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joined Apr 16, 2022

furthermore, the whole attempted rape scene at the start i think could be symbolic of how victims of trauma usualyl become the abusers (cycle of abuse) or internalize/normalize the abusive behaviours that have happened to them- making them feel like a monster, different, disgusting, etc.

You seem to be confusing the original Niehara eaten by our favorite worm with the monster who replaced him.

Monster Niehara also attempted to rape Itou in Chapter 11.

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

furthermore, the whole attempted rape scene at the start i think could be symbolic of how victims of trauma usualyl become the abusers (cycle of abuse) or internalize/normalize the abusive behaviours that have happened to them- making them feel like a monster, different, disgusting, etc.

You seem to be confusing the original Niehara eaten by our favorite worm with the monster who replaced him.

Monster Niehara also attempted to rape Itou in Chapter 11.

Right, forgot about that.

joined Jul 26, 2024

@JuniperPengold

In fact, I still use they/them for Niehara the most part, though sometimes I use she/her due to my aforementioned interpretation. There's ultimately no contradiction between a transfem interpretation of Niehara and one that has them using they/them pronouns; I know other transfems IRL who only go by they/them.

You are right I suppose. One reason why I don't use the terms transfeminine and transmasculine is that they are vague and can be used different ways by different people. I don't feel like I receive much information if it's not meant as an analogue for trans man or woman, whereas trans man / trans woman / nonbinary are used in a more consistent way. I also don't care about people's birth assignment that much unless it's relevant for some reason.

However, there are certainly people who identify as transfeminine or transmasculine while using they/them pronouns. If you all were thinking of it that way then I will concede it's a correct usage.

@Cogito

I think a transfem analysis of Niehara could be very interesting, but I think it needs to be informed by a similar analysis of Takahashi, who I feel is much more clearly transfem since she seems much more committed to presenting as a girl.

I'm not sure she is. She can't change as easily, so once she picks a suit she sticks with it. We have not seen any evidence of her ever using a male suit, but that doesn't mean she hasn't done it or dislikes it. More info will come in future chapters, which should give more of a sense of if she has any history or feelings about this topic.

Monster Niehara also attempted to rape Itou in Chapter 11.

I still think this may not have been a real attempt but a pretend action to manipulate Takahashi. That is some dark content if they were imitating their own abuser, though.

Given earlier posts by other commenters, I should say that is NOT generally what abused people do. It is what abused people do who internalized their abuser's actions as morally justified. For instance, many abused boys become adults who feel violence is the natural response to weakness. They are hyper vigilant about maintaining that dominant position of strength for themselves to prevent a repeat of what they experienced. They feel justified using violence to achieve this.

An abused boy who feels it was wrong for him to be abused is likely to have emotional issues as an adult, like overreacting to criticism or assuming negative intentions from others. Despite that, they will not employ violence as a strategy in the same way because they feel no one is justified in being treated that way. Most likely, they had some type of support to help them understand what they were experiencing was not their fault or justified. They are more likely to be involved in advocacy than to employ violence as a strategy.

Real life abused people are not mimics who feel that they have no valued identity nor any moral worth, though. Slender might really imitate actions they see as unjustified, as they themselves as fulfilling that type of role in a story.

@JavelinR

I don't think the author wants you too feel too bad for the mimic, given what they did immediately after that backstory. Rather I think it shows it's species doesn't know much, or anything, about humanity by the time they first take human form. Her/his first experience with a human was an abuser obsessed with movies. And now the mimic thinks nothing of hurting others while obsessing over acting out it's own movie.

Even a mimic as articulate as Mr. N is still operating off a mimic logic. I think that's the point of the backstory. You can say "monsters don't operate off the same logic as humans", but this chapter shows how one type of monster develops and what it takes from its experiences.

... Sounds about right, as far as that goes, which is the part of the story that has no real world analogue.

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joined Dec 28, 2017

In the picture hiraizumi has the same sort of eyes as a known monster. Was she a monster? Was she hunting our main character and thats why? It seems random for Mister N to do this otherwise....

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joined Apr 5, 2023

...Huh, so did they reproduce or are they capable of handling two bodies at the same time...? I thought that it was some sort of digestive enzyme being vomited into her mouth, but if eating the body was necessary to mimic it, then they wouldn't have been able to mimic the original Niehara since it was Takahashi who ate him. Or is this just some temporary body control...?

