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Nyarin
joined Mar 20, 2012

Where would you read Tomorrow When I Wake Up?

It's on Mangadex. You can request for it to be uploaded here.

I just reread it, and yeah, they fucking.

autumnwillow
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joined Aug 24, 2024

Where would you read Tomorrow When I Wake Up?

It's on Mangadex. You can request for it to be uploaded here.

I just reread it, and yeah, they fucking.

Thank, it did help with a sense of closure on Room for Two.

The end note though:

I've been thinking a lot lately about what "healing" really means. Being with people can be tiring at times, but somehow it also cheers me up and makes me feel healed in various ways. By the way, this doujinshi is based on a series called "Futaribeya," which has ten volumes. If you haven't read it yet, I recommend checking it out. I hope it brings a moment of healing to you.

No, no Room for Two doesn’t bring a sense of healing, it’s always been like an open wound due to your deliberately opaque narrative design choices in volumes 9 and 10.

This has to be an ironic taunt. Yukiko, you utter monster.

angrily shakes fist and asks for more

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joined Oct 27, 2018

Platonic literally just means not romantic. You can't be both. Unless you want to claim that romantic couples don't love eachother in non-romantic or sexual ways. Which is absurd.

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joined Mar 11, 2014

I do appreciate that this nebulous relationship gray area is being addressed in the text itself. While it won't be personally satisfying to me if they have a platonic, non-sexual cohabitation relationship, if that's the intention of the author then I would accept that. It's most frustrating when it just isn't addressed and we're left to guess about what's going on.

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joined Sep 1, 2017

But PERSONALLY I am desperately headcanoning that this is Sakurako trying to convince herself that she’s happy with how things are. I am going to read too deeply into it but I want to believe that the reason she has this little monologue about change on tap is because it’s what she tells herself. I would love to think that the reason yukiko includes Hinako mentioning how scary the chance of losing the relationship is, is because that’s what Sakurako is most afraid of.

Ditto.
It always felt like Sakurako was putting in all the effort in maintaining their relationship, while Kasumi just went with the flow, following the path of least resistance. I kept saying it doesn't feel like Kasumi has had her all in moment yet. But people told me that I was crazy, and that they were a happy couple.
I wonder if it's people who were so convinced that Sakurako and Kasumi were a couple are the ones that are calling it bait.

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joined Jul 26, 2023

Sakurako had no problem before to label others relationships. She wonders if her sister and the other girl are dating. She asks Kasumi if she would want to date her in the special of vol 9, Kasumi says she will think about it. In chapter 72 Sakurako panics about Kasumi possibly wanting to leave her. Later they are talking about celebrating days, and the day between their birthdays is brought up, and sakurako says that some couples try to marry on that day. Kasumi is wondering if what she feels for Sakurako is romantic love or not. And later this https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_special_the_arrival_of_spring#16 so she is open to it. Even later, when her junior asks her if she intersted in an office romance she says no, but thinks "We see eachother at home anyways." Sakurako gets jealous at the idea of Kasumi going on a date with someone else. And now it's like, nah, not important. They are in a romantic relationship is my take. They way they think about each other they don't about others. Call it what you want, or don't call it anything.

Edit: Also, I thought dating was the thing you do to see if you want to be in a romantic relationship?

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Edit: Also, I thought dating was the thing you do to see if you want to be in a romantic relationship?

In everyday speech that’s what it usually means; in yuri fan discourse it’s often a substitute for “Are they fucking, or getting ready to?”

Rena_home_1
joined Aug 8, 2012

≻My fucking face when you people are STILL discussing whether or not Futaribeya is "really yuri".... You guys didn't believe us (Girls in Boxes - the original scanlators) when we told you and you STILL don't believe it even though it's been slammed in your faces again and again. I totally give up. There's absolutely not pleasing/satisfying you guys. You all are hopeless...
(I evidently can't paste an image here, but just imagine an image macro of someone being disgusted by what's going on)
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joined Jan 14, 2020

I just reread it, and yeah, they fucking.

