Forum › Stretch discussion

1590005349325
joined Apr 6, 2013

Cute, Keiko misses her little Ran-Ran

I always wondered what a Yuri would be like if they dragged it out and implied stuff like a mofo, like in my RomCom shows. I now know it to be a very bittersweet feeling.

Screenshot_7
joined Aug 22, 2014

How is it that a loli hentai artist has crafted two of the greatest pieces of art humanity has ever known?

He's an alien!

Kumirei%20(2)
joined Jun 6, 2014

I suppose it's just my knee jerk reaction that porn* is a lesser form of storytelling, regardless of contents. Not actually true, it's a society thing, I think, telling me that porn can't be good. That was the idea with original statement, anyway.

*And therefore being associated with porn makes one a lesser artist.

It depends what your definition of porn is. If it's anything depicting human nudity that is meant to arouse a sexual, or even sensual reaction, then porn is not necessarily a bad thing, or even bad art. Shoot, if that's the definition, then half the stuff Michelangelo did would be considered porn. But I see it as more what we come to know it as growing up today...as the objectification and sexualization of people for one's own sexual pleasure. If that's the definition then yes, porn is a lesser form of storytelling. Shoot it'd be a compliment to even call it a story of any kind.

And by that regard, vanilla is not necessarily porn (although it certainly can be, it just usually isn't). I don't know what Shou's loli stuff is, but I'd be surprised if none if it is vanilla. I mean he probably has cranked out a lolicon porn doujin or two, or few, because that stuff sells well unfortunately.

I dunno it just sounds so bitter going by the first definition. Because then something like this is in the same category as this.

10930931_1572484072967796_9102248557687339195_n
joined Jan 4, 2014

Aw, new update!
I think Keiko was afraid of Ran )))

Sj2
joined Nov 23, 2014

I think Keiko was afraid of Ran

Damn right she is. If Ran sees all the mess she left lying around, her butt is gonna get a beating.

Kitsune Spirit
Kokkurisanicon
joined Apr 8, 2013

Well if that just didnt scream yuri... lol

Nezchan Moderator
Meiling%20bun%20150px
joined Jun 28, 2012

I think Keiko was afraid of Ran

Damn right she is. If Ran sees all the mess she left lying around, her butt is gonna get a beating.

More to the point, if Ran caught her eating forbidden junk food.

Tmp_bh7jrkjcyaakw52-1123006053
joined Apr 15, 2011

I think Keiko was afraid of Ran

Damn right she is. If Ran sees all the mess she left lying around, her butt is gonna get a beating.

More to the point, if Ran caught her eating forbidden junk food.

i can imagine Keiko and Ran having a special "kick Keiko's butt into shape" workout session :-)

Dark_Tzitzimine
67763073_p3
joined Dec 18, 2013

I didn't understand this chapter :P

Kjraze
joined Mar 3, 2014

Good news.

Volume 3 has appeared on Amazon, its release date is May 12, 2015 and will have 136 pages.

Could someone link me? I'm having a lot of trouble finding it on Amazon :(

OrangePekoe Admin
Animesher.com_tamako-market-midori-tokiwa-deviantart-950416a
joined Mar 20, 2013

Maaaaan. Have to feel strongly that "Oh no" has a double meaning. The first might be obvious, the other is revealed by a hint of pink in the previous panel....

Could someone link me? I'm having a lot of trouble finding it on Amazon :(

Here

Femshep%20x%20liara%20avatar
joined Dec 8, 2013

Maaaaan. Have to feel strongly that "Oh no" has a double meaning. The first might be obvious, the other is revealed by a hint of pink in the previous panel....

she got the menstruals

Hino-san
joined Sep 4, 2014

Bad news

Guys, I regret to inform that Chapter 33 has been postponed until April 2, for reasons of work in the third volume.

Below the explanation about the delay, I would like someone to translate it because I did not understand very well the last part of the message:

●編集部コメント
ストレッチの33話ですが、
作者単行本作業のため
ひと月更新日をずらさせて頂きました。

楽しみにしていた皆さま、本当に申し訳ありません。

単行本第3集は5月12日頃の発売です。
1集に引き続き、描き下ろし4C漫画もありますので
ぜひともお買い求めください!!

"Editorial division's comment:
Stretch 33 has been delayed for a month due to work on the new tankobon.

For everyone who has been enjoying the manga, apologies.

Stretch 3 will be on sale 5/12. Continuing our practice from volume 1, special 4-koma(?) manga are included so please check it out!!"

F4x-3lwx0aa0tcu31
joined Apr 20, 2013

It kinds of makes me mad that indifferent act Keiko is trying so hard to pull off... WHEN THINGS ARE SO OBVIOUS!! let it happen D:

Glasses
joined Feb 21, 2015

I just started reading this manga but am I the only one trying some of the stretches as I read? XD The stretches here felt nice

Akashic Records
Gray.garden.full.1907943.160.213
joined Sep 24, 2013

I just started reading this manga but am I the only one trying some of the stretches as I read? XD The stretches here felt nice

Half way.. only a few of the first single digit chapter actually....

