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joined Jul 29, 2017

^ Yes, and seen it with guys as well as girls. Sometimes a person happens to strike up a friendship with someone else who is essentially a “marker” for another clique or “type,” and then it’s like, “Oh, you’re into ______ now—you must be too cool for us.”

(Not always stated, but that’s the subtext.)

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joined Feb 23, 2016

^ Yes, and seen it with guys as well as girls. Sometimes a person happens to strike up a friendship with someone else who is essentially a “marker” for another clique or “type,” and then it’s like, “Oh, you’re into ______ now—you must be too cool for us.”

(Not always stated, but that’s the subtext.)

Exactly(・ω・`)

Chinatsu%202
joined Jan 27, 2016

God I'm glad I never had to deal with clique mentalities as a kid talk about fair weather friends. But yeah Fujishiro has pulled off possibly the fastest redemption arc I've ever seen that actually felt reasonable and believable.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

God I'm glad I never had to deal with clique mentalities as a kid talk about fair weather friends. But yeah Fujishiro has pulled off possibly the fastest redemption arc I've ever seen that actually felt reasonable and believable.

I don't think many people think of themselves as actually being in a clique; they just hang out with a group of simpatico friends. It's those other people who have cliques. lol

Chinatsu%202
joined Jan 27, 2016

God I'm glad I never had to deal with clique mentalities as a kid talk about fair weather friends. But yeah Fujishiro has pulled off possibly the fastest redemption arc I've ever seen that actually felt reasonable and believable.

I don't think many people think of themselves as actually being in a clique; they just hang out with a group of simpatico friends. It's those other people who have cliques. lol

Like yeah there were different groups of friends but it wasn't like I'm always seeing in American highschool media where it's like "and those are the goths and the jocks and the cheerleaders (I've never even seen a cheerleader irl)" and there weren't like social ramifications for being friends with people in other groups.

Sayaka_ava
joined Nov 23, 2014

I suppose teenagers (well, not exclusively but anyway) are petty creatures wherever you go. Hard to say what level our two MCs were with their respective groups, but a true friend is probably worth the trade-off.

Alice Cheshire Moderator
Dynasty_misc015
joined Nov 7, 2014

majere posted:

Like yeah there were different groups of friends but it wasn't like I'm always seeing in American highschool media where it's like "and those are the goths and the jocks and the cheerleaders (I've never even seen a cheerleader irl)" and there weren't like social ramifications for being friends with people in other groups.

American media isn't even totally accurate for all American schools either. Though my high school was a bit of an odd one in that we're in the middle of the city yet it had only around 330 people. There was a lot of overlap between groups and even the geek group that I was part of got on well with groups like the jocks. (Though my that specific case it may have had something to do with several of us being rather athletic and giving the jocks a run for their money so they could respect that about us.)

White%20rose%20index
joined Aug 16, 2018

(...) I don't want to read a scene where she yells words of hate at Nanaki: "You ruined my life! It's all your fault! Get away from me!" and more similar stuff... no, no, please, no...

Though probably inevitable I also hope that this won't be the case....

Welp, color me surprised.

It did happen, against our hopes... I guess it was indeed inevitable...

But Nanaki took it in stride with impressive coolness and composure. She didn't react with pathos, sobbing and running away, as most manga girls tend to react when in this kind of situation. She calmly explained the facts to Kurokawa and made her realize she was blaming the wrong person. And finished with what amounts to a declaration of love: "It doesn't matter how others look at us, or how different we are. I don't care about any of that. I want to be with you!" Wow!

I wouldn't have thought Nanaki had it in her, honestly. It's amazing how she has changed since chapter 1! Being dumped by that piece of shit of a guy really did her a world of good.

Cnwdrjjvmail6tq
joined Jun 30, 2017

This kurokawa was so annoying in this chapter e.e

i dont get it, they all equally hot

010
joined Jul 21, 2016

Gyaru girl is the best

Blye_Flamsteed
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joined May 8, 2018

Everybody is useless in this manga, not only Nanaki

Omochikaeri_thumb
joined Nov 2, 2013

Seems like the maturity level has flipped between the two. Nanaki is a lot more tolerable now than kurokawa

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joined Oct 27, 2017

This manga is great. Tapping into probably the most shallow and selfish part of being a teenager: judging your friends by who they hang out with.

Kids DO THAT.

Heihtzz
joined Oct 16, 2016

Now kiss.

Images
joined Feb 5, 2018

So glad there was a handkerchief between they're hands, or else my mom would've caught me looking at a direct hand holding panel. Wipes sweat from forehead that could've been disastrous.

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joined Aug 10, 2015

So glad there was a handkerchief between they're hands, or else my mom would've caught me looking at a direct hand holding panel. Wipes sweat from forehead that could've been disastrous.

nanaki was like miss me with that gay shit nigga

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joined Mar 12, 2014

Yeah the friends are shit for ditching MC, but tbf the MC just started hanging around with the class bully out of nowhere, so colour me unsurprised

Also the touching scene of gyaru girl being on her own for like what 1 period of class really was her being strong, it's not like she knew her friends would ditch the MC and MC would come crawling back to her oh wait

Bd-9rivccaa0cut
joined Aug 10, 2015

This manga is great. Tapping into probably the most shallow and selfish part of being a teenager: judging your friends by who they hang out with.

Kids DO THAT.

Yeeeeup. A big part of the reason I hated high school was because of that clique shit. Ugh.

Alice Cheshire Moderator
Dynasty_misc015
joined Nov 7, 2014

Orangey posted:

Yeah the friends are shit for ditching MC, but tbf the MC just started hanging around with the class bully out of nowhere, so colour me unsurprised

Maybe it's just me but personally I'd be more concerned that my friend got wrapped up in something awful rather than immediately jumping to resenting them.

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joined Apr 23, 2015

Fujishiro knew they were going to kick Kurokawa out of her group sooner or later, huh? This is starting to sound premeditated!

She was aware the effect there public time together would have but did back off when asked(though too late by then) and offers an apology with yet another promise to take a hike if that's what's wanted? Interesting.

I often wonder about friendships like Fujishiro's one with her former friends. How close were they as friends anyway?

Without the yuri tag I would think this was just a story of SUPER friendship though. Which is always a good story to tell but yuri is still the bus I came on yo.

Seeing as how the Kurokawa sees herself as similar to her former friends I wonder if she would have done the same thing if one of her former friends were in her current position.

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joined Apr 23, 2013

The premise started off well, but I’m out off by several factors;

  1. I’m supposed to believe that moe-blob 1 is hideous while moe-blob 2 is magazine cover pretty when I’m seeing two moe-blobs.
  2. Fujishiro seems not merely capricious, but unstable. Kurokawa is not a real foil for her.
  3. The story feels oppressive with these two as characters, and no other people (except as plot devices).
Smoltopbun
joined Mar 2, 2018

Wlfking posted:

Seeing as how the Kurokawa sees herself as similar to her former friends I wonder if she would have done the same thing if one of her former friends were in her current position.

I doubt it. I see her friends more as the person Fujishiro describes in ch01

Make a laughing stock out of ... the bitch who makes fun of me

Terumoko
joined Feb 18, 2013

Hmm it's becoming more readily apparent as to which girls are actually useless princesses.

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