HOW CAN THIS SERIES BE SO GOOD?

LIKE FR WHO THINKS OF SUCH A COMPLEX STORY?

Cause this is not only a woman discovering she's a lesbian type story, I know I'll state the obvious but with the main character being a 69 year old woman, it makes it so much different, so many more things to think about other than just "oh, I'm in love with a girl!!", she's got a whole family and not only that but A WHOLE LIFE she's lived essentially as a completely different person. To make such a turn around to your actual self at such a late point in your life takes so much courage and it's sure to make such 180° changes to everything. To write a story like this takes a lot of courage in order to write it in a realistic way and respectful way of what would be to come out and realize your sexuality at such an age.

This series truly amazes me. It baffles me with how good and, even in its "simplicity", how ambitious it is. I love it

i really hope the son came over to apologize and not, like, act like even more of a douche about his mother having a life. also loving how natural and sweet the chemistry between the leads is. i really want them to get a happy ending

yay a new chapter of my favorite elderly lesbians! I'm glad this is still being updated
Also she looks good for being 69 years old wow
And of course the man had to ruin it in the end

I don't see it as ruining it. Of course he's barging in without being invited and intruding her mother's privacy, but sometimes when people feels "left out", they do what they can and what they know in order to "reconnect". What I mean to say is, maybe this will be for the better. Maybe he'll learn to see her mother in a different light, essentially, as another human being with desires and a life of her own.

I speak from the experience of when my sister came out and distanced herself from the family. My dad was really hurt by it (my sister distancing from us, not her being a lesbian), and tried how he could to reconnect with her. Of course, his methods were rough and lacked touch, but he did the only things he knew, as a person with a severe lack of emotional intelligence. Eventually, he learned to have more touch, he learned healthier ways, and my sister learned he missed her. What I mean to say is, it starts rough when people lack emotional intelligence, but it's what they do when they don't know other ways. Starts are never easy, and I see this as a way for her son to finally start to truly connect with his mother.

Sorry if this is too large of a response, but since I viewed it in a very different way from you, I wanted to explain my point

Mom: "Oh sorry dear, I have plans with a friend."

Son: "You're making new friends? And going out? Great! I'm happy for you! Have fun, Mom!"

Not that hard you twat waffle.

EDIT: Anyway, Hanamonogatari Day is always a great day.

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@twizbuck twat waffle is such a perfect descriptor for that ungrateful offspring. Thanks for reminding me of it.

This feels a little weird for me since my birthday was the 15th, then read about a couple of ladies hanging out for supper (or dinner date if you like) and it turns out it's one of their birthday. I haven't spent time with someone besides family for my birthday in over 30+ years (and no desire to, honestly). I do enjoy this manga if only for the fact that someone other than high school kids that are the main characters or even the primary characters. Now if son would stop acting like a complete twat waffle and show some kindness and respect to his mother I'd be happier.

this guy better not be showing up at his mother's house unannounced at 8:21 (EIGHT TWENTY-ONE) PM just to complain, LEAVE MY OLD LADIES ALONE

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Hmm, I hope the “I don’t have much time” is just a general hectic life need-to-accomplish-something kind of thing and not some terminal illness kinda thing.

Peak

I love how Hanayo just offered to be Yoshiko's housewife with no hesitation. I love this story so.

Hmm, I hope the “I don’t have much time” is just a general hectic life need-to-accomplish-something kind of thing and not some terminal illness kinda thing.

I think it's just her being realistic about their age. Just a general feeling when you're about 69.

Also I hope her son isn't about to be annoying. I'm trying to be fair but his first impression is very childish and whiny and I'm hoping "controlling," doesn't also get added.

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Hanayo is so naturally vibrant and funny, it makes it extra bittersweet that she's had to basically kill such a large part of herself for so long :( It's amazing that she finally gets to truly live and have all the fun she never got to enjoy before. You go granny, eat all the nabe you want with the woman you like ! Also, the son better be there to be an ally or he can frick right off.

Listen, I don't think her son has bad intentions here but I'm tempted to bet money that he's going to put his foot in his mouth in the process.

I cannot wait for more of this, this ending had me salivating for more

Keita is learning a lesson or two. :D

Meanwhile, a lovely birthday date. ^_^

And eating Godzilla.

I hope Keita gets a grip and starts to care more about his mom, I hate when sons are like that.

Besides that, what a cute chapter!!!

Listen, I don't think her son has bad intentions here but I'm tempted to bet money that he's going to put his foot in his mouth in the process.

