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Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

I mean SS is actually a ship prefix too...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_prefix

And damn if there aren't thousands of things abbreviated with SS. It's not "ignorant" to use SS for anything. Unless Nazi themes are actually present, there is nothing wrong with it and it's a bit weird that so many people jumped on that.

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Meiling%20bun%20150px
joined Jun 28, 2012

I mean SS is actually a ship prefix too...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_prefix

And damn if there aren't thousands of things abbreviated with SS. It's not "ignorant" to use SS for anything. Unless Nazi themes are actually present, there is nothing wrong with it and it's a bit weird that so many people jumped on that.

I'm pretty sure the producers of Sailor Moon Super S would be surprised to hear about those sort of connections.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

I mean SS is actually a ship prefix too...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ship_prefix

And damn if there aren't thousands of things abbreviated with SS. It's not "ignorant" to use SS for anything. Unless Nazi themes are actually present, there is nothing wrong with it and it's a bit weird that so many people jumped on that.

Well, yes and no:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Girls

SS Girls (Italian: Casa privata per le SS) is an Italian Nazi exploitation film by director Bruno Mattei. The film is about a brothel where traitors of the Nazi high command are eradicated. To help the brothel out, a Nazi commander, involved in intelligence work, enlists the aid of scientists who train various prostitutes to sexually satisfy the desires of the Nazi high command and root out any traitors.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Well, yes and no:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Girls

SS Girls (Italian: Casa privata per le SS) is an Italian Nazi exploitation film by director Bruno Mattei. The film is about a brothel where traitors of the Nazi high command are eradicated. To help the brothel out, a Nazi commander, involved in intelligence work, enlists the aid of scientists who train various prostitutes to sexually satisfy the desires of the Nazi high command and root out any traitors.

Of course! It is all so clear now! These Japanese High School Girls (TM) were just really huge fans of super niche 70s Nazisploitation porn movies. Either that or they really love watching Cinema Snob reviews.

I take it aaaaaall back. Such an obvious reference. I wouldn't even be surprised if they put Swastika stickers on their schoolbags now.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

For God’s sake, BugDevil, no one has been claiming that Nazism was actually the intended reference. Readers just noted their own first reactions (since we were given no context for what “SS” might actually stand for). People were just goofing on it after that.

In the context of the story, that business about ship names is no more, or less, likely than a WW2 Nazi reference.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

For God’s sake, BugDevil, no one has been claiming that Nazism was actually the intended reference. Readers just noted their own first reactions (since we were given no context for what “SS” might actually stand for). People were just goofing on it after that.

In the context of the story, that business about ship names is no more, or less, likely than a WW2 Nazi reference.

For the flying spaghetti monster's sake, Blastaar, did that post sound like it was serious? Just how bad is my humor that even that can be taken straight?

Yeah no, I wasn't saying they were actual marine travel afficianados either... just pointing to a certain Divine Jogger's "ignorant" line and saying SS is a common abbreviation.

last edited at Jun 12, 2019 9:10AM

Capturedsfdsss_x213
joined Mar 16, 2018

Just so everyone remembers,
I jumped on it first!

Also, the second chapter is out and is just as adorable

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joined Jul 29, 2017

For God’s sake, BugDevil, no one has been claiming that Nazism was actually the intended reference. Readers just noted their own first reactions (since we were given no context for what “SS” might actually stand for). People were just goofing on it after that.

In the context of the story, that business about ship names is no more, or less, likely than a WW2 Nazi reference.

For the flying spaghetti monster's sake, Blastaar, did that post sound like it was serious? Just how bad is my humor that even that can be taken straight?

Yeah no, I wasn't saying they were actual marine travel afficianados either... just pointing to a certain Divine Jogger's "ignorant" line and saying SS is a common abbreviation.

We need to misunderstand each other fairly regularly, it seems. Sorry.

But as my KPop band link suggests (along with that image that was posted, and Girls und Panzer, etc)., the pop cultures of the Pacific Rim do get up to some weird and sometimes clueless shit in regard to WW2 and fascist imagery.

(I mean, as a word in itself “Gestapo!” would make a pretty cool band name.)

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

We need to misunderstand each other fairly regularly, it seems. Sorry.

But as my KPop band link suggests (along with that image that was posted, and Girls und Panzer, etc)., the pop cultures of the Pacific Rim do get up to some weird and sometimes clueless shit in regard to WW2 and fascist imagery.

(I mean, as a word in itself “Gestapo!” would make a pretty cool band name.)

Misunderstandings are in the nature of communication through text I fear.

Yeah, I'm not denying that pop culture these days has a very skewed view on WW2, especially in countries who did not participate. And Japan in particular was always very friendly towards their former German allies. It's hard to find such universally dislikable, yet convenient villains as the Nazis (America loves them in video-games). Nazisploitation may never end... I mean they were really snazzy dressers.

