishizing girl x girl relation with excuse of putting a guy as lead in some form cause such "yuri" is more acceptable to some type of readership cause for japanese it's stil a male x female relation (like in Ayakashi Triangle for comparison or in Onimai).
Only Kashimashi breaks this trope but only cause the lead even as a boy, for brief time we learn about him before the change, basically acts like a girl in it already so it comes natural.
And in this case author feels enormous need to show us him being a guy in previous life and especially that his love for that woman started from before while he was still a guy and not being born after him becoming a woman so it rather still shows us it's heterosexual love than a GL one.
This story could easily work if the lead was a Demon Queen in previous life, but we know why author didn't use such angle cause it would actually make it a yuri/GL title for real than GB romance of what it is in reality than a yuri one.

You're making a whole lot of assumptions and generalizations here, especially after only 1 chapter. If you hate gender bender simply black list the tag and move on.

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