Well, Kasumi has probably fucked at least once, unless she's embarrassed about having never done so.


Going by what we're actually shown, the most natural conclusion is that Sakurako has mostly unrequited thirst for a mostly asexual Kasumi, who maybe lets her indulge herself once in a while. Life roommates with occasional benefits. Which makes readers sad for Sakurako.

joined Jun 26, 2025

I think their relationship was 100% romance but sakurako just know her feeling better than kasumi but it doesn't mean kasumi doesn't love sakurako she really love sakurako from the first day they met they really are perfect match for each other that is reason why kasumi doesn't notice or pay attention for her feeling for sakurako until vol.9 or 10 and I think they don't need to put label on their relatonship at this point bc they literally are everything to each other friend family and lover and another reason i think they are in romantic relationship bc in TOMORROW, WHEN I WAKE UP... moka asked kasumi about kasumi first time and kasumi blushed yeah!! she blushed for me kasumi is type of girl who really straight forward if she haven't seg yet i think she just say no that mean it has only one meaning... they already have seggg

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joined Apr 4, 2022

Soulmates beyond labels is very yuri

joined Aug 4, 2020

can y'all even remember those characters

joined Mar 21, 2016

Even characters in story are frustrated with how undefined the relatiionship is.

I can't help wonder if they have a sex life with each other. We know Sakurako has a sex drive but it has always been questionable about Kasumi.

If you read yukiko’s oneshot “Tomorrow When I Wake Up”, it indirectly implies that they did have a sexual relationship and possibly continue to have.
I think it’s decently important because as Hinako says, the label of ‘platonic relationship’ doesn’t quite fit them.

Given how complete Futaribeya is as a story and how insistently yukiko has repeated saku’s desire not to be bound by labels, I’m inclined to believe that that’s the intention: that Sakurako (Kasumi doesn’t seem to really care) doesn’t believe the words ‘dating’ or ‘girlfriends’ fits them.

But PERSONALLY I am desperately headcanoning that this is Sakurako trying to convince herself that she’s happy with how things are. I am going to read too deeply into it but I want to believe that the reason she has this little monologue about change on tap is because it’s what she tells herself. I would love to think that the reason yukiko includes Hinako mentioning how scary the chance of losing the relationship is, is because that’s what Sakurako is most afraid of.

Where would you read Tomorrow When I Wake Up?

I literally googled, 'yukiko's oneshot "Tomorrow When I Wake Up," ' and found it on Manga Dex. lol, and thank you commenter that mentioned it, because I had no idea that one-shot existed.

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joined Jan 30, 2017

Futaribeya keeps being one of the most divisive works in yuri media lol. I can understand why some people might find it frustrating, but calling it bait is ridiculous when literally everyone of the main characters is queer and has a partner.

It always felt like Sakurako was putting in all the effort in maintaining their relationship, while Kasumi just went with the flow, following the path of least resistance

I can see where that comes from, but there are little moments here and there that show that Kasumi is actually really happy to have Sakurako be part of her life. It's not unrequited, it's just that Kasumi is not a very expressive person.

Ultimately, I see Kasumi and Sakurako as a pair of people somewhere on the demi/ace spectrum that don't want to put a label on their relationship, and that's fine. They still live together and make each other happy, that's what matters. Not every couple on earth needs to go through the same scripted path.

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joined Jul 26, 2023

Refusing to label a thing doesn't mean the thing doesn't exist. They have some sort of relationship that they don't have with others. It's special, it's exclusive to them both. https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_special_3_under_the_cherry_trees#15 "we're the only ones here, after all"

Like people saying it was always clear, I don't get that? The point of romantic love and dating has been brought up numerous times, especially in vol 9 and 10 with these two specifically. https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_special_the_arrival_of_spring#16 How else I am supposed to see this as Kasumi being okay with loving sakurako in a romantic way. How are we the readers not supposed to think about this when the characters do it? Even if they are aro/ace or demi, that doesn't mean they can't be in a relationship, which I see dating meaning. A relationship just means you have a bond together based on your feelings for eachother, wether those are romantic or not. It feels like some people are saying there is nothing here between these two and that is just untrue. See again "we're the only ones here, after all". You don't just say that to anyone. This to me is when they decide, yes, we are a thing. What is that thing? we don't know, we don't care, but it is a thing and we are happy with it.

