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joined Jan 22, 2015

One party has clearly identified their feels as those of love. Therefore this doujin is more "yuri" than the majority of content on this site.

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joined Apr 30, 2020

There needs to be more male characters like Otaku in yuri. Too often they only exist to create drama but not Otaku for he is a wingman who wants to see yuri bloom.

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joined May 4, 2013

Nah I'll gladly take 404: men not found over this.

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Amimaidprofile
joined Mar 5, 2019

who the hell would use a still from PLANETES for the final credits page?!?!?!?!?

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joined Sep 14, 2014

perfection

whitenight2013
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joined Mar 10, 2018

It's always nice when a yuri can have a man in it, have him be a friend in it or something, and not use him as an excuse for drama.

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joined Dec 21, 2016

who the hell would use a still from PLANETES for the final credits page?!?!?!?!?

Me, Yuri.

Itshappening
joined Feb 13, 2013

There needs to be more male characters like Otaku in yuri. Too often they only exist to create drama but not Otaku for he is a wingman who wants to see yuri bloom.

Not all heroes wear capes

joined Jun 8, 2020

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joined Apr 29, 2020

guy wingmen are fine in yuri but this guy comes off as kinda creepy.

Capy%20white
joined Mar 21, 2019

It's always nice when a yuri can have a man in it, have him be a friend in it or something, and not use him as an excuse for drama.

Yuri needs more guys like Mophead from Tamen De Gushi. Friggin love that guy.

Sachifaceagain%20(2)
joined Jun 29, 2020

I think So, Do You Want to Go Out, Or? handles its male characters pretty well, for the most part. Anyway, this reminded me of that one chapter of Pop Team Epic where gyaru who are mean to otaku are being killed.

joined May 8, 2018

I swear, if it was me, I would be the same as the otaku. I love yuri more than anything else. I don't even care about my own love life. If yuri exist, I would be glad to support it 1000%.

Also, I like having a male friend in a yuri manga. The story feels more fresh. I wish there are more yuri manga with a male friend. I have ideas for a few, but I'm not very good with drawing my own manga. If only I can draw.

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joined Mar 7, 2021

It's nice to see some male friends in yuri mangas in a while, but.. it's only nice when it's an actual friend like the one from tamen di gushi, not this kind of disgusting and creepy man. I'm tired of yuri manga being consumed mostly by men and not sapphic women, it just shows how much men see us as objects for their fun. To the men in the replies: Sincerely, as a lesbian, I'm really tired of of you fetishizing us. Please rethink about what you're doing because it's gross, for god's sake!

DatYuriAddict
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joined Feb 21, 2018

It's nice to see some male friends in yuri mangas in a while, but.. it's only nice when it's an actual friend like the one from tamen di gushi, not this kind of disgusting and creepy man. I'm tired of yuri manga being consumed mostly by men and not sapphic women, it just shows how much men see us as objects for their fun. To the men in the replies: Sincerely, as a lesbian, I'm really tired of of you fetishizing us. Please rethink about what you're doing because it's gross, for god's sake!

I agree with you 100% or a friend like Cerik from Mage and Demon Queen is good. He’s there to be best friends with Mals. And I live for that! And I appreciate the men who enjoys Yuri for its plot and story line and not because 2 girls are kissing each other. Of course you can say it’s cute, but when the only reason you read Yuri is so you can see 2 girls do the lewd or to see a guy in the story be creepy about liking Yuri. Just rubs me the wrong way.

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Jamal_Williams69
joined May 13, 2018

It's nice to see some male friends in yuri mangas in a while, but.. it's only nice when it's an actual friend like the one from tamen di gushi, not this kind of disgusting and creepy man. I'm tired of yuri manga being consumed mostly by men and not sapphic women, it just shows how much men see us as objects for their fun. To the men in the replies: Sincerely, as a lesbian, I'm really tired of of you fetishizing us. Please rethink about what you're doing because it's gross, for god's sake!

Wait, I'm not allowed to like yuri because I'm a man?

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joined Jan 4, 2021

It's nice to see some male friends in yuri mangas in a while, but.. it's only nice when it's an actual friend like the one from tamen di gushi, not this kind of disgusting and creepy man. I'm tired of yuri manga being consumed mostly by men and not sapphic women, it just shows how much men see us as objects for their fun. To the men in the replies: Sincerely, as a lesbian, I'm really tired of of you fetishizing us. Please rethink about what you're doing because it's gross, for god's sake!

