The survey 5 years ago had the peak ages between 18 (or "18") and 26. OTOH I think it was done on Discord, which might skew younger than the forum.

https://dynasty-scans.com/forum/topics/15346-dynasty-specific-demographic-survey

That would also age everyone that answered the survey and stuck around by 5 years. So that would now put it at 23-31. Though that isn't factoring in all the people that left and new users. So it's a bit hard to say.

This is a song that did not deserve to escape the early 2000s

Probably, but it's remained ever present in some form or another lmao

That would also age everyone that answered the survey and stuck around by 5 years. So that would now put it at 23-31. Though that isn't factoring in all the people that left and new users. So it's a bit hard to say.

Churn is natural. And Dynasty had already been around for at least 9 years (judging by uploads) when the poll happened, obviously lots of people joined since then.

That would also age everyone that answered the survey and stuck around by 5 years. So that would now put it at 23-31. Though that isn't factoring in all the people that left and new users. So it's a bit hard to say.

Churn is natural. And Dynasty had already been around for at least 9 years (judging by uploads) when the poll happened, obviously lots of people joined since then.

Of course. I think a good amount of accounts engaging in discussion now are from 2020+

Anyhow though, we should probably switch focus towards discussing the manga again lol

I do hope we'll get a chapter set in the actual church at some point. We've seen a lot of culture shock shenanigans with Rachel encountering the witchcraft of the future, but it would be really interesting to see Ema (who I'm gonna go ahead and guess probably isn't a Catholic, based on statistics) try to blend in during 14th century mass.

It seems she's been going regularly since before Rachel showed up. Which is probably smart because while this village is remarkably tolerant of witches from the future, I think being a heathen witch from the future would be pushing her luck.

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Love it so far~ slice of life in the Middle Ages ~ with yuri bonus

This manga feels so warm. I hope it gets an official English release sometime so I can buy copies for my friends

This manga feels so warm. I hope it gets an official English release sometime so I can buy copies for my friends

I think it feels so warm because of that massive kiln

Bread tag, my beloved.

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Yummy bread.

This manga just makes me smile I love it

Only read up to chapter two at this point, but I have to say that I'm surprised by the level of research here. It's remarkably accurate. The afterword of chapter one is more or less correct in saying that people treasured cleanliness. Most of the prejudice today comes from slanderous clerical texts (regarding peasants), although germ theory wasn't solidified yet (though there was some understanding of correct protective measures,) and as was glossed over in the after-notes, bloodletting and treatments for scabies, leprosy and the like did occur in bathhouses. By modern standards, that's fairly unhygienic.

Tellingly, while the after-note for clothing in chapter two is correct (though the kirtle was actually less close fitting in the 14th century, that's a 15th century development,) the clothing Rachel is wearing throughout the chapter is anachronistic, and closer to 17th century clothing. The idea of front lacing as in a bodice didn't occur until centuries later, and it's highly unlikely that they'd cut off beneath the breast as in Rachel's garb (because the purpose of the lacing was supportive). (Also the neckline is a bit low-cut.) Given that every other character is dressed normally, it's clearly for titillation.

Nice way to expose your tastes author.

Mmm bread

Only read up to chapter two at this point, but I have to say that I'm surprised by the level of research here. It's remarkably accurate. The afterword of chapter one is more or less correct in saying that people treasured cleanliness. Most of the prejudice today comes from slanderous clerical texts (regarding peasants), although germ theory wasn't solidified yet (though there was some understanding of correct protective measures,) and as was glossed over in the after-notes, bloodletting and treatments for scabies, leprosy and the like did occur in bathhouses. By modern standards, that's fairly unhygienic.

Tellingly, while the after-note for clothing in chapter two is correct (though the kirtle was actually less close fitting in the 14th century, that's a 15th century development,) the clothing Rachel is wearing throughout the chapter is anachronistic, and closer to 17th century clothing. The idea of front lacing as in a bodice didn't occur until centuries later, and it's highly unlikely that they'd cut off beneath the breast as in Rachel's garb (because the purpose of the lacing was supportive). (Also the neckline is a bit low-cut.) Given that every other character is dressed normally, it's clearly for titillation.

Nice way to expose your tastes author.

Appreciate the insight! I figured as much about her clothing but in the manga realm, it's still tame.

although germ theory wasn't solidified yet

Germ theory wasn't even considered for centuries more. We're in the time of "four humours" and miasma. And apparently some idea of boiling water before drinking it, I'm not sure why.

