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Mostly%20sunny
joined Oct 26, 2016

And boom goes the dynamite.

1478_nogirlsallowed
joined Oct 26, 2018

you did it you crazy sunovabitch

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joined Jul 30, 2015

HaruMatsu! Finally!

This
joined Jan 17, 2017

SHE IS CHILL WITH THAT

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joined Apr 20, 2020

THEY KISSED OML

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joined Mar 23, 2015

Am I the only one finding the dialogue in this chapter rather odd?

No, you're not the only one; I did too. I had to reread a few panels.

Minami
joined Jun 25, 2019

And let's be honest there should be more official couples than just the main pair in the series.

No. Is there even a need for that ? Idk, bring back the other side couple from just before if you want another pair.I never liked the trope that all character should have a pair/is a lesbian, like i don't care that's a yuri, doesn't mean every girl has to be in couple with another girl. Not helping for me that it's Harumin of all peoples, Miss" I didn't do anything useful during the main serie beside being here" (yeah in case anyone didn't know in this thread, i don'treally like Harumin). Not helping either that the pairing feel foirced by default because Matsuri know she can't have Yuzu so she decide to poke at Harumin. I don't find any strong chemistry, at least not romantically.
Might be a killjoy (surprising i know) but i'm not very hype at all and the lack of reaction of Harumin doesn't help. Just feel like Saburouta give Harumatsu fan some materials so they stop asking for it.

Roar%20small
joined Dec 18, 2013

There's a bunch of interesting bits of info that can be gleaned from the art.

As some have already mentioned, Sabu is pushing hard the notion of Matsuri and Harumin being foils of each other from the way she keeps drawing them in mirrored panels, like on page 12, a subtle way to let us know that they're more alike than they think. Another bit that caught my attention was how Matsuri's intent taking Harumin to her room was to probe if Harumin was there of her own volition (and thus, finally showing she cares about her) or if she was doing it to keep the facade of a model student. Initially, Harumin implied it was something she did for obligation leading to the very disappointed Matsuri of page 2. I'm convinced that Matsuri would've tried to pull a Mei and essentially assault Harumin to break her composure but the untimely arrival of her mom put an end to that plan. And finally, their discussion at the end led to both of them blushing at the other words before the big damn kiss. I don't think neither of them has blushed like that in the past.

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joined Nov 21, 2014

Might be a killjoy (surprising i know) but i'm not very hype at all and the lack of reaction of Harumin doesn't help. Just feel like Saburouta give Harumatsu fan some materials so they stop asking for it.

Same here.

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joined Oct 9, 2019

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joined Dec 26, 2014

And let's be honest there should be more official couples than just the main pair in the series.

No. Is there even a need for that ? Idk, bring back the other side couple from just before if you want another pair.I never liked the trope that all character should have a pair/is a lesbian, like i don't care that's a yuri, doesn't mean every girl has to be in couple with another girl. Not helping for me that it's Harumin of all peoples, Miss" I didn't do anything useful during the main serie beside being here" (yeah in case anyone didn't know in this thread, i don'treally like Harumin). Not helping either that the pairing feel foirced by default because Matsuri know she can't have Yuzu so she decide to poke at Harumin. I don't find any strong chemistry, at least not romantically.
Might be a killjoy (surprising i know) but i'm not very hype at all and the lack of reaction of Harumin doesn't help. Just feel like Saburouta give Harumatsu fan some materials so they stop asking for it.

You don't like harumin...??? It's like you don't like puppies or something

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joined Jul 16, 2013

Am I the only one finding the dialogue in this chapter rather odd?

No, you're not the only one; I did too. I had to reread a few panels.

Yeah it's actually a bit difficult to follow for some reason. I reread it so many times but it still feels a bit weird.
Anyway my ship is finally sailing and I can die happy

Karma
joined Oct 21, 2017

And let's be honest there should be more official couples than just the main pair in the series.

