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joined Mar 27, 2019

I’m kinda happy with the second ending. First one was confusing and open end conclusion which wasn’t satisfying for my imagination. The author continued to pursue that this is type of ending that she wanted. She probably didn’t want to end it exactly this way due to pressure of being a serie and having rush time to finish. But I’m glad to know that the author wanted it to be yuri.

joined Feb 18, 2015

I'm happy with both endings.

Agreed.

I also agree...

I appreciate that opinions can differ, but I don't really UNDERSTAND why so many people didn't see this ending coming. It was hinted at throughout the manga.

Kaoru pretty much came to the realization, through the events that occurred, that it was really Uta that made her life livable all along and not her brother, especially knowing that her brother had only married her because of a sense of guilt based on his last conversation with her dying mother. There were several scenes that hinted that she might be developing feelings beyond "sisterly" feelings for Uta earlier in the story, which were always commented on by readers and frequently highlighted on the credits page by the translators. You can say what you will about the "rushed" or "time skip" ending being an issue, but, frankly, any ending where they got together where there wasn't a significant amount of time between when Kaoru's marriage ended and she realized her growing feelings for her former sister-in-law, now roommate, would have seemed FAR too soon and a bit contrived after the way she left things the last time they talked, which was, pretty much, 'I still love your brother, but you were the person who kept me grounded and made me feel like I had a real family and possibly the person I truly needed to have with me all along.' Going from that directly to, 'I've changed my mind and I think I've fallen in love with you!' would have come across as false. Putting time between those events and Uta moving in with her, allowing Kaoru time on her own to become more her own person and then more time after they started living together again for her to come to grips with her real feelings makes much more sense. However, those would have been BORING manga chapters, so a time skip makes a lot of sense.

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20200119_124434
joined Jan 19, 2020

^zensunni explained it well and I 100% agree with them.

That aside I am happy with the manga, I don't care how dramatic or angsty it was, I enjoyed it a lot! Good manga just wish we would've seen more of Kuro

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Mint
joined Jun 5, 2015

zensunni posted:

I appreciate that opinions can differ, but I don't really UNDERSTAND why so many people didn't see this ending coming. It was hinted at throughout the manga.

Lol. Nobody said they didn't see it coming.

Kaoru pretty much came to the realization, through the events that occurred, that it was really Uta that made her life livable all along and not her brother, especially knowing that her brother had only married her because of a sense of guilt based on his last conversation with her dying mother. There were several scenes that hinted that she might be developing feelings beyond "sisterly" feelings for Uta earlier in the story, which were always commented on by readers and frequently highlighted on the credits page by the translators. You can say what you will about the "rushed" or "time skip" ending being an issue, but, frankly, any ending where they got together where there wasn't a significant amount of time between when Kaoru's marriage ended and she realized her growing feelings for her former sister-in-law, now roommate, would have seemed FAR too soon and a bit contrived after the way she left things the last time they talked, which was, pretty much, 'I still love your brother, but you were the person who kept me grounded and made me feel like I had a real family and possibly the person I truly needed to have with me all along.' Going from that directly to, 'I've changed my mind and I think I've fallen in love with you!' would have come across as false. Putting time between those events and Uta moving in with her, allowing Kaoru time on her own to become more her own person and then more time after they started living together again for her to come to grips with her real feelings makes much more sense. However, those would have been BORING manga chapters, so a time skip makes a lot of sense.

Nice fanfic you wrote there. Also I don't understand why you put it into spoilers? You think it's controversial idea or something and hope people who disagree happen to not read it, because they'd be afraid of spoilers?

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joined Feb 28, 2015

Lol everyone accepts that they are close but they are turning into lovers was the entire premise/ This manga was about how their relationship will develop but you are saying that it is boring and it is ok that they magically become in love when time passes. Like I honestly get what you mean zensunni but this manga as a whole was a boring dramatic series without much happening so skipping time when finally something is happening is not a great way but more of a running wa. Atleast that's what I think. Basically you are saying it is ok to skip whatever happens between them that made them a couple while that was the whole point of the manga.

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joined Jul 29, 2017

Citrus Syndrome
As long as the MCs got together in the end, there were always some readers who wouldn’t care how it happened, no matter how implausibly, no matter how disconnected from way the story developed, no matter how much authorial handwaving it took.

