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Well, that was a fun couple of opposites. :D
wait, I just reread the latest chapter and the canon is that there is no man?? dream world fr.
Only one marriage? They could just join all for of them into single matrimony so no pair loses...
wait, I just reread the latest chapter and the canon is that there is no man?? dream world fr.
Yup, it's confirmed now.
Holy magic/Holy healing magic cannot be cast on yourself!??? As a saint...That sounds like a fatal power flaw lol 0_0....If I was a saint then I would have found about that really quick since I would want to test out my healing power by stabbing my hand before trying healing it in which case I would be panicking like a idiot then making sure to bring like dozen of healing potions just in case afterwards.
Good thing MC and the princess help made a lot of powerful healing potions. Though since there are 2 saint instead of just 1 saint, they can holy heal each other in battle I guess.
We know they have the option to return back to their world if they 'choose' (Assuming wizard girl was not lying about there being a return spell/method and not lying about needing to get rid of the evil miasma before allowed to.)
The 2nd princess (So-called cold Tsundere/Eldora)...Eh...I seen much harsher, rude and annoying princess...Yep she sure is bossy though but I get the feeling like she feel compelled to focus on becoming the heir due to 1st princess (Luliam) condition of exploding magic and not being able use magic. Doing it mainly due to her older sister' sake though...Eh debatable...I say doing it for her older sister's sake might be 15-20% the reason and feeling duty bond responsibility is the rest of it is my guess? Though I do wish Eldora/2nd princess learns about Consent or atleast the ability to 'RIZZ' her future waifu up better....Girl at least take her out for an fancy restaurant dinner first before marriage lol XD
Eldora was worried about Daichi/highschool girl when she was injury and almost passing out...So assuming Eldora/2nd princess concern was 'Real' then it possible Eldora might develop romantic feelings...Highschool girl was feeling a bit flustered about the concern shown though~
Both pairs of princess and saints are putting in lots of effort in saving people (High-school girl/Daichi got injury during battle) during the race for the throne.
One super special marriage fruit for princess and saintess/saint marriage per 5 years spawn rate???....Who is going to bet that there is going to be like 2 fruits that spawn instead of just 1 fruit lol? XD
I find it funny that Daichi/highschool girl was not protesting about marrying another girl anymore (I don't think she even protest the idea at all, just being feisty and angry about the saintess auto non-consent part of marrying the princess in chapter 1 until she heard about the 'REWARDS') and focusing more on how marriage should be decided between the 2 parties being married (love and consent focus lol)....Though like other people said...She is probably curious about how they reproduce in this isekai world of theirs....I wonder if there must be some intense hold-handing ritual involved huh?
also welcome to marriages before WW2 lol. The idea you married for love is an extremely modern phenomena
No, it's not, unless you mean among the upper classes, but even then, it's wildly before WW2. I think this is a pretty good reddit thread that goes over it, but marriage for love happened quite a lot in the Middle Ages, even if it wasn't the only consideration.
[WARNING: LONG USELESS PARAGRAPHS INCOMING, scroll down for short version]
Hmm...It depends mostly on the people involved and their economic status....Sure you get a few wild out liners/exceptions (Poor people marrying out of love or rich people making due to love...sometimes a very rare rich + poor people eloping and running away together) but if you were a noble your parents probably wanted you to marry to another family to build future alliances and connections for their business and boosting status. The low-tier or middle rank nobles probably had easier chance to marry out of love compared to the high-ranking nobles like Dukes or royalty....don't need to sorry about power struggle or assassins...
The middle to upper middle class people who don't have to worry about food and shelter (People with decent jobs in medieval times or people from well off merchant family ) have much more opportunity to search for the so-called romance and marriage out of love. The poor people can still marry for love I guess despite their low-economic status [Though there is still a possible 20% divorce rate after all]. Like it is said....there are millions of people and dozens of different countries plus different era of time/culture in human history, you probably want a graph showing like is there a 10% to 40% noticeable increase in marriage out of love, was the arranged marriage couple happy later on or were just unhappily or perhaps meh-tier...Like it is said, many types of groups of people and situation depending on time-period, country, economic status (+Some outliers and exception will always appear.).