This. I mean, if he was going to NOT put his foot in his mouth, one signal would be his ability to wait for this conversation to a time when he wouldn't be interrupt her time with her friend.

I'd also want to qualify that . . . I don't think he CONSCIOUSLY has bad intentions. But it's coming at least partly from a self-centred impulse. Maybe he wants to check on her, maybe he wants to reconnect, maybe he wants to greet her new friend, maybe he even wants to apologize in some way, but with this timing none of that really makes any sense outside of a kind of patronizing but insecure need to emphasize that he's the centre of the family universe. I mean, about the BEST possibility is something like "I want to give my endorsement to whatever you're doing and be supportive--and obviously you NEED my endorsement before you do anything, so it's OK for me to interrupt whatever you're doing in order to give it." And it gets worse from there.

Listen, I don't think her son has bad intentions here but I'm tempted to bet money that he's going to put his foot in his mouth in the process.

This. I mean, if he was going to NOT put his foot in his mouth, one signal would be his ability to wait for this conversation to a time when he wouldn't be interrupt her time with her friend.

I'd also want to qualify that . . . I don't think he CONSCIOUSLY has bad intentions. But it's coming at least partly from a self-centred impulse. Maybe he wants to check on her, maybe he wants to reconnect, maybe he wants to greet her new friend, maybe he even wants to apologize in some way, but with this timing none of that really makes any sense outside of a kind of patronizing but insecure need to emphasize that he's the centre of the family universe. I mean, about the BEST possibility is something like "I want to give my endorsement to whatever you're doing and be supportive--and obviously you NEED my endorsement before you do anything, so it's OK for me to interrupt whatever you're doing in order to give it." And it gets worse from there.

Admittedly, not even Hanayo initially planned to have Yoshiko over after their date, so his timing would not have been that bad based on what he knew. And it is her birthday, so it does make sense to try to still visit her on the actual day after his original plans fell through. Nothing to do with Yoshiko whatsoever - although things may well change once he meets her, I do agree with you both on the direction his foot is likely to take.

Hmm, I hope the “I don’t have much time” is just a general hectic life need-to-accomplish-something kind of thing and not some terminal illness kinda thing.

I think it's just her being realistic about their age. Just a general feeling when you're about 69.

Also I hope her son isn't about to be annoying. I'm trying to be fair but his first impression is very childish and whiny and I'm hoping "controlling," doesn't also get added.

They are Japanese women though, can we just farm that stereotype and have them have another 30 years of happiness together?

I mean, about the BEST possibility is something like "I want to give my endorsement to whatever you're doing and be supportive--and obviously you NEED my endorsement before you do anything, so it's OK for me to interrupt whatever you're doing in order to give it." And it gets worse from there.

Do you think the implication is that the son is the one sitting at the bar in https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/hanamonogatari_ch09#13? It could be just setting up the dialog about how this is the sort of place that her husband used to come to, but that feels kind of weak. I think it's more likely to be a bridge between the son's tantrum during the pre-date and showing up unannounced during the aprés-date.

Whew I do not like her son. Definitely hate her dead husband. Her son is unappreciative towards her mom and to the point of regularly underestimating her casually. The daughter in law seems to be a good one and the grandchildren are also good. I wish they put him in place more often. Come to think of it, her dead husband was twelve years older than her and told her to become full time housewife when she was still just starting to work. Her life had been about other people and never about herself till recently. Let her live her life and enjoy things, please.

At least the son has time to improve still, so I view that as a positive. My dad once told me about a close friend of his from when he lived somewhere else, this friend came out as gay later in life and his children (adults) hated their dad, to the point of being shitty towards their dad even during his funeral ceremony. I don't know all of the specifics but I do know what my dad told me made me feel awful, and this story made me think of that. I hope in this manga that things end better.

At least the son has time to improve still, so I view that as a positive. My dad once told me about a close friend of his from when he lived somewhere else, this friend came out as gay later in life and his children (adults) hated their dad, to the point of being shitty towards their dad even during his funeral ceremony. I don't know all of the specifics but I do know what my dad told me made me feel awful, and this story made me think of that. I hope in this manga that things end better.

Luckily for Hanayo, Keita's problems is quite different from this. It's not like he's ever hated her, he wouldn't be here visiting her for her birthday if that were the case. It's just that his view of her has been thoroughly poisoned by how his father was always treating her, this is all he's seen of her for his entire life. So just like Hanayo is finally starting to change and live for herself, he too finally has to see her for who she really is beyond the mere shadow she had been reduced to by her husband.