Again, not labeling the thing doesn't mean the thing doesn't exist.

I just feel like the author wanted to be deep for no reason at all by refusing the label. It would have been more genuine to me if Sakurako had answered "I don't know." to the question of them dating. That's not caring about labels. Instead, she says no, we aren't. It seems people are just applying a strict meaning to dating that actually is not true, especially when they use it sense of being in a relationship. For people who say they don't care about labels, y'all seem to have pretty strict definitions of labels and wether or not they apply. Saying they aren't X or Y is the same labeling as saying they are X or Y.

Also, in this chapter Sakurako says nothing has changed, but literally the special before this she says so much has changed and she thinks it will keep changing. https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_special_3_under_the_cherry_trees#7 The writing is contradicting itself.

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joined Sep 10, 2022

Refusing to label a thing doesn't mean the thing doesn't exist. They have some sort of relationship that they don't have with others. It's special, it's exclusive to them both. https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_special_3_under_the_cherry_trees#15 "we're the only ones here, after all"

Like people saying it was always clear, I don't get that? The point of romantic love and dating has been brought up numerous times, especially in vol 9 and 10 with these two specifically. https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_special_the_arrival_of_spring#16 How else I am supposed to see this as Kasumi being okay with loving sakurako in a romantic way. How are we the readers not supposed to think about this when the characters do it? Even if they are aro/ace or demi, that doesn't mean they can't be in a relationship, which I see dating meaning. A relationship just means you have a bond together based on your feelings for eachother, wether those are romantic or not. It feels like some people are saying there is nothing here between these two and that is just untrue. See again "we're the only ones here, after all". You don't just say that to anyone. This to me is when they decide, yes, we are a thing. What is that thing? we don't know, we don't care, but it is a thing and we are happy with it.

Again, not labeling the thing doesn't mean the thing doesn't exist.

I just feel like the author wanted to be deep for no reason at all by refusing the label. It would have been more genuine to me if Sakurako had answered "I don't know." to the question of them dating. That's not caring about labels. Instead, she says no, we aren't. It seems people are just applying a strict meaning to dating that actually is not true, especially when they use it sense of being in a relationship. For people who say they don't care about labels, y'all seem to have pretty strict definitions of labels and wether or not they apply. Saying they aren't X or Y is the same labeling as saying they are X or Y.

Also, in this chapter Sakurako says nothing has changed, but literally the special before this she says so much has changed and she thinks it will keep changing. https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/a_room_for_two_special_3_under_the_cherry_trees#7 The writing is contradicting itself.

Personally, I think it's mostly some readers that overcomplicate things. Otherwise, the series is generally received lightly, as one about a lovely relationship between an unconventional but sweet couple. The series rejected all labels for them, not just romantic ones. "Platonic" was specifically rejected. It's a healing series. I still don't understand the few people who said they'd rather head cannon that the characters aren't actually satisfied than accept what the story is presenting about their comfort and happiness. That one really confused me. It feels like going against traditional labels (or convention in general) creates tension no matter where you go, and releasing that tension requires the characters to be unsatisfied in some way because "of course, if you don't follow these established habits you'd be unsatisfied, right?" That line of thinking is just too familiar.

I do agree with you for the most part about their relationship status and the labels not being important. I don't agree that the author is trying to be deep. I think it's something simple to accept at face value, so long as we're willing to listen to the characters when they say they're happy and content, and when the series ends that way--unless someone thinks the intended ending for the series is meant to be negative (which nothing really supports). It's fine not to fully understand how they'd make it work or to accept I'd not be able to do the same but also to accept them when they say repeatedly that they have made it work and are now happy. There's a level of understanding and meaningful discussion every character in this series has and an ability to listen to one another's preferences.