Speaking of germ theory, I was surprised to see the reference to hand washing in the chapter, since as far as I'm aware that's also centuries into the future. They might rinse their hands to remove obvious dirt but using soap is far off as far as I know. Typically proper handwashing is credited as a 19th century invention, and looking it up just now I learned that at least in America it wasn't until the 1980s that it started to get promoted to the general public as important, rather than primarily being for doctors and such. Which is rather dismaying lol. I guess this helps explain why as recently as the 2000s I've heard American men insist they don't need to use soap after peeing.

Anyway that sure was a hell of a lot of bread Rachel made all by herself. Could 3-4 cartloads of bread be feasibly made in one day by one person using these intense practices? Should we assume she's got some apprentices of her own just off camera, maybe?

Come for the promise of yuri, stay for the medieval grain facts and really sweet emotional moments.
This manga is a delight

As a German, I've never felt so insulted in my life as while reading this chapter, and there's a lot I get to hear about my home country. Finally I understand why people waste time on stuff like "sensitivity reading" ...

The idea that a German baker would be impressed be the flavorless sawdust pressed into vague bread shapes over freshly baked(!) real bread defies any reasonable belief. It's like suggestion to an Italian that frozen pizza is just as good, or to a French that processed cheese is perfectly acceptable, or to an American that ... well, forget Americans, they are hopeless, but otherwise!

(also how on earth is she slicing bread? Well, I'll not pretend I'm infinitely knowledgeable about how people do it; but I've never seen anyone cut a bread horizontally into some sort of pizza-shaped thing ^^; )

(also southern Germany - at least in parts - had notoriously bad soil. At the very least it's not particularly rich soil. That's why you get these sorta frugal-simple meals/lifestyles ^^)

I've never had a red bean bun but I'd imagine they don't taste like flavorless sawdust lol

NOOOOOO!!!!! Carbs are the ENEMYYYYY!!!!

Pyoro posted:

As a German, I've never felt so insulted in my life as while reading this chapter, and there's a lot I get to hear about my home country. Finally I understand why people waste time on stuff like "sensitivity reading" ...

The idea that a German baker would be impressed be the flavorless sawdust pressed into vague bread shapes over freshly baked(!) real bread defies any reasonable belief. It's like suggestion to an Italian that frozen pizza is just as good, or to a French that processed cheese is perfectly acceptable, or to an American that ... well, forget Americans, they are hopeless, but otherwise!

(also how on earth is she slicing bread? Well, I'll not pretend I'm infinitely knowledgeable about how people do it; but I've never seen anyone cut a bread horizontally into some sort of pizza-shaped thing ^^; )

(also southern Germany - at least in parts - had notoriously bad soil. At the very least it's not particularly rich soil. That's why you get these sorta frugal-simple meals/lifestyles ^^)

I mostly agree that pitting actual artisanal bread against store bought confections was ... an interesting choice, I could also see someone from the past being temporarily mistaken about the quality. A lot of things we take for granted, some of which aren't even good, would have been viewed very differently back then.

The manga specifically mentions the texture, which makes sense, because achieving a relatively consistent and fluffy texture would have been difficult if you're dealing with poorly refined flower, questionable yeast, and inconsistent tools. The other big thing would be the sugar content, especially with the sort of desert breads she was offering. I'm pretty sure that much sugar would have been very expensive for a lot of history and people often like sweet things, so it could be a quick and dirty way of making something appear better than it is, even if we'd recognize it as a sign of low quality now.

Lovely. ^_^

As a German I shed a tear of joy for seeing proper Roggenbrot in a manga!

The idea that a German baker would be impressed be the flavorless sawdust pressed into vague bread shapes over freshly baked(!) real bread defies any reasonable belief. It's like suggestion to an Italian that frozen pizza is just as good, or to a French that processed cheese is perfectly acceptable, or to an American that ... well, forget Americans, they are hopeless, but otherwise!

A MODERN German baker, yes. But a baker from the late middle ages? They would absolutely be amazed about the flavors and taste. While the diet of peasants in the middle ages could be quite varied and good (really depended on era and region) it was not even coming close to what choices we have today.

I love how serious Germans are about bread.

It's normally the French stereotyped as serious about bread so this is indeed a fascinating conversation lol

Wait, where was the hand washing?

As for the bread competition, I thought that was sufficiently explained. At the time, whole grain bread was ordinary, fluffy white bread was an expensive delicacy. Plausible that even modern factory bread would still impres someone who associates white bread with wealth, plus she was getting plied with "extras" too (red bean past, melon, curry...)