No. Is there even a need for that ? Idk, bring back the other side couple from just before if you want another pair.I never liked the trope that all character should have a pair/is a lesbian, like i don't care that's a yuri, doesn't mean every girl has to be in couple with another girl. Not helping for me that it's Harumin of all peoples, Miss" I didn't do anything useful during the main serie beside being here" (yeah in case anyone didn't know in this thread, i don'treally like Harumin). Not helping either that the pairing feel foirced by default because Matsuri know she can't have Yuzu so she decide to poke at Harumin. I don't find any strong chemistry, at least not romantically.
Might be a killjoy (surprising i know) but i'm not very hype at all and the lack of reaction of Harumin doesn't help. Just feel like Saburouta give Harumatsu fan some materials so they stop asking for it.

You don't like harumin...??? It's like you don't like puppies or something

Hahaha good one sadhomu82.

Minami
joined Jun 25, 2019

And let's be honest there should be more official couples than just the main pair in the series.

No. Is there even a need for that ? Idk, bring back the other side couple from just before if you want another pair.I never liked the trope that all character should have a pair/is a lesbian, like i don't care that's a yuri, doesn't mean every girl has to be in couple with another girl. Not helping for me that it's Harumin of all peoples, Miss" I didn't do anything useful during the main serie beside being here" (yeah in case anyone didn't know in this thread, i don'treally like Harumin). Not helping either that the pairing feel foirced by default because Matsuri know she can't have Yuzu so she decide to poke at Harumin. I don't find any strong chemistry, at least not romantically.
Might be a killjoy (surprising i know) but i'm not very hype at all and the lack of reaction of Harumin doesn't help. Just feel like Saburouta give Harumatsu fan some materials so they stop asking for it.

You don't like harumin...??? It's like you don't like puppies or something

Yeah sorry but i found Harumin very useless in the main serie so it's very hard to get attached to someone who seem to be here just for being the sexy quota. The only one i found more useless was Nene.and honestly, even Nene has her moments in the election arc. When Harumin had what ? She know nothing until the last volumr and even after she know she barely do something.. Might be biased but the only thing i remember Harumin has done is give her bike so Yuzu can bring Mei to see her dad off. So yeah, i don't like Harumin. Also for the record, Matsuri is my favorite characer.

Nyohohoho
joined Apr 20, 2013

Mangaka be like

Sensei
joined Nov 28, 2011

Am I the only one finding the dialogue in this chapter rather odd?

I barely if at all understood the conversation lmao

Roar%20small
joined Dec 18, 2013

I have to admit I find it strange to find people in a yuri focused site be against more official gay girls in a manga.

Nyohohoho
joined Apr 20, 2013

Dark_Tzitzimine posted:

I have to admit I find it strange to find people in a yuri focused site be against more official gay girls in a manga.

I'm actually quite happy with this, to be frank, this is what I was hoping for when they announced the +

joined Jan 6, 2017

So now Matsuri has kissed 3 out of her senpais... Wonder if we'll get them all?

Minami
joined Jun 25, 2019

I have to admit I find it strange to find people in a yuri focused site be against more official gay girls in a manga.

I refer to my comment of earlier.

Jahy-sama%20(11)
joined Jul 5, 2017

Our dreams have come true best chapter of the of Citrus Plus so far.

The thing between Harumi and Matsuri has been brewing for a long time. It's really interesting seeing how similar the both of them are. For example Harumi's tendency to remove herself out of situation where she might get hurt & Matsuri has a tendency to get involved with situations that don't directly involve her, plus they both don't like to talk about their feelings & both are stubborn, but still manage to be strong for their friends & family,

The character development was really good for them & chapter shows that Matsuri's the kind of person that never wants to admit when something is bothers them, but when confronted about it, tries to use mental gymnastics & turn the whole situation around with skillful wordplay & questionable actions. Harumi's pretty much right about her, nobody is going to know she is struggle with something if she keeps acting like this. Even the kiss was partly to try & show that what Harumi said didn't bother her when it in fact did. It also shows that Harumi does care about her a lot more than she may want to admit or even realize, but she also wants Matsuri to stop lying to herself about her troubles & acting like nothing's wrong because her tendency to act coy about her personal life & reactions to people questioning it ultimately does nothing but cause everyone close to her to worried.

Side Note
I think we can all agree that they have feelings for each other, I mean Saburo Uta has been giving a lot of hints that she been planning on having Harumi & Matsuri ending up together as a couple. And Harumi's lack of reaction to the kiss is in fact, a huge factor for HaruMatsu to become real since previously, Harumi had rejected all of Matsuri's teases & advances with clear annoyance. And the kiss happened in a moment where Matsuri wasn't lashing out so isn't like Harumi was cutting her some slack so at the very least her perception of Matsuri has shifted for the better a bit.