Kaoru’s specifically sexual feelings for Uta—we had almost 50 chapter equivalents, and those feelings are directly presented in a handful of pages in an asspull epilogue.

But they kissed, so all is well.

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joined Mar 29, 2019

So the original author drew a new ending? Huh....well then continue it. We want our happiness.

joined Jul 14, 2016

@linkuan I assume you didnt mean to post that comment 10 times- might wanna delete all the extras.

Hahahq didn't notice. My it wasn't posting so I spamed the post button. Sorry tehe

Honeyview_hanekawa1
joined Feb 1, 2021

I'm surprised either endings are so divisive!!! I loved them both. At first, I was okay with some open end, I mean it was still kinda sad, but at least they were going to live together, so it was huge, and it left the possibility of who knows what might happen in the future, you know?! And now we got the epilogue?! I feel like it's that "who knows what might happen", that turns out to be super positive! I was smiling when I read it, and I'm still smiling thinking about it!

joined Aug 29, 2015

A slow-burn manga with a shoehorn happy ending. The epilogue played out like a doujin.

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joined Jan 24, 2018

Longest. slowburn. ever
Bitches in their 40's before making a move.
Kaoru waiting for that adult Uta fineness.
Teen Uta wouldn't believe she'd become so fine that Kaoru couldn't hold back her horny and finally makes a move.

joined Jan 14, 2020

Uta making Kaoru's life livable is reason for them living together, but not for romance.

Kaoru's interesting amounts of skinship with Uta could point toward romance/sex after shedding the husband... which would have been interesting to actually see, and probably not after five or more years[1]. Instead we timeskipped from angsty resolution to drunken "snap gay".

We got a destination but skipped half the journey.

[1] Uta was a senior in high school, we skipped past college, they've been living together while Uta worked, so at least 4 + 0.5 + 0.5. I forget if there was a statement of even more years passing...

Faye_valentine_2
joined Jan 31, 2013

That.... Sucked. Wasted time with this one.

Murcielago_reiko
joined Dec 9, 2019

The epilogue played out like a doujin.

Hot damn this BURN!

Yuu
joined Mar 28, 2015

princess_daphie posted:

I'm surprised either endings are so divisive!!! I loved them both. At first, I was okay with some open end, I mean it was still kinda sad, but at least they were going to live together, so it was huge, and it left the possibility of who knows what might happen in the future, you know?! And now we got the epilogue?! I feel like it's that "who knows what might happen", that turns out to be super positive! I was smiling when I read it, and I'm still smiling thinking about it!

The need to spell out a happy ending, vs leaving it to the imagination of the readers is debatable.

Obviously, at first, the author was going for the latter (Cf the title itself), but ended up doing the former.

Whether under the pressure of fans, of the editor, or because they had second thoughts about it, we will never know.

People who wanted to stay with the first ending can just ignore this chapter and consider it as non-canon, or as an alternate ending.

Hotyangicon3
joined Jun 6, 2013

Yeah the epilogue did feel like a fanfiction/doujin because we didn't see the little bits of realizations Kaoru had about Uta. Spoiler tag person was saying it'd be boring to portray. I don't think it would be. I really want to see how the brother and them reconciled, plus I wanna know what Ritsuko's deal is!

Also seems too convenient that she falls for her. Guess emotions and logics attached to them are weird though.

I agree with the other person that I was talking about this author going back to one shots. Those love live one shots were freaking magical. So I'd prefer to see more one-shots than serialized manga.

It just feels like a slap in the face that the author ends it on unrequited love, and then decides nah let's make it required. I don't like the back pedaling.

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Riinu
joined Jun 10, 2019

Uta with long hair is pretty sweet

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joined Mar 12, 2014

I prefer this to the open end, but also goddamn Uta really girl, living with Kaoru as an adult for a year not expecting anything but also you're living together and ???

Ah man, whatever, was still kinda cute even though I think Uta is a sucker for being a doormat

joined Jan 14, 2020

Ah man, whatever, was still kinda cute even though I think Uta is a sucker for being a doormat

She was a sucker, but now she's getting laid! Wait long enough, hanging around your target until everyone else leaves, and payoff! It's the Nice Girl Way! :D

The real question is whether they've had separate bedrooms. Remember when Kaoru needed to hold Uta's hand to fall asleep?

