WHAT IF THEY’RE BOTH SUBS / SWITCHES :O

I'd love a tag that has rejection in it . I need more stories where mc gets heartbroken D:

Go read some really old school stuff, especially one-shot and fairly short. Yuri used to be ALL about that. Then you get the generation of like Morinaga Milk and Morishima Akiko who were like "Why shouldn't we have nice things like the straights do?! Screw this 'yuri is sadness' schtick, we're going for the gusto!" But even after that, if you look at the stuff in Tsubomi there's a lot of heartbreak.

I also despise seeing BDSM get used in toxic works. I hate the fact the kink is viewed as "that fetish where people hurt each other", when it's in fact entirely predicated on consent, communication, trust, and love. Setting boundaries and establishing dynamics and what kinds of play the partners are looking for is important, and seeing that being wholly eschewed feels kind of... Dubious to me.

A fictional work that does not claim to educate on the topic of BDSM has no obligation to fulfill that function; it's not the responsibility of artists and creatives if the sex education people receive is often severely lacking. And the charge that a fictional work is misleading about BDSM requires a stronger case than just calling its story vaguely "toxic".

If vast segments of the population believe that sexual acts in the context of BDSM are magically except from requiring consent, the situation is so cooked that just more wholesome depictions of BDSM are not enough to fix it. As for the importance of things like communication, trust, and boundaries, these principles are hardly followed consistently in queer dating outside the context of BDSM, never mind straight dating where sex is still largely viewed as something a man takes from a woman. So I don't understand being this concerned about the fictional depictions of specifically BDSM, as if our society had dating and sex all figured out otherwise. You might as well be mad at any sexual content in "toxic" works for not dispelling people's misconceptions and nasty beliefs about sex in general.

Not trying to argue for Caku here, but that first paragraph misses the point. Yes, this isn't sex ed - nobody claimed it is or should be. Doesn't change the fact some people might not enjoy such a trope for various reasons. Imagine the point instead was the narrative cliché of portraying savage populations in fantasy almost always with cultural references that are decidedly not caucasian or east asian. Or how suspiciously much asexual representation in fiction is in the form of non-human and/or unemotional characters. It's perfectly fine for people to simply not like or even criticize such an authorial decision.

No single work can be held responsible for greater societal problems, and you can't categorically condemn elements of fiction (daily reminder that Magneto is a jewish member of a secret cabal with advanced technology and an agenda of world domination and population control who controls rare metals) but shutting down all attempts to discuss the topic via highbrow dismissal is most surely not helping anybody. Doubly so since BDSM (especially in the unrelated horror genre) is associated with some really skewed ideas that cause real harm.

Besides, these two are morons. Ill intent is given on the MC's side at least, but so far all their BDSM was teasing, semi-serious pet play. Tonally, I doubt they'll be able to really harm another.

Like some of the other commenters, I'm pretty curious if the necklace will come back into play.

I’m surprised she didn’t take the necklace off while washing up. Maybe it has more significance than she’s letting on? It feels like it could be important since it's drawn on her character for both of these first two chapter since their reunion.

Oooor maybe she really doesn’t give a damn, didn’t think to take it off, and doesn’t care if it rusts

what a mess lol i can't even tell what the author's point is

what a mess lol i can't even tell what the author's point is

The point is hot yuri BDSM.

What do y’all think the over-under is that Amano flips it on her and makes her the dog?

dog

What do y’all think the over-under is that Amano flips it on her and makes her the dog?

I think she's pretty much one already.

mutual puppygirlification

"And so, they were both bottoms"

wow the second half of this chapter just got released less than 24 hours ago, y'all work fast

anyways this is good food mmmm i love the power dynamic they have

They are certainly perfect for each other. :D

Yeah for translator notes, yeah...good to know the context but future dumb mutt GF (Not the MC) is obviously not the best in social communication...4 out 10 rating in how to gently refuse and let someone down confession. Probably not meant to be harsh but sadly not enough INT/WISDOM stats.

MC do not turn into a bottom!!! That would be humiliating and embarrassing!! Only turn into a bottom if your future dumb mutt GF is also a bottom or find out that your both switches like one comment said!!!!!

