peak chapter

ahhh my babies.... im so glad we've come this far

LESSGOOOOOOO!!! i couldn’t ask for more
these 2 are so adorable!

this chapter was so well done. This case file was my favorite in volume 5 (or 6 tbh) its just such an important moment of catharsis

Slowly but surely!

this part was awesome in the novel, glad it's in manga form now. The fact that Sorawo's emotional barriers just shatter all at once, allowing for a lot of development in a small period of time, probably feels unrealistic to people who haven't experienced it themselves though

In the last page, it's written "l'amour à sens unique", which means "unrequited love" in French. I hope Toriko won't use that bag in the future :)

Glad to read that file in the manga form. I wouldn't have minded a few pages to convey Sorawo's reaction to see herself through Toriko's eye. I remember it being a bit slow in the LN, and very descriptive and it feels more like a flash here.

Well, regardless, I'm so happy the manga went that far! Can't wait to re-read in the physical copy of it!

I dunno, I'm happy Sorawo finally realises the truth, but why is only Toriko allowed to be sad? Why is Sorawo supposed to do all the effort of trying to meet her halfway, while she has all that history and baggage from her past that are clearly affecting who she is as a person and how she behaves. She is litterally traumatised from her past experiences and this affects everything she does, thinks and feels. And Toriko is the one we should feel bad for because her crush doesn't reciporate her feelings. Get the fuck out of here. If you actually love someone, you don't force them to love you back. Like, if you notice your crush gets uncomfortable whenever you try to make a move, lies, avoids you, you should know something is wrong, and if you truly love them, you would try to figure out what is going instead of getting angry or sad about it. It feels Toriko thinks she entitled to Sorawas love.

Why would she have PTSD, though? What Sorawo went through is no big deal; it's a fairly common story, really.

This comment is hilarious to me. Are you also disassociated from the real world? - although this time, because of too much fiction. Characters in stories frequently go through a lot of trauma that's just depicted as NBD normal because of the particular story they're in. In real life ... not so much.

It's considered no big deal by Sorawo herself, as a narrator. Which is logical, when it's all you know, it's your normal. But everyone around her consider her story as a big deal. So even from a fictional point of view, this is not considered normal.

Ever thought she consideres it no big deal because of the trauma? That her brain has done everything it can to normalize it as a defense mechanism?

I dunno, I'm happy Sorawo finally realises the truth, but why is only Toriko allowed to be sad? Why is Sorawo supposed to do all the effort of trying to meet her halfway, while she has all that history and baggage from her past that are clearly affecting who she is as a person and how she behaves. She is litterally traumatised from her past experiences and this affects everything she does, thinks and feels. And Toriko is the one we should feel bad for because her crush doesn't reciporate her feelings. Get the fuck out of here. If you actually love someone, you don't force them to love you back. Like, if you notice your crush gets uncomfortable whenever you try to make a move, lies, avoids you, you should know something is wrong, and if you truly love them, you would try to figure out what is going instead of getting angry or sad about it. It feels Toriko thinks she entitled to Sorawas love.

Because Sorawo is in love with Toriko and she knows that? Sorawo herself mentions how easy she is to read, add this to the fact that she always talks about how pretty Toriko is and stuff, and you have a person (Toriko) who sees a person in love with them, who for some reason rejects their advances.

I dunno, I'm happy Sorawo finally realises the truth, but why is only Toriko allowed to be sad? Why is Sorawo supposed to do all the effort of trying to meet her halfway, while she has all that history and baggage from her past that are clearly affecting who she is as a person and how she behaves. She is litterally traumatised from her past experiences and this affects everything she does, thinks and feels. And Toriko is the one we should feel bad for because her crush doesn't reciporate her feelings. Get the fuck out of here. If you actually love someone, you don't force them to love you back. Like, if you notice your crush gets uncomfortable whenever you try to make a move, lies, avoids you, you should know something is wrong, and if you truly love them, you would try to figure out what is going instead of getting angry or sad about it. It feels Toriko thinks she entitled to Sorawas love.

Because Sorawo is in love with Toriko and she knows that? Sorawo herself mentions how easy she is to read, add this to the fact that she always talks about how pretty Toriko is and stuff, and you have a person (Toriko) who sees a person in love with them, who for some reason rejects their advances.

Because having feelings is not the same wanting to be together, you can't just make that decision for someone else. And Sorawa didn't even realise until recently what her feelings were. I'm not saying Toriko can't feel sad, but be atleast a bit more aware of Sorawas feelings. She has also been aware of Sorawas behavior, and she just gets mad at it instead of trying to understand why she behaves like this.

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I dunno, I'm happy Sorawo finally realises the truth, but why is only Toriko allowed to be sad? Why is Sorawo supposed to do all the effort of trying to meet her halfway, while she has all that history and baggage from her past that are clearly affecting who she is as a person and how she behaves. She is litterally traumatised from her past experiences and this affects everything she does, thinks and feels. And Toriko is the one we should feel bad for because her crush doesn't reciporate her feelings. Get the fuck out of here. If you actually love someone, you don't force them to love you back. Like, if you notice your crush gets uncomfortable whenever you try to make a move, lies, avoids you, you should know something is wrong, and if you truly love them, you would try to figure out what is going instead of getting angry or sad about it. It feels Toriko thinks she entitled to Sorawas love.