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Rsz_1rsz_0232-006
joined Mar 16, 2018

Oh no she died
To think she spent the whole of her life in an unrequited love and the very moment that love was requited she died from it.
This is truly a tragedy

20200825_160113
joined Aug 25, 2020

Ah, it's finally over.

Bldrnner
joined Mar 3, 2019

Mixed feelings about this. Waaay earlier discussions about "Kaoru snaps gay" seems to have come to fruition. Would you look at that.

I can't blame Kaoru for feeling loving carnal desire towards Uta.
Uta has grown up to be a fine-looking and loaded lesbian.

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joined Aug 19, 2020

I can't blame Kaoru for feeling loving carnal desire towards Uta.
Uta has grown up to be a fine-looking and loaded lesbian.

She sure has, that's my main takeaway from this, seeing Uta's fine-looking self again. And it was nice seeing Kaoru too, her character might suck, but she's also gotten hotter.

joined Jan 24, 2021

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YES.

Though I would've totally been fine with a bittersweet realistic ending.

joined Feb 14, 2019

Nice to see that have been getting a few positive comments, I liked the little extra epilogue/sequel and the negativity was a bit overwhelming for a while there.

A couple of posts commented that "chapter 38" didn't really seem to fit in with the flow of the others... there is a reason for that... it isn't actually part of the main story, it is a separate one shot first released with a limited edition of the Japanese volume 7 for the series, but also being sold separately. Observant readers might have noticed the finality of the note at the end of ch37, the lack of a ch38 title page and no link to a Yuri Hime volume. The credits image is the cover of the story with its own title 紡いだ糸のその先で (tsumuida ito no sonosaki de/ Beyond the spun thread) making it clear it is outside the main series, cf たとえとどかぬ糸だとしても (tatoe todokanu ito da to shite mo Google translate says "Even if it's a thread that can't be reached" which goes to show about machines and figurative language... somewhat beyond my Japanese fluency, but I think the key elements are "even if" and unfulfilled wish/desire).

I discussed the relationship to the main story in a post made when the raws started circulating, but that quite some time ago, so I thought it could stand repeating now the translation is up. https://dynasty-scans.com/forum/posts/655457

It might be nice if the distinction was made a bit clearer for casual readers, eg by calling it something other then chapter 38 and/or an explanatory panel at the start of the chapter (hint, hint). That said I hope it is included in the official English translation, since I think confirmation broadens the appeal (and avoids endless arguments about whether they are canon as a couple).

I have to say it is nice to be vindicated in my feeling that Risako would be supportive of Uta/Kaoru if she knew. I never felt like her behaviour really lined up with wanting Kaoru for herself, just that she was convinced Reiichi was wrong for Kaoru.

As for Uta's "torment", the main series made it clear she had decided being close to Kaoru was worth the pain, she said as much. She chose her torment, as part of being true to her identity, and I'm not sure why some people don't get that (but the fact that they don't makes in unsurprising they don't get the rest of the story).

The story/resolution was about coming Uta to terms with her own feelings (and secondarily a similar path for Kaoru), not about getting together as a couple, that is very much epilogue stuff.

I also don't think there was much untold mystery in Kaoru "breaking gay"; even at the start of the series she was most of the way there already, deeply invested in a ersatz relationship with Uta; discovering Uta's romantic feelings didn't discourage her (she even drew comfort from it)...by the end they were planning a Boston Marriage together. It isn't a huge leap that once she got her life in order and was living together with Uta without all the other stuff hanging over her head that she realised she did want more. Given their painful history, and Kaoru's past mistakes it also feels realistic that the hang up for Kaoru would be about confessing and changing their relationship, not about actually having gay feelings.
Because of her own experience Kaoru respects Uta's right to hang onto her feelings; but she also knows the pain of uncertainty - if she was 100% sure she would never have romantic feelings for Uta she would have told her as much (Uta knows Kaoru better than anyone else does, and her takeaway at the end of ch36 was that there might be a chance some day).

I'd also like to say that I consider that it was an important distinction that it wasn't that Kaoru needed to get drunk to unlock feelings for Uta... as her words and Risako's make clear, it had been weighing on her mind for quite some time before that, she had even been trying set up an opportunity to talk to Uta. She was just afraid to make the leap and actually confess to Uta.

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