Maybe people wouldn't like it as much if they had to say Geheime Staatspolizei. Kind of a mouthful.


Ahem, anyway, Yori isn't even an actual part of the SS Girls, so let's not think about that too much. I wonder if she seriously carries that guitar to school every day... where does she even put it during classes?

last edited at Jun 12, 2019 10:18AM

Stardusttelepath8
joined Oct 15, 2014

Of course I might've just misinterpreted it and it's actually just spelled Ssgirls.

last edited at Jun 12, 2019 10:39AM

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Nazisploitation may never end... I mean they were really snazzy dressers.

And not so many real-life villains have the self-awareness and candor to adopt the death's-head as their emblem. None of this pretending "we're really the good guys" shit . . .

F6c7d5d1-1d08-49c3-974d-d6169caf13f6
joined May 8, 2017

Mfw when I start a new yuri manga and see a Nazi reference

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F4x-3lwx0aa0tcu31
joined Apr 20, 2013

I came for the music theme and cute drawing.... I stay because of the cute drawing and supportive friends :') that was a nice touch, not keeping it secret or risking a love triangle with band members (well, is not completely out of the picture but at this point, I don't think we should worry about it)... And just knowing that all the band members are cool is enough.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

Maa-chan: Daga kotowaru!

There goes my side-pairing.

Mask
joined Jan 6, 2015

Oh damn I love her friends!

Img_0215
joined Jul 29, 2017

Two different flavors of idiot, and a support squad of shippers on deck.

I’m totally in.

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

If they were called the Yasukunigirls, it would be a lot more controversial.

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

For the flying spaghetti monster's sake, Blastaar, did that post sound like it was serious? Just how bad is my humor that even that can be taken straight?

Yeah no, I wasn't saying they were actual marine travel afficianados either... just pointing to a certain Divine Jogger's "ignorant" line and saying SS is a common abbreviation.

If you're going to use quotes, at least use a word I actually said. I didn't call anyone ignorant, I said "oblivious". Y'know, unaware or unconcerned? Since several people seemed to not realize what Ranzo was talking about, I think it's an apt description.

HazmatChiefAlsimi
joined Feb 9, 2019

Ooo. We get to see the others mc view. I like that sort of stuff.

Eivhbyw
joined Aug 26, 2018

If you're going to use quotes, at least use a word I actually said. I didn't call anyone ignorant, I said "oblivious". Y'know, unaware or unconcerned? Since several people seemed to not realize what Ranzo was talking about, I think it's an apt description.

Because ignorant doesn't mean "unaware"? Now that's just pedantic.
You called the author oblivious as well though. So my point stands.

joined Jun 7, 2019

If they were called the Yasukunigirls, it would be a lot more controversial.

Amen to that!
The yellow, brown or black peoples in the world don't have any reason to give a shit about the crimes of white Europeans killing white Europeans. The controversies surrounding Yasukuni Shrine, otoh, now that is something that does concern them.

_20180228_203946
joined Jan 24, 2018

Lol all the above comments about Nazis... All I can think of when I see SS is super saiyan but what evs.
I always get a bit worried when second ep is pretty much first ep (Fate/stay night really erked me when they did it eheheh) but I needed Yoris point of view anyway so I'm happy they wentbout the second chapter that way! Chapter 2 was quickly released so I hope thext few are the same

F4x-3lwx0aa0tcu31
joined Apr 20, 2013

When I think of SS I remember those shota fanart implications memes ... That I never knew why they call it SS too but well, we can all agree that it was a bad name outside Japan lo/

White%20rose%20index
joined Aug 16, 2018

Chapter 2 was quickly released so I hope thext few are the same

Just yesterday, I read the first 4 chapters in Spanish. v(^.^)v I reckon the English versions will be here very soon.

And, really, Himari is dense.

Tron-legacy
joined Dec 11, 2017

If you're going to use quotes, at least use a word I actually said. I didn't call anyone ignorant, I said "oblivious". Y'know, unaware or unconcerned? Since several people seemed to not realize what Ranzo was talking about, I think it's an apt description.

Because ignorant doesn't mean "unaware"? Now that's just pedantic.
You called the author oblivious as well though. So my point stands.

The word ignorant has meanings that confer a lack of education or intelligence, while oblivious is more neutral. Ignorant is more often used as an insult. I choose my words very deliberately, and when you quote someone you are supposed to use their own words.

And if your point stands, then I'm not understanding what your point is. If the author did not consider the Nazi association of the acronym, which I doubt they did, they are, by definition, oblivious to the implications. That doesn't mean they're "ignorant" of Nazi history or why Nazis are bad, or anything like that, it just means they weren't paying any attention to the possible association. They clearly didn't mean it as a Nazi reference, it's just a little unfortunate that they chose a name that has that association.

Why are we arguing about this?

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