Even in our so-called modern days (Lol...Civil society...*Resist urge to laugh*) lot of people do not marry out of love sadly and sometimes people are still forced to marry other people due to their parents choices (Parents building money connections, trying to marry their kids into wealth, etc.)...sad reality but no matter how much we try to act like we are much better and superior than the humanity like 100-200 years ago I still see humanity pretty much the same as the humans back then [Thankfully we have better technology and better lifespan though which is indeed a plus!]. I think this is mostly just the viewpoint that comes from people who come from well off families or people that live in 1st world countries instead of 3rd world countries. Hmm...If we managed to get into outer space (Space colonies), solve world hunger, creating a perfect law system, every child has access to basic education/job chances, managed to stop having so many wars/conflicts killings thousands (At least give us a 30-40 year peace period before a minor war start again please...) then I guess Humanity has finally reach to almost close to perfection/ perfect civilization where everyone can easily marry just for love instead of other reasons beyond their control. I hope humanity reach that day, we have the potential to...perhaps maybe 600-700 years into the future but to me eh humanity as a whole has a lot of people that are chaotic, wild and crazy (Despite many good people)...thankfully I live in a 1st world country so I probably should not be complaining too much I guess.
(TL;DR- condense version)-
-Sorry for the random stupid long useless input comments/words from me about humanity and marriage/love, I was bored and felt like sharing my thoughts on how people marry out of love depending on the time-period/era from before 100-200 years ago to modern day now.
Short version/story, it depends on the people involved, some people marry out of love while other marry or force to seek marry due to duty or other factors. Second princess is fked up and annoying yes...But I can see her intention and where she is coming from (Stupid noblesse oblige, duties and stuff+ Spoiled from being a noble princess)...Though would it kill her to at least learn to seduce and learn more about her future spouse/Waifu/marriage partner at least despite the forceful marriage she is trying to push on the highschool girl.
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"All of you are forgetting the most important part."
Ha, yes, consent.
"... the autore fruit."
Dang, almost had it.
LOL! This was my exact thought process in that scene.
What a lovely mother! ^_^
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/the_helpless_saint_and_the_powerless_princess_ch11#7
Politics! What fun!
Politics is always tough in these kind of fantasy stories. I find most of them just give a light hint at it and really, really fail to capitalize on it. Plus, there's enough plot without it so I'm not expecting much, but I did like that this feels like a natural way for our two cuties to confront their feelings for each other.
No! Bad mage! squirts with water
yomoyo always interrupted at the good bit. also sudden(ish) diplomacy. somehow i’ve gotten used to the yuri x politics pairing
Page 18 is adorable. That awkward moment when you suddenly realize that the hot and awesome person in front of you has never wanted anything more than to be your spouse.
somehow i’ve gotten used to the yuri x politics pairing
So have I. It's almost like politics of some kind are endemic to every facet of the human experience...
What the fuck is that dumbass even talking about? This isn't some gladiatorial crowning type shit where the "loser" fucking dies and all their possessions are conceded to the winner. Like, I understand the angle, we've seen that a million times in such stories, they're backing up the "wrong" party and must unhingedly go out of their way to make sure theirs is the one that comes out on top, but there was never established a "wrong" party in this story. She's utilitarian, but Eldora has been, at worst, rude or insensitive. I guess one could be worse for one and the other could be for another. Either case, sure, folks have died for less, but c'mon, dude. Those aren't the stakes.
As a bit of a side note, I wanted to mention this but I don't remember doing so (and checking post by post will be ass), but I like that Tsubasa's a good lass. I expected her to be the wretched spawn of satan, but as a pleasant surprise, she' far from that.
Well, looks like someone is about to thoroughly screw over their own side, I can't possibly see this going well for her...
I hope this sudden development is not a sign of the manga being on the chopping block. Yuri Hime has been pretty ruthless lately. They did say they are going to debut one series per issue for the next 12 months, so something has to make way. Odoriba and Garan Hime just ended and will be joined by Black Knight next month.
I hope this sudden development is not a sign of the manga being on the chopping block.
Well, the way I see it, they kinda introduced a second sort-of-villain while we still don't know the identity of the mysterious first one :P There's more new threads opening up than there are closing, doesn't seem like a sign of the series ending.
… and will be joined by Black Knight next month.
surely you capping D: it has been a while since sometime has a serialization and iirc it just got english localization too
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Finally we get to see more of her sister.
… and will be joined by Black Knight next month.
surely you capping D: it has been a while since sometime has a serialization and iirc it just got english localization too
The preview for next issue lists the series as [Complete], so yeah, it's ending. And being licensed doesn't necessarily mean a series is doing well in Japan. Sometime it's just a matter of cheap license fee, or being part of a bundle. English publishers have picked up several axed manga across genres so it's not a surprise.
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I hope this sudden development is not a sign of the manga being on the chopping block.
Well, the way I see it, they kinda introduced a second sort-of-villain while we still don't know the identity of the mysterious first one :P There's more new threads opening up than there are closing, doesn't seem like a sign of the series ending.
It was one of the few GLs to make it into the Next Manga award nomination list and the mangaka has been campaigning. It seems doubtful it was part of any cuts.