I appreciate the author expressing how much peace and joy the series has generated for its readers. I imagine that's what most readers have taken from it after all these years and why it could survive for as long as it did. Give her afterwords, I cant imagine she would expect so much back and forth about this stuff and the assumption that her MCs are settling and not satisfied in the end but maybe I'm wrong. Turning a sweet, relaxed series like this one into something else is a big stretch for me that I don't fully understand because you have to really ignore so much of what it's presenting (and how it ends) to make that reading work and I don't understand the impetus for that in the first place. This is not a series that would end negatively. It's a pure as you can get. It's a comfort series or "warm and fuzzy" as I noticed many Japanese comments typically say over the years. Beyond that she did so much to show their loving relationship, labels or not. That's the takeaway, isn't it?

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Although I guess there’s no way of knowing for sure, I wonder how much of the story’s latter-day attention to labeling was in response to reader comments about the supposed need to “clarify” the MC’s relationship.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Always remember:

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Nyarin
joined Mar 20, 2012

Looking at Yukiko's other works the rejection of labels is a very deliberate statement. A lot of her manga deal with non-conformity in some ways.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

It's honestly a weirdly immature mindset to me. Like yes, the manga portrays it as being so mature. But to me it really feels like the childish urge to come across as so special and unique, "our relationship isn't friendship or romance, it's special and unique, you wouldn't understand, we are so much more enlightened than all those people who would just call it dating".

Honestly yeah, that might be the most reasonable take on it.

I did try to assume the characters know their situation best and their relationship is firmly established and understood, hence why I said "taking what Sakurako says at face value" and looked at the tags in that light. I've now changed my mind.

The easiest and only reasonable way to read this manga is that they are indeed girlfriend (how they live their relationship is up to them, "girlfriends" encompasses a lot of things after), and the refusal to use labels because "muh special" comes from immaturity from either the characters or the author.

The readers replying in the comments saying "they're a romantic couple, but they're not girlfriends !" just emphasized and made me realize the nonsense of the premise of this chapter (refusing "labels" as if there's only one type of romantic relationship, or as if they'd lose something if they called themselves girlfriends) and made me realize trying to go with what the manga says isn't mature, it's just silly.

Whether the author got tunnel vision and tried to maintain a "they're not girlfriends" narrative while writing them as girlfriends, or it's all an elaborate meta-joke about "they're roommates", I don't know. Nor do I think it's particularly smart, as there doesn't seem to be a theme or message being sent there other than "they're special". Either way, at some point, it's not worth trying to stick to what the author or characters say, over what the actual story itself says.

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Dark_Tzitzimine
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joined Dec 18, 2013

Man, that last page felt like Yukiko talking to the reader to shut them off about needing a label for their relationship. I sort of get where is she coming from but I still think is unsatisfying to refuse defining what they are.

joined Jan 14, 2020

Labels schlabels: we want to know if Sakurako is having a sexually satisfying relationship.

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joined Apr 19, 2018

Whenever this gets any update, a voice in my head just screams "YUKIKOOOOOOOOOO!!!!"

Sasuga master manganka

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EclecticWanderer
joined Jan 26, 2026

Labels schlabels: we want to know if Sakurako is having a sexually satisfying relationship.

for real!!!!

addressing the discussion generally: I don’t think anyone seriously questions whether or not futaribeya is a yuri manga or not: yeah it is. People just want a bit more closure, and I think that’s fine! We can’t say anything about yukiko’s intentions, but everyone is free to interpret literature the way they see best.

commented mostly to mention that I think yukiko’s other oneshot “White Ribbon Against The Blue Sky” is also not on this site, if you can’t get enough futaribeya and haven’t read it yet! As of time of writing it is on mangadex.

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