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joined Jun 21, 2021

Woah. C'mon Alice, don't start making things personal between you and the robed woman.

... or I'll start wishing for her to be your enemies-to-lover partner.

Hey, don’t give me ideas! Tho I can’t imagine a relationship between the two being healthy tbh…

Sometimes that's the spice that makes life delicious :D

The_argent_god_100px_avatar
joined Jul 28, 2019

Y'all keep saying it's the boob grab. OBVIOUSLY it was the bite that set it off. The visceral emotion in that moment of action.

I'mma claim my jar of cookies, thank you very much!

Gay%20panic
joined Sep 11, 2020

... well she can't know for sure if miasma wasn't something of a catalyst, can she? :P

I mean, there's no miasma around is there? And it doesn't look like she's NOT feelin' the same way.

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joined Jan 17, 2021

Well well well...

joined Jan 21, 2020

Im honestly a big fan of how this artist draws intimate moments, was the case in Love letter for a marching puppy and moreso now with the more explicit stuff. Very much looking forward to more

Icon_tinyrain
joined Jan 30, 2017

The not-so-helpless saint and the down-bad princess.

Kuroko-railgun
joined Jul 21, 2024

I just noticed the age gap tag, how did I miss that? ╮ (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.) ╭ I can't even remember how big their age difference was. That's such a cute detail!

They have an 8 year gap~

Ah I see, Thank you for sharing this ^_^

bitchesbebroke
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joined Feb 27, 2020

i love this sm ugh omg

joined Apr 2, 2023

This is apparently up for a Next Manga Award 2025 under the comics category.
https://tsugimanga.jp/nominate/comics

It's not hard to vote and you can pick and rank three titles. There looks to be 4-5 GL works available for the category and this was my #1. July 7 is the voting cutoff date. Most past winners have ended up with an anime down the road and winning or even ranking high seems to get some level of clout in Japan.

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joined Oct 20, 2017

... well she can't know for sure if miasma wasn't something of a catalyst, can she? :P

I mean, there's no miasma around is there? And it doesn't look like she's NOT feelin' the same way.

The fact that Luliam remembers everything and was not straight up controlled by the miasma doesn't mean that the miasma did not affect her judgment at all. She complained about her head being fuzzy before they started the purification, and I find it hard to believe that she was lying about that. The miasma may have had an inhibition-dampening effect similar to alcohol.

ah yes, the "voluptuous" build that's still pretty thin.

"Y'all got any voluptuous builds?"

"We got thin with slightly bigger boobs."

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Pout2
joined Mar 7, 2017

Ya know, I totally forgot about the other saint.

Couple_under_the_stars
joined Nov 7, 2022

"All of you are forgetting the most important part."
Ha, yes, consent.
"... the autore fruit."
Dang, almost had it.

I need more of the second pair ! Which hopefully we'll get in the coming chapter. It seems the second princess, under her cold exterior, actually cares for her partner. And Tsubasa is getting a bit more used to her life in that world. But... unlike our protagonists, I'm not sure if there are any romantic feelings there.

joined Jan 21, 2020

Woah im pleasently surprised that they actually adressed there only being women in this world, thats pretty rare. Also i guess that means same sex pregnancy is an easy thing here ?

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joined Mar 9, 2024

Ha, yes, consent.

Honestly even though I like this story in general, I'm very pissed off by the constant lack of consent in this story. Like these two isekai'd girls just got dragged to this world and their summoner simply "decided" they need to carry out their duty properly before they can ever return (I'm sorry who tf are you?). And Eldora (the second princess, god I hate her SO much) also repeatedly decides things on her own, ignoring and belittling her Saint's will, even (and especially) on things like marriage. WTF? Does marriage means differently in that world? What do you mean by "I just unilateral decided that we're getting married"? I've only saw this kind of "marriage" in situations when one of them is bought from a human trafficker.

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X2(edited)2
joined Jan 2, 2022

Daichii is soooooo cute. I love when the people sent to the other world care about each other and bond over being outsiders. It's too bad the eyepatch isn't permanent, she was workin it.

X2(edited)2
joined Jan 2, 2022

Ha, yes, consent.

Honestly even though I like this story in general, I'm very pissed off by the constant lack of consent in this story. Like these two isekai'd girls just got dragged to this world and their summoner simply "decided" they need to carry out their duty properly before they can ever return (I'm sorry who tf are you?). And Eldora (the second princess, god I hate her SO much) also repeatedly decides things on her own, ignoring and belittling her Saint's will, even (and especially) on things like marriage. WTF? Does marriage means differently in that world? What do you mean by "I just unilateral decided that we're getting married"? I've only saw this kind of "marriage" in situations when one of them is bought from a human trafficker.

I think based on the fact that Saints get sent back sometimes but always get married for good luck or whatever (you can check chapter 1), I think this is being treated as a political marriage by the locals. So I don't think they'll expect Daichi and Eldora to consummate their marriage, it'll be just a thing for the populace and for becoming heir. Which will be unlike our main pair who are doing their best not to tear each others clothes off right now.

