Also wait EVERYONE JUST KNOWS the class rep got the girl to come to class?!

What but

But

But YOU'RE KEEPING THAT SECRET THAT IS THE WHOLE PREMISE

The secret is that she's getting something out of it, not that she got her to come to school.

But why wouldn't she get something out of it? She's going above-and-beyond, that is exactly the kind of thing teachers write recs for qasasasdokljhasdkjfsdkljbdfa

people im starting to get the sense the premise for this manga was not actually very well thought-out

But why wouldn't she get something out of it? She's going above-and-beyond, that is exactly the kind of thing teachers write recs for qasasasdokljhasdkjfsdkljbdfa

people im starting to get the sense the premise for this manga was not actually very well thought-out

You know I already explained this back in chapter freaking one right? I'll just sum it up one more time, just for you:
1. Getting skipping students to school is the adults' job. This teacher was specifically tasked with doing that.
2. Making a student do the job of the teacher is not acceptable in this scenario. It makes the teacher look incompetent and like she pushes work on her students. Everything has a hierarchy in Japan.
3. Therefore the teacher makes this a secret deal. The compensation itself makes this a corrupt deal, because giving a student advantages for doing teacher's jobs is even worse (it's no better than bribery). This kind of deal reflects badly on both of them, but if this came out the teacher would spin the entire thing into her own favor and put the blame on Ayaka. "She blackmailed me by asking for a recommendation if she brought this problem student to school or she would tell everyone that I failed". That way it could even look like Ayaka and Honda are working together to gain credit.
4. This is why if anyone found out about it Ayaka would get the consequences of this deal, so she is trying to keep Honda silent by appeasing her.

I'll say it again, this kind of bullshit could only happen in a super uptight society like Japan, where the public image and hierarchy are more important than who is right. Adults can be absolute scum that will try anything to get bullied students expunged so they won't stain their track record for example. This is the society that forces naturally chestnut haired students to dye their hair black. You really need to understand what you're dealing with here.

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1. Getting skipping students to school is the adults' job. This teacher was specifically tasked with doing that.

Granting that this is the case in this story, it seems to be an incredibly common trope in manga and anime for the class president to be tasked with or to voluntarily undertake rounding up truant students. (I'm kind of crap at remembering untranslated titles, so my only examples would be, "the one where the class prez went to the person's house, and the other one, and the one with the tall truant guy," etc.). But it's not rare in fiction, anyway.

Maybe there's a difference between checking on people who just haven't shown up for a while, and long-term hardcore truancy?

last edited at Dec 18, 2019 2:32PM

1. Getting skipping students to school is the adults' job. This teacher was specifically tasked with doing that.

Granting that this is the case in this story, it seems to be an incredibly common trope in manga and anime for the class president to be tasked with or to voluntarily undertake rounding up truant students. (I'm kind of crap at remembering untranslated titles, so my only examples would be, "the one where the class prez went to the person's house, and the other one, and the one with the tall truant guy," etc.). But it's not rare in fiction, anyway.

Maybe there's a difference between checking on people who just haven't shown up for a while, and long-term hardcore truancy?

We could chalk that up to artistic liberty (after all any author can decide when they want to force some realism into their work and when not). Ultimately it is very common for students to do faculty work (especially the student council), but the point is more that it's not official most of the time and when it is, they get the credit that is assigned to their duties. While the student council can do some adminstrative work, actual guidance and mentorship are the teacher's "privilege".

And sure, I can see that if it's just checking on a classmate it's not a big deal, but if it's a straight up delinquent that needs to be straightened out they might treat it differently.

I was just trying to convey how messed up the school climate in Japan can be. In fiction anything goes.

last edited at Dec 18, 2019 2:39PM

1. Getting skipping students to school is the adults' job. This teacher was specifically tasked with doing that.

Granting that this is the case in this story, it seems to be an incredibly common trope in manga and anime for the class president to be tasked with or to voluntarily undertake rounding up truant students. (I'm kind of crap at remembering untranslated titles, so my only examples would be, "the one where the class prez went to the person's house, and the other one, and the one with the tall truant guy," etc.). But it's not rare in fiction, anyway.

Maybe there's a difference between checking on people who just haven't shown up for a while, and long-term hardcore truancy?

We could chalk that up to artistic liberty (after all any author can decide when they want to force some realism into their work and when not). Ultimately it is very common for students to do faculty work (especially the studnet council), but the point is more that it's not official most of the time and when it is, they get the credit that is assigned to their duties. While the student council can do some adminstrative work, actual guidance and mentorship are the teacher's "privilege".

And sure, I can see that if it's just checking on a classmate it's not a big deal, but if it's a straight up delinquent that needs to be straightened out they might treat it differently.

I was just trying to convey how messed up the school climate in Japan can be. In fiction anything goes.

I guess I was just getting at the difference between the examples I was thinking of, where checking up on missing classmates wasn't treated as anything unusual, and the several others where it was made explicit that the teacher was being out of line in asking a student to do their work.

Glad I didn't go to school in Japan--the Catholic-school nuns were bad enough.

Glad I didn't go to school in Japan--the Catholic-school nuns were bad enough.

I bet you're extra glad you didn't go to the legendary Catholic schools in Japan then that appear so much in Yuri manga. Where fun is outlawed and purity is directly distilled from girls' tears.

