Matsuri? Matsuri. Manipulative and toxic and out of everyone in the cast, you're thinking of Matrusi...?

Matsuri? Matsuri. Manipulative and toxic and out of everyone in the cast, you're thinking of Matrusi...?

Yes, because no one in this story is being honest about their feelings and desires, and I'm certain she's no exception.

Is green tea have any sort of symbolic meaning in Japan? Similar to how it got used to describe two-faced people in China during the 2010s.

I wouldn't expect any symbolic meaning, but I wouldn't expect what you said about China, so I dunno. But in my limited knowledge, I would think green tea in Japan is like black tea in England, too much of a default drink to mean anything by itself.

Matsuri rubs me the wrong way. Has from the start. The cute, supportive things she says are always undermined by art and typesetting (if you can call it that), turning what would normally be seen as a supportive, uplifting character into a manipulative one.

I think she'll be a highly toxic influence.

nah you tweakin

Matsuri must have seen the Chechov's hickeys right? I guess she just played it off like she didn't?

lol yeah, I forgot about that

Matsuri? Matsuri. Manipulative and toxic and out of everyone in the cast, you're thinking of Matrusi...?

Yes, because no one in this story is being honest about their feelings and desires, and I'm certain she's no exception.

At this point, every character in the cast seems devoid of realistic emotions or common sense, relying on manipulation to get what they want and maintain their two-faced façades. except for Wakaba (well kind of).

If Matsuri really turns out to be evil I'd be all for it, it's gonna be fun

I have concluded that i dont want Komaki to be end game. Komakis sorry should end with her getting her shit together... And nothing futher

Matsuri rubs me the wrong way. Has from the start. The cute, supportive things she says are always undermined by art and typesetting (if you can call it that), turning what would normally be seen as a supportive, uplifting character into a manipulative one.

I think she'll be a highly toxic influence.

nah you tweakin

It would fit, the main reason to reject the idea is that it leaves Wakaba with nothing

It's not too late, Matsuri! You can just kiss Wakaba in front of Komaki, don't give up!

Matsuri rubs me the wrong way. Has from the start. The cute, supportive things she says are always undermined by art and typesetting (if you can call it that), turning what would normally be seen as a supportive, uplifting character into a manipulative one.

I think she'll be a highly toxic influence.

nah you tweakin

It would fit, the main reason to reject the idea is that it leaves Wakaba with nothing

No, Wakaba has Komaki. Komaki's troubled and therefore trouble in and of herself. Komaki can't conceive of a world where Wakaba and her could be together, so she's trying to push her away as hard as possible to make Wakaba cut ties with her, because Komaki can't bring herself to do it. Well, Wakaba is naturally awakening to her own feelings for Komaki and things will go the way things go in manga. Matsuri is not a guardian angel.

Anyway, if you really have to know, you can always read ahead in the light novel I guess, but I'll stick to what I can glean from the manga alone.

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Matsuri rubs me the wrong way. Has from the start. The cute, supportive things she says are always undermined by art and typesetting (if you can call it that), turning what would normally be seen as a supportive, uplifting character into a manipulative one.

I think she'll be a highly toxic influence.

nah you tweakin

It would fit, the main reason to reject the idea is that it leaves Wakaba with nothing

No, Wakaba has Komaki. Komaki's troubled and therefore trouble in and of herself. Komaki can't conceive of a world where Wakaba and her could be together, so she's trying to push her away as hard as possible to make Wakaba cut ties with her, because Komaki can't bring herself to do it. Well, Wakaba is naturally awakening to her own feelings for Komaki and things will go the way things go in manga. Matsuri is not a guardian angel.

Komaki is a burden at best and a bully at medium. Wakaba is rather justified in complaining about how unlucky she feels her life is. The story is pretty far from giving any reason Wakaba should want to be with Komaki beyond suspension bridge effect

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Matsuri rubs me the wrong way. Has from the start. The cute, supportive things she says are always undermined by art and typesetting (if you can call it that), turning what would normally be seen as a supportive, uplifting character into a manipulative one.

I think she'll be a highly toxic influence.

nah you tweakin

It would fit, the main reason to reject the idea is that it leaves Wakaba with nothing

No, Wakaba has Komaki. Komaki's troubled and therefore trouble in and of herself. Komaki can't conceive of a world where Wakaba and her could be together, so she's trying to push her away as hard as possible to make Wakaba cut ties with her, because Komaki can't bring herself to do it. Well, Wakaba is naturally awakening to her own feelings for Komaki and things will go the way things go in manga. Matsuri is not a guardian angel.

Komaki is a burden at best and a bully at medium. Wakaba is rather justified in complaining about how unlucky she feels her life is. The story is pretty far from giving any reason Wakaba should want to be with Komaki beyond suspension bridge effect

That might be the case (debatable) but Wakaba is interested in and falling for (or already has fallen for) Komaki. So, she wouldn't be left with nothing.

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Wakaba's like "I can fix her!"
Just hasn't fully realized it.

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Matsuri hasn't done anything really inappropriate and has in fact been very direct about what she wants. However, some of her ways of speaking seem fake / deliberate, like all her pointed questions about Komaki or at times seem to be low key guilting Wakaba into doing something.

It does seem like her character is basically the fluffy shoujoish romance character. Someone earlier in the thread asked if the green tea latte (I assume what we'd call matcha latte) had a symbolic meaning. If it does, I think the meaning is "something completely ordinary (green tea), but extra sweet." That's her presentation, but it remains to be seen how sincere she is.

Being socially calculating doesn't make you evil, but you can't blame people for suspecting when the main pairing was decided on the cover of chapter 1. Clearly Matsuri is an antagonist role of some type, but she could also be a soft antagonist who has their best interests at heart. That would give her reason to be direct about figuring out exactly what is going on between Komaki and Wakaba.

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