And let's be honest there should be more official couples than just the main pair in the series.

You really captured the image of the two characters well. I like to add something, there has always been this untold side of Harumi the author alludes to since the first chapter of citrus+, and so far Matsuri is the only one aware of this but neither of them actually address this, so when Harumi says that she is comfortable in her current position Matsuri replies with "you're funny after all"...….! Similarly for Matsuri, she too alludes that her past was a bit of a mess, and we can actually refer to her past behavior from the chapters which introduce Matsuri in Citrus, but the author doesn't continue with that aspect of Matsuri as to why she behaved that way...…! Basically the relationship between the two is still unknown to its full extent to us as the readers and Harumi and Matsuri are the only ones who have an inkling of what the other person is feeling, so that's why Matsuri asks why Harumi showed up even though they both knew Matsuri's situation and Matsuri, enquires "was it for 'everybody' "...........so far both of them are connected to each other because of Yuzu, and that either one doesn't want to reveal a side of them to Yuzu so that's why they keep alluding to each other and avoid actually addressing their feelings...…and even Matsuri kissing Harumi so that she won't speak about it to Yuzu. This sequel to Citrus actually focuses on what was left unsaid in the Original Series while adding in some new characters to act as a catalyst!

Roar%20small
joined Dec 18, 2013

Funny how the fabled HaruMatsu kiss happened so close to the series' 8th anniversary.

Karma
joined Oct 21, 2017

You really captured the image of the two characters well. I like to add something, there has always been this untold side of Harumi the author alludes to since the first chapter of citrus+, and so far Matsuri is the only one aware of this but neither of them actually address this, so when Harumi says that she is comfortable in her current position Matsuri replies with "you're funny after all"...….! Similarly for Matsuri, she too alludes that her past was a bit of a mess, and we can actually refer to her past behavior from the chapters which introduce Matsuri in Citrus, but the author doesn't continue with that aspect of Matsuri as to why she behaved that way...…! Basically the relationship between the two is still unknown to its full extent to us as the readers and Harumi and Matsuri are the only ones who have an inkling of what the other person is feeling, so that's why Matsuri asks why Harumi showed up even though they both knew Matsuri's situation and Matsuri, enquires "was it for 'everybody' "...........so far both of them are connected to each other because of Yuzu, and that either one doesn't want to reveal a side of them to Yuzu so that's why they keep alluding to each other and avoid actually addressing their feelings...…and even Matsuri kissing Harumi so that she won't speak about it to Yuzu. This sequel to Citrus actually focuses on what was left unsaid in the Original Series while adding in some new characters to act as a catalyst!

I agree that was well said.

Jahy-sama%20(11)
joined Jul 5, 2017

And let's be honest there should be more official couples than just the main pair in the series.

No. Is there even a need for that ? Idk, bring back the other side couple from just before if you want another pair.I never liked the trope that all character should have a pair/is a lesbian, like i don't care that's a yuri, doesn't mean every girl has to be in couple with another girl. Not helping for me that it's Harumin of all peoples, Miss" I didn't do anything useful during the main serie beside being here" (yeah in case anyone didn't know in this thread, i don'treally like Harumin). Not helping either that the pairing feel foirced by default because Matsuri know she can't have Yuzu so she decide to poke at Harumin. I don't find any strong chemistry, at least not romantically.
Might be a killjoy (surprising i know) but i'm not very hype at all and the lack of reaction of Harumin doesn't help. Just feel like Saburouta give Harumatsu fan some materials so they stop asking for it.

The thing is there was a lot of chemistry between Yuzu and Harumi in the Original Series, and Harumi was always supporting Yuzu throughout the series! I'm not sure what Saburo Uta planned for the storyline but I couldn't help but always feel a few missing pieces of all the side characters, I feel that this sequel is focusing and trying to fill in those gaps with the other characters, because the main couple is definitely together, the author can expand of the citrus universe to give it more life to all the characters.

Sulk
joined Jul 19, 2015

LETS FGUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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