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is that "i love chicks" just a coincidence in translation? or is it in Japanese as well?

also yuriwave, i hope so!! i cant get enough of D/s content. its mostly porn, but i like the cute lovey stuff.

is yuriwave like boriswave?

because I could use a vaporwave yuri track. tie-straightening and oneesamas and student councils everywhere

I think Sakurai wanted to hand holds with Honda-san

But why wouldn't she get something out of it? She's going above-and-beyond, that is exactly the kind of thing teachers write recs for qasasasdokljhasdkjfsdkljbdfa

people im starting to get the sense the premise for this manga was not actually very well thought-out

You know I already explained this back in chapter freaking one right? I'll just sum it up one more time, just for you:
1. Getting skipping students to school is the adults' job. This teacher was specifically tasked with doing that.
2. Making a student do the job of the teacher is not acceptable in this scenario. It makes the teacher look incompetent and like she pushes work on her students. Everything has a hierarchy in Japan.
3. Therefore the teacher makes this a secret deal. The compensation itself makes this a corrupt deal, because giving a student advantages for doing teacher's jobs is even worse (it's no better than bribery). This kind of deal reflects badly on both of them, but if this came out the teacher would spin the entire thing into her own favor and put the blame on Ayaka. "She blackmailed me by asking for a recommendation if she brought this problem student to school or she would tell everyone that I failed". That way it could even look like Ayaka and Honda are working together to gain credit.
4. This is why if anyone found out about it Ayaka would get the consequences of this deal, so she is trying to keep Honda silent by appeasing her.

I'll say it again, this kind of bullshit could only happen in a super uptight society like Japan, where the public image and hierarchy are more important than who is right. Adults can be absolute scum that will try anything to get bullied students expunged so they won't stain their track record for example. This is the society that forces naturally chestnut haired students to dye their hair black. You really need to understand what you're dealing with here.

But if getting the kid to come to school was the teacher's job, that cat is already out of the bag! All the main character's friends already know, and they don't seem to think it's very scandalous at all.

But if getting the kid to come to school was the teacher's job, that cat is already out of the bag! All the main character's friends already know, and they don't seem to think it's very scandalous at all.

Except the students wouldnt know that it was part of a deal? I think you are just trying not to understand it at this point.
If Ayaka just happened to somehow convince Honda to come to school, then that was a coincidence and out of the teacher's power. If Ayaka did it specifically because the teacher told her to for a price, you should see the difference.
This isn't rocket science.

Prez is gettin' the feels huh. Go tease her more, Honda-san.

I just LOVE honda! ^_^

I feel like you people might be overanalyzing this a little.

Welcome to Dynasty

But if getting the kid to come to school was the teacher's job, that cat is already out of the bag! All the main character's friends already know, and they don't seem to think it's very scandalous at all.

Except the students wouldnt know that it was part of a deal? I think you are just trying not to understand it at this point.
If Ayaka just happened to somehow convince Honda to come to school, then that was a coincidence and out of the teacher's power. If Ayaka did it specifically because the teacher told her to for a price, you should see the difference.
This isn't rocket science.

You yourself said, a few messages ago, that it's common for students to do work for teachers, including being asked to go to other students' houses. If the issue is that the teacher was overt and explicit about offering payment, then why didn't she just not do that?

If the plot depends on one of the characters unnecessarily causing everyone trouble because she's a kooky weirdo, that should be mentioned (and also that character should actually be FUNNY).

You yourself said, a few messages ago, that it's common for students to do work for teachers, including being asked to go to other students' houses. If the issue is that the teacher was overt and explicit about offering payment, then why didn't she just not do that?

If the plot depends on one of the characters unnecessarily causing everyone trouble because she's a kooky weirdo, that should be mentioned (and also that character should actually be FUNNY).

That... is not what I said. At all. Blastaar was the one who said that in many stories this happens and I just said I can see how it would not be a big deal if a student did it.

I honestly don't know what to say at this point. The teacher made a pretty safe deal that got some trouble off her back. Her risk is minimal. Honestly, so would have been Aayaka's if she didn't somehow manage to get followed and overheard by Honda. It's more of a convenient incident than anything kooky.

last edited at Dec 19, 2019 2:04PM

This is the society that forces naturally chestnut haired students to dye their hair black. You really need to understand what you're dealing with here.

I wrote a seminar paper on how Japan has a conformist society and even referenced aspects of the education system, such as this, to make my point.

My fellow American classmates somehow thought their experiences in school were the same and that my paper therefore had a weak arguement. There is just no helping the ignorant.

I think Sakurai wanted to hand holds with Honda-san

I laughed xD how lewd

absolutely adorable

Full-on embracing each other whilst clothed in bed is nice. Though it just shows how lonely Honda-san really is.

very cute chapter and snuggles.

nice redraws on the sfx too. page 16 looks especially nice.

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Sudden thunderstorm is always the best kind of wingman.
The teacher definitely has an agenda... and a penchant for tactical espionage action.
Just embracing someone to fall asleep, such a simple but deeply comforting thing. Honda continues to make requests that I expect and that reflect the title.

Ayaka's mom and dad are, well, just as irresponsible as she said haha

yalls be writing 30 paragraphs jesus fuck LOL last panel was adorable tho <3

,,,This is so tender... I love it. Also falling asleep holding someone is A+, would recommend, she's got the right idea.

Ah yes, another appearance of the "you will definitely get sick from walking in the rain" syndrome that all manga/anime characters seem to share. Well at least it was not just that but also--

Sudden thunderstorm is always the best kind of wingman.

Yeah, exactly.