Bullyme
joined Apr 28, 2022

I hope the stupid he/she teacher hurries up and dies I'm so tired of them. Are we supposed to care about them because we saw their awful backstory? Because Every time I see them I just wish they would up and die. I feel bad for Itou she was finally gaining real friends and this stupid idiot just wont go away and now has murdered one of them.

This series really frustrates me oh well Thanks for the translate and upload

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joined Apr 18, 2023

it just feels horrible reading this chapter, like we all know she dies, but i just genuinely feel sick

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joined Feb 16, 2016

i'm sad

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joined Jul 9, 2020

...Huh, so did they reproduce or are they capable of handling two bodies at the same time...?

My read is that slendy's got some kind of mind control parasite implanting ability (though that may have just been an extended tongue going into her mouth for... reasons?)... But I'm not sure my initial read is accurate, since there's no setup for a puppeteering ability (unless I forgot something) and if it's a parasite breaking her neck seems counterproductive.

Maybe it is reproduction and slendy's larval form needs a corpse to manipulate until it's fully developed / can shapeshift? Since as pointed out in an above comment, slendy didn't need Mister N's skin to turn into him.

Slendy's flashback form was pretty confused and suggestible when the creep found her... But also couldn't speak at first. So thinking about it, reproduction seems like a closer fit, but not a perfect one based on available information?

In either case, this just reaffirms that the only solution to slendy is the heavy flamer.

Cornonthekopp
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joined Jul 6, 2020

I hope the stupid he/she teacher hurries up and dies I'm so tired of them. Are we supposed to care about them because we saw their awful backstory? Because Every time I see them I just wish they would up and die. I feel bad for Itou she was finally gaining real friends and this stupid idiot just wont go away and now has murdered one of them.

This series really frustrates me oh well Thanks for the translate and upload

Mister N is absolutely the antagonist here lol, this chapter was intended to shock and horrify us as the readers, because its a story about human-devouring monsters

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joined Oct 14, 2014

when was this release done? I swear I have volume 2 already, what preorder?!

joined Jul 26, 2024

I suspect there's more to this than we saw, but that we're not moving toward "Slender did nothing wrong". I mean that there were other ways of handling whatever this was meant to address, but that this is how Slender knows to do things and feels is their role as an antagonist.

The idea that the insides were eaten is interesting, as that would explain why Takahashi skin suit was found. Kind of weird to just leave the skin out in a park though. Slender seems more cautious than that.

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JuniperPengold
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joined Feb 12, 2025

I hope the stupid he/she teacher hurries up and dies I'm so tired of them.

Are you seriously taking potshots at Niehara's gender-nonconformity when the chapter involves them snapping someone's neck

autumnwillow
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joined Aug 24, 2024

I hope the stupid he/she teacher hurries up and dies I'm so tired of them.

Seriously, wtf

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joined Jan 3, 2026

I hate mr n man

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Interesting...

joined Aug 11, 2022

Thanks for the chapter!!!

Hmm...Were the first few pages of this chapter a dream from hiraizumi while she was dying or did that really happen in the past and Slender-chan had made a move on Hiraizumi in the past....But anyways RIP...You had the crush on the wrong teacher...

MC...If your grandmother was sort of monster hunter...I hope you got her monster hunter genes, instincts and talent because your going to need it for the battle/war with slender-chan... Yeah...Fight or Flight (Most people pick fear/shock and flee but MC is ready to fight which is not the 'normal')

You know slender-chan made a proposal in the past to the MC in previous chapters about replacing everyone around with her/MC environment with monsters...I had thought at the time slender-chan meant replacing them with other monsters and monster-like creatures...Not basically reproducing or splitting a part of itself to use as a half/split puppet...Obviously doesn't have full access or very very very limited access to the puppet body's memories though considering MC was called -San instead of a lovable weird nickname.

Anyways she/he teacher...don't care about the gender pronouns right now or whatever the issue or misunderstanding that is happening in the comments above (Maybe misunderstanding or making fun up of something, don't know since I can't read minds across the internet), that not important since slender-chan can become male, female or somewhat it wants...The more important thing/issue is that 'It' had finally crossed the forbidden line and made MC it's enemy forever...Worm-chan is going to side with MC hopefully considering if the previous chapters were somewhat accurate. They had made a very big mistake...Lost any chance of friendship/romance with MC. GG.

Worm-chan X MC true OTP!!!!

Time to kill and eliminate slender-chan...Though how will MC do it? That is the main question of concern...

last edited at May 24, 2026 10:36PM

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joined May 21, 2021

Didn't know that this one only has 3 volumes. Somehow I thought it was still ongoing.

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