Because Sorawo is in love with Toriko and she knows that? Sorawo herself mentions how easy she is to read, add this to the fact that she always talks about how pretty Toriko is and stuff, and you have a person (Toriko) who sees a person in love with them, who for some reason rejects their advances.

Because having feelings is not the same wanting to be together, you can't just make that decision for someone else. And Sorawa didn't even realise until recently what her feelings were. I'm not saying Toriko can't feel sad, but be atleast a bit more aware of Sorawas feelings. She has also been aware of Sorawas behavior, and she just gets mad at it instead of trying to understand why she behaves like this.

Methinks Toriko is much more aware of Sorawo's feelings and behavior and is trying much harder to understand Sorawo and be considerate than our unreliable narrator (Sorawo) realizes...

Understanding someone's behavior doesn't make that behavior any easier to digest. Toriko is head over heels in love with Sorawo, who has also reciprocated those feelings (while naked and alone with her in a hot spring, of all places lol), and yet Sorawo runs away at every chance of physical intimacy and runs away from depending their relationship even emotionally. It feels pretty reasonable that Toriko would be sad about this.

I think the audience can feel sad for Sorawo and her very messed up family history (lost her mom, family fell into a cult, became very messed up from traumatic cultist activities) and also feel sad for Toriko that her love interest isn't returning her feelings (remember that Toriko also lost both parents (I believe first mentioned in manga vol 3?), lost Satsuki (her only friend/romantic interest), and is so shy that she basically only has Kozakura and Sorawo in her life).

It's not a contest (not one that either of them is winning ;_;). We can be sad for both of them in various ways.

I dunno, I'm happy Sorawo finally realises the truth, but why is only Toriko allowed to be sad? Why is Sorawo supposed to do all the effort of trying to meet her halfway, while she has all that history and baggage from her past that are clearly affecting who she is as a person and how she behaves. She is litterally traumatised from her past experiences and this affects everything she does, thinks and feels. And Toriko is the one we should feel bad for because her crush doesn't reciporate her feelings. Get the fuck out of here. If you actually love someone, you don't force them to love you back. Like, if you notice your crush gets uncomfortable whenever you try to make a move, lies, avoids you, you should know something is wrong, and if you truly love them, you would try to figure out what is going instead of getting angry or sad about it. It feels Toriko thinks she entitled to Sorawas love.

Because Sorawo is in love with Toriko and she knows that? Sorawo herself mentions how easy she is to read, add this to the fact that she always talks about how pretty Toriko is and stuff, and you have a person (Toriko) who sees a person in love with them, who for some reason rejects their advances.

Because having feelings is not the same wanting to be together, you can't just make that decision for someone else. And Sorawa didn't even realise until recently what her feelings were. I'm not saying Toriko can't feel sad, but be atleast a bit more aware of Sorawas feelings. She has also been aware of Sorawas behavior, and she just gets mad at it instead of trying to understand why she behaves like this.

Methinks Toriko is much more aware of Sorawo's feelings and behavior and is trying much harder to understand Sorawo and be considerate than our unreliable narrator (Sorawo) realizes...

Understanding someone's behavior doesn't make that behavior any easier to digest. Toriko is head over heels in love with Sorawo, who has also reciprocated those feelings (while naked and alone with her in a hot spring, of all places lol), and yet Sorawo runs away at every chance of physical intimacy and runs away from depending their relationship even emotionally. It feels pretty reasonable that Toriko would be sad about this.

I think the audience can feel sad for Sorawo and her very messed up family history (lost her mom, family fell into a cult, became very messed up from traumatic cultist activities) and also feel sad for Toriko that her love interest isn't returning her feelings (remember that Toriko also lost both parents (I believe first mentioned in manga vol 3?), lost Satsuki (her only friend/romantic interest), and is so shy that she basically only has Kozakura and Sorawo in her life).

It's not a contest (not one that either of them is winning ;_;). We can be sad for both of them in various ways.

I understand why Toriko is sad, but I don't agree with her not even questioning why Sorawo is behaving like this, just getting upset and angry about it like she isn't getting the attention she thinks she is owed. If you are considerated about someone elses feelings, you would stop your advances when you notice it makes the other person uncomfortable. But instead she doesn't, she just gets angry about it. That is just wrong.

My biggest gripe with this whole thing is Toriko expects Sorawo to understand her feelings for her expect her to understand why she gets sad and angry, but again, she doesn't try to understand Sorawas, doesn't try to understand why she is getting uncomfortable, and is lying, or avoiding the whole thing.

I also understand that the readers do feel sad Sorawa, my issue isn't about that.