Subaru
joined Jul 31, 2019

It seems the second princess, under her cold exterior, actually cares for her partner.

Does she? She's her ticket to becoming a queen, of course she is upset she's not resting :P I wouldn't read too much into that.

The immaculate
joined Mar 19, 2020

"All of you are forgetting the most important part."
Ha, yes, consent.
"... the autore fruit."
Dang, almost had it.

I need more of the second pair ! Which hopefully we'll get in the coming chapter. It seems the second princess, under her cold exterior, actually cares for her partner. And Tsubasa is getting a bit more used to her life in that world. But... unlike our protagonists, I'm not sure if there are any romantic feelings there.

hmm giving the flash to the second princess' reaction and tsubasa's reaction immediately after id say theres some feelings developing

X2(edited)2
joined Jan 2, 2022

It seems the second princess, under her cold exterior, actually cares for her partner.

Does she? She's her ticket to becoming a queen, of course she is upset she's not resting :P I wouldn't read too much into that.

She's a tsundere. I think there's a strong implication she wants to become queen to protect her sister.

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joined Aug 14, 2020

Daichi raising the BIG questions

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joined Apr 6, 2017

They actually addressed the no men thing. I honestly thought it would be pushed under the rug and completely ignored or acted that they are always off screen. Instead the characters stated it themself and een the question about kids.

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joined Jun 6, 2020

Oh that's some world building starting to occur.

Honestly even though I like this story in general, I'm very pissed off by the constant lack of consent in this story. Like these two isekai'd girls just got dragged to this world and their summoner simply "decided" they need to carry out their duty properly before they can ever return (I'm sorry who tf are you?). And Eldora (the second princess, god I hate her SO much) also repeatedly decides things on her own, ignoring and belittling her Saint's will, even (and especially) on things like marriage. WTF? Does marriage means differently in that world? What do you mean by "I just unilateral decided that we're getting married"? I've only saw this kind of "marriage" in situations when one of them is bought from a human trafficker.

also welcome to marriages before WW2 lol. The idea you married for love is an extremely modern phenomena

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X2(edited)2
joined Jan 2, 2022

Oh that's some world building starting to occur.

Honestly even though I like this story in general, I'm very pissed off by the constant lack of consent in this story. Like these two isekai'd girls just got dragged to this world and their summoner simply "decided" they need to carry out their duty properly before they can ever return (I'm sorry who tf are you?). And Eldora (the second princess, god I hate her SO much) also repeatedly decides things on her own, ignoring and belittling her Saint's will, even (and especially) on things like marriage. WTF? Does marriage means differently in that world? What do you mean by "I just unilateral decided that we're getting married"? I've only saw this kind of "marriage" in situations when one of them is bought from a human trafficker.

also welcome to marriages before WW2 lol. The idea you married for love is an extremely modern phenomena

No, it's not, unless you mean among the upper classes, but even then, it's wildly before WW2. I think this is a pretty good reddit thread that goes over it, but marriage for love happened quite a lot in the Middle Ages, even if it wasn't the only consideration.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/eonvkw/how_common_was_marrying_for_love_amongst_the/

And if we're talking specifically Japan, again here they talk about the difference between nobility/samurai/warrior and the commoners, where commoners were much more likely to marry for love.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/hvmlhl/what_was_the_process_of_courtship_and_marriage/

Subaru
joined Jul 31, 2019

It seems the second princess, under her cold exterior, actually cares for her partner.

Does she? She's her ticket to becoming a queen, of course she is upset she's not resting :P I wouldn't read too much into that.

She's a tsundere. I think there's a strong implication she wants to become queen to protect her sister.

I didn't get that impression so far, but maybe, it's been like a ton of chapters since we last saw her. I think it would be more interesting anyway if she's just sort of an asshole and there isn't much more to it :P

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joined Mar 9, 2024

Honestly even though I like this story in general, I'm very pissed off by the constant lack of consent in this story. Like these two isekai'd girls just got dragged to this world and their summoner simply "decided" they need to carry out their duty properly before they can ever return (I'm sorry who tf are you?). And Eldora (the second princess, god I hate her SO much) also repeatedly decides things on her own, ignoring and belittling her Saint's will, even (and especially) on things like marriage. WTF? Does marriage means differently in that world? What do you mean by "I just unilateral decided that we're getting married"? I've only saw this kind of "marriage" in situations when one of them is bought from a human trafficker.

also welcome to marriages before WW2 lol. The idea you married for love is an extremely modern phenomena

Even if not counting the "marriage for love" part, Eldora is just constantly stringing her Saint along, without a shred of concern of her will, while belittling other people that's not a part of the royal family or gov officer. Like in chapter 1 page 31, "I'd choose the one who's definitely a Saint" and "prove that thing is really a Saint...", yeah no, she's not picking her working partner, she's shopping in a mall, picking the best performance commodity.

I know the author probably intend to shape her as a "tsundere" but all I can see is an arrogant brat that doesn't treat other people as basic human beings at all. I don't know if it's the result of being the only heir in the royal family that can cast magic spell, but her arrogance knows no bond and disgusts me.

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