Wait, I'm not allowed to like yuri because I'm a man?

As long as you're not fetishizing lesbians, I don't really see a problem if you're a guy, though that's my personal opinion

joined Mar 6, 2020

Go in peace brother Otaku

Y5
joined Jul 23, 2020

qi fang from tamen de gushi still my best wingman

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joined Mar 7, 2021

holy shit it's me

joined Jun 19, 2018

Otaku here obviously only supports them cause he thinks yuri is hot

I think he's just supposed to find it cute? I'm not great with sussing out sexual writing though. He definitely rubs me the wrong way, but that's more because I find his enjoyment ingenuine (like he's forcing it) than anything else.

I'm tired of yuri manga being consumed mostly by men and not sapphic women

Isn't it like 50/50?

Sincerely, as a lesbian, I'm really tired of of you fetishizing us.

You could call it fetishization, but I don't think the worst aspects of guys being obnoxious about lesbians comes from sexualization. The obnoxiousness is more like meme-ification. People (I'd guess it's mostly guys, but I doubt it's them entirely) enjoy gushing about things that they like, but are unable or too lazy to communicate what they really like about it, so they pick one aspect of yuri (lesbianism) and gush about it. There's a disgusting feeling when people praise lesbianism since it feels and is forced. It's 'fetishistic' in the sense that it is mistaking a relatively unimportant aspect (imo) for what's actually important (romance, good story telling, even more 'low culture' wants like cuteness or even arousal itself). Gushing also tends towards simplicity since it's easier to get people to go along with it if it's simple (and simple things tend to be more encompassing), which makes the problem worse.

Wait, I'm not allowed to like yuri because I'm a man?

Please don't take someone's argument/position in the worst possible light that you can. I'd guess she doesn't really have such a strong position, but by making the conversation more adversarial she's likely to make a caricature of her own position, or at least make the conversation more aggressive and angry going foreword.
Bakatare also shouldn't have posted in the bitter, and at best unclear way she did. But it's still not clear that she was actually meaning to imply that men shouldn't read or comment on yuri.

joined Jul 8, 2019

There needs to be more male characters like Otaku in yuri. Too often they only exist to create drama but not Otaku for he is a wingman who wants to see yuri bloom.

Have you read Trans*Star? Here you have a full clasroom full of such wingmen.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/trans_star#10

New
joined Aug 4, 2016

It's nice to see some male friends in yuri mangas in a while, but.. it's only nice when it's an actual friend like the one from tamen di gushi, not this kind of disgusting and creepy man. I'm tired of yuri manga being consumed mostly by men and not sapphic women, it just shows how much men see us as objects for their fun. To the men in the replies: Sincerely, as a lesbian, I'm really tired of of you fetishizing us. Please rethink about what you're doing because it's gross, for god's sake!

I don't know why you felt the need to go this far over this innocent 4-page doujin, but I'll address it anyway.

At least for non-pornographic yuri, yuri historically has not been consumed by mostly men. A common misconception, but false nonetheless. Also, it's a plain fact that yuri manga is mostly written by women, and it's the creators who...well, create the content, not the consumers*.

Also, what was disgusting and creepy about this guy? He's just enjoying a mobile game with a friend, then someone else comes and tells him to back off because she likes that girl, and when he realizes that he just thinks it's cute. What, is he not allowed to be happy that a gyaru treats him like a peer and a human being? Is he supposed to be against a girl liking another girl? He's clearly a bit awkward, but since when is that a crime?

In closing: yes, fetishization of lesbians is a problem that exists. But at least direct your anger where it's actually worth having it.

*An inb4: There's an argument to be made that consumer demand will drive what content is created, and thus if sexy yuri is what sells it will be what is created, but there are issues with that here: 1, if that were the case, you'd likely be seeing more men drawing yuri manga than we have. 2, yuri isn't exactly such a thriving market that artists need to do this kind of thing in order to eat; they draw yuri because they want to.

The immaculate
joined Mar 19, 2020

There needs to be more male characters like Otaku in yuri. Too often they only exist to create drama but not Otaku for he is a wingman who wants to see yuri bloom.

Have you read Trans*Star? Here you have a full clasroom full of such wingmen.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/trans_star#10

Oh that was nice to read and I never would have come across it on my own, so thank you.

UranusAndNeptuneAreJustCousins
joined Sep 6, 2015

I'm tired of yuri manga being consumed mostly by men and not sapphic women

Isn't it like 50/50?

It is. There was actually a Dynasty-specific survey conducted.

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