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Toriko is absolutely putting in the work to understand Sorawo, the story simply isn't from her POV (and Sorawo won't explain the details of what happened to her).

Toriko is absolutely putting in the work to understand Sorawo, the story simply isn't from her POV (and Sorawo won't explain the details of what happened to her).

Is that why she keeps pushing herself onto Sorawo even though she is clearly uncomfortable with it. Either she doesn't understand why, and does no effort to find out, or she does understand and ignores it. Even if she doesn't understand why, she absolutely notices how Sorawo reacts to her advances (because she gets sad or angry about it), and most of the times it's bad, and she keeps doing it. Is this how we want people to behave, just keep pushing yourself onto the other person regardless of their reactions until they accept it?

I am going to move on from this, I am not only wasting my own time but everyone elses as well.
I still like the manga a lot, one day I'll read the LN.

Toriko is absolutely putting in the work to understand Sorawo, the story simply isn't from her POV (and Sorawo won't explain the details of what happened to her).

This is one of the reasons I often find light novel > manga adaptations to be sub-optimal (although I do quite like this one and many others)--each medium has things it does well and less well. In particular, (among other differences) prose can handle deep dives into a character's POV much more economically than a visual medium, and can switch POVs fairly easily as well. So readers often comment that they don't get the insights into the characters they get from the LN.

@Hypixion: It will become more apparent later on that Toriko is indeed trying to understand Sorawo. It's still going to take several years for the manga to reach, but they'll get to a point where her thoughts on the matter and how both she and Sorawo see physical and emotional bonding are clarified. Rest assured the writing is not simply trying to paint Sorawo as wrong for reacting this way to Toriko's advances right now. There's a lot of nuance to it.

@Blastaar: Don't know if you read the novel, but the manga is almost 1:1 to it. The novel is also exclusively from Sorawo's POV and it takes her just as long to come to terms with Toriko's feelings for her.

@Hypixion: It will become more apparent later on that Toriko is indeed trying to understand Sorawo. It's still going to take several years for the manga to reach, but they'll get to a point where her thoughts on the matter and how both she and Sorawo see physical and emotional bonding are clarified. Rest assured the writing is not simply trying to paint Sorawo as wrong for reacting this way to Toriko's advances right now. There's a lot of nuance to it.

It's already very apparent, honestly. I do hope the adaptation continues long enough though; those later volumes must be adapted.

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I understand why Toriko is sad, but I don't agree with her not even questioning why Sorawo is behaving like this, just getting upset and angry about it like she isn't getting the attention she thinks she is owed. If you are considerated about someone elses feelings, you would stop your advances when you notice it makes the other person uncomfortable. But instead she doesn't, she just gets angry about it. That is just wrong.

My biggest gripe with this whole thing is Toriko expects Sorawo to understand her feelings for her expect her to understand why she gets sad and angry, but again, she doesn't try to understand Sorawas, doesn't try to understand why she is getting uncomfortable, and is lying, or avoiding the whole thing.

I also understand that the readers do feel sad Sorawa, my issue isn't about that.

It's a bit ironic how you insist on Toriko getting "upset and angry" with Sorawo, when literally in this very chapter Sorawo realizes that she was sad and not angry, as she had mistakenly assumed previously.

@Blastaar: Don't know if you read the novel, but the manga is almost 1:1 to it. The novel is also exclusively from Sorawo's POV and it takes her just as long to come to terms with Toriko's feelings for her.

I honestly think that is one of the strongest point of this series. Sorawo is such a well-written narrator.

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@Blastaar: Don't know if you read the novel, but the manga is almost 1:1 to it. The novel is also exclusively from Sorawo's POV and it takes her just as long to come to terms with Toriko's feelings for her.

I have not read the novel, but I don’t doubt your characterization of it. I’m mostly going from comments on other LN > manga adaptations where readers of both conduct a kind of running commentary filling in plot and character details that aren’t shown in the manga, explaining motivations that aren’t given in the manga, or otherwise treating the manga as a truncated version of the LN.

I do think it’s generally true that visual media tend to be good at depicting scenes while prose often does extensive summary more efficiently.

Hypixion posted:

Toriko is absolutely putting in the work to understand Sorawo, the story simply isn't from her POV (and Sorawo won't explain the details of what happened to her).

Is that why she keeps pushing herself onto Sorawo even though she is clearly uncomfortable with it. Either she doesn't understand why, and does no effort to find out, or she does understand and ignores it. Even if she doesn't understand why, she absolutely notices how Sorawo reacts to her advances (because she gets sad or angry about it), and most of the times it's bad, and she keeps doing it. Is this how we want people to behave, just keep pushing yourself onto the other person regardless of their reactions until they accept it?

I will say, this issue absolutely does continue to be an issue with how the characters relate to each other. It's not as though Sorawo suddenly realizes that, yes, Toriko actually does love her and the relationship is solved. There are several other major related emotional struggles that they have regarding intimacy and what their relationship means -- and we're several volumes of light novel away from where this issue really comes to a head.