Though I still suggest just getting your revenge then getting her out of your life (Belong to the street like other comments said)....but eh....sadly MC and her future dumb mutt GF will end up getting together from how the story is going...You would think MC would be recognized by her former crush from her voice...I know MC changed her looks (No glasses and dye hair) but eh I guess dumb mutt GF does not have enough brain cells to store and remember the exact sound of her voice...

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"And so, they were both bottoms"

Power bottoms.

Oh they are both such idiots. I can't wait for the 'fallout' and subsequent make up

The tables are turning back and forth so often this is basically a spin table at this point ...

...You would think MC would be recognized by her former crush from her voice...I know MC changed her looks (No glasses and dye hair) but eh I guess dumb mutt GF does not have enough brain cells to store and remember the exact sound of her voice...

shes forgetful and probably meets lots of girls and being horny doesnt help
also, mc's voice might be louder and confident after hanging with the girls and selfcare, have you ever witnessed a glow up? ppl start hitting the gym and mfs become different ppl

I hope our mc gets better at being a Dom or whatever. She wants to be taken seriously but it's even clear to Amano she doesn't know what she's doing. Like the "Wear the collar so you don't forget me cuz we're matching!" Should've been "You better keep that collar on, we're matching. " or something. Not sure why I thought about this, ig it's just me hoping they get the relationship they want.

A fictional work that does not claim to educate on the topic of BDSM has no obligation to fulfill that function; it's not the responsibility of artists and creatives if the sex education people receive is often severely lacking. And the charge that a fictional work is misleading about BDSM requires a stronger case than just calling its story vaguely "toxic".

You know what fiction is really misleading about? Serial killers.

Serial killers in fiction are generally twisted super-geniuses with extravagant MOs that consist of leaving erudite clues in 11th-dimensional mind games with their pursuers, climaxing in the serial killers entrapping the MC detective or one of their loved ones in a torture-chamber secret base where there’s no cell-phone reception.

But the default real-life serial killer is mostly a nondescript schlubby guy (almost always a guy) who picks up marginalized people in society off the streets, kills them quickly, and dumps their bodies in remote areas.

So the connection with this story is . . . wait a minute, I was going somewhere with this . . .

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BARK BARK BARK BARK BARK

Im a nasty dog

Surprisingly good this wow

I'm not a fan of I-have-a-lot-of-sexfriends-lol characters. But still, this does look..interesting.
(And as always, some people take things too seriously.)

"Hard to tell which one of us is the doggy, right?"

ITS ME!!! BARK BARK BARK

ASTRONOMICAL POWER BOTTOM MOVE, LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO

EDIT: i totally forgot that my avatar is no longer a dog. wasted joke

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My read is that Yuhi actually rejected Sakurako because she saw her as way too far above her.

It's already something to follow around someone you see as beneath you as a lost puppy, but that could be chalked up to repression. It's just weird to immediately go out and buy the yuri novel they were reading on the vaguest annoyed suggestion, and when you look at the girls Yuhi plays around with, you see girls who are pretty clearly an onee-san and an imouto. The novel of course was explicitly siscon, and Yuhi treats siscon as weird before reading the novel and falling in love with it, so maybe Sakurako's rec is partly responsible for sending Yuhi down her current path?

And this isn't even to mention the necklace! It functions as a collar from MS Sakurako, Yuhi wears it all the time, makes strained expressions when she says she doesn't remember who gave it to her and says it's not important, and immediately freaks out when Sakurako keeps it, though she tries to play it cool. Rereading it, she totally acts needy and emotionally vulnerable towards current Sakurako despite saying 'no commitment'? But Mocchi just pushes her away...

This is just guessing, but "cries over romantic novels" makes me think that maybe Yuhi thinks of herself as unworthy of commitment, and that's why she prefers open relationships? I think someone who straight up dislikes commitment would hate the novel, and someone who thinks it's not for them wouldn't react so strongly.

All of this is to say that Amano isn't Kudou. I feel like the manga being from Sakurako's POV kind of makes it feel like the obvious upcoming plot will be "I'll end up tricking myself into caring too much even though it's all delusional, Amano doesn't care and never will and then burning myself," but I think this is a double trick, and what will actually happen is that Sakurako's inability to realise Yuhi actually does care and always has will burn Yuhi really badly. She treated Sakurako like a dog in middle school, even if she didn't realise it at the time... but I'm totally open to being wrong, I trust and love Kuwabara!

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