ChocolateCakeLover
Gigi7
joined Feb 4, 2015

I suppose it's just my knee jerk reaction that porn* is a lesser form of storytelling, regardless of contents. Not actually true, it's a society thing, I think, telling me that porn can't be good. That was the idea with original statement, anyway.

*And therefore being associated with porn makes one a lesser artist.

It depends what your definition of porn is. If it's anything depicting human nudity that is meant to arouse a sexual, or even sensual reaction, then porn is not necessarily a bad thing, or even bad art. Shoot, if that's the definition, then half the stuff Michelangelo did would be considered porn. But I see it as more what we come to know it as growing up today...as the objectification and sexualization of people for one's own sexual pleasure. If that's the definition then yes, porn is a lesser form of storytelling. Shoot it'd be a compliment to even call it a story of any kind.

And by that regard, vanilla is not necessarily porn (although it certainly can be, it just usually isn't). I don't know what Shou's loli stuff is, but I'd be surprised if none if it is vanilla. I mean he probably has cranked out a lolicon porn doujin or two, or few, because that stuff sells well unfortunately.

I dunno it just sounds so bitter going by the first definition. Because then something like this is in the same category as this.

Well I prefer broader uses of words, which is why I don't like that I associate porn with lesser storytelling.

Kumirei%20(2)
joined Jun 6, 2014

Maaaaan. Have to feel strongly that "Oh no" has a double meaning. The first might be obvious, the other is revealed by a hint of pink in the previous panel....

Hmm. I saw the last couple pages as more of a sign of the fact Ran brought light into Keiko's world...didn't notice that the first time 'round.

2_copy
joined Jan 27, 2015

Maaaaan. Have to feel strongly that "Oh no" has a double meaning. The first might be obvious, the other is revealed by a hint of pink in the previous panel....

Hmm. I saw the last couple pages as more of a sign of the fact Ran brought light into Keiko's world...didn't notice that the first time 'round.

Please stop teasing, I have no idea what connection you guys are making here haha

Billportrait
joined Jan 17, 2014

Maaaaan. Have to feel strongly that "Oh no" has a double meaning. The first might be obvious, the other is revealed by a hint of pink in the previous panel....

Hmm. I saw the last couple pages as more of a sign of the fact Ran brought light into Keiko's world...didn't notice that the first time 'round.

Please stop teasing, I have no idea what connection you guys are making here haha

Basically anything that could hint to Keikos despair is treated like dynamite, sooooo... concealing her eyes in complete shrouded black with Ran going ''Oh no!'' is maybe not the best choice if you are going for something more on a positive
note

joined Oct 12, 2013

And by that regard, vanilla is not necessarily porn (although it certainly can be, it just usually isn't). I don't know what Shou's loli stuff is, but I'd be surprised if none if it is vanilla. I mean he probably has cranked out a lolicon porn doujin or two, or few, because that stuff sells well unfortunately.

A few? Try four entire tanks. His yuri is the exception, rather than the rule. But he clearly enjoys drawing it as well, or he wouldn't put so much care into it. tracing aside I think it's a little disingenuous to say that he's being forced into drawing loli. The only thing that freaks me out is how precocious the kids in it always are. It's particularly creepy.

Pain
joined Jun 4, 2013

But he clearly enjoys drawing it as well, or he wouldn't put so much care into it.

I'm not going to say you're wrong about Shou, because it's possible he does enjoy drawing loli. However, I do feel your logic's off.

Someone putting care and effort into something doesn't necessarily mean they enjoy it. Perhaps they're proud of their work and anything less than their very best in any artistic endeavor contradicts their self-integrity. Or perhaps they do it because they find a strong causal relationship between effort and reward. High quality work is a basic fundamental unique selling proposition.

These are artists we're talking about here.

Also, it's easy to apply this logic to something rudimentary and see its flaws: I do dishes carefully. Do I enjoy it? No, but there are obvious benefits in doing them carefully.

I understand there's cognitive dissonance at play here: people see Shou as a creep and that means he can't possibly do work people like us would enjoy. He's doing work we enjoy. There seems to be that paradox.

It shouldn't be that hard to resolve.

last edited at Mar 26, 2015 10:40PM

Z%20ss
joined Oct 15, 2013

Are these the colored extras ppl were talking about a few pages ago? If so, cool to have em here.

joined Oct 12, 2013

But he clearly enjoys drawing it as well, or he wouldn't put so much care into it.

I'm not going to say you're wrong about Shou, because it's possible he does enjoy drawing loli. However, I do feel your logic's off.

Someone putting care and effort into something doesn't necessarily mean they enjoy it. Perhaps they're proud of their work and anything less than their very best in any artistic endeavor contradicts their self-integrity. Or perhaps they do it because they find a strong causal relationship between effort and reward. High quality work is a basic fundamental unique selling proposition.

These are artists we're talking about here.

Also, it's easy to apply this logic to something rudimentary and see its flaws: I do dishes carefully. Do I enjoy it? No, but there are obvious benefits in doing them carefully.

I understand there's cognitive dissonance at play here: people see Shou as a creep and that means he can't possibly do work people like us would enjoy. He's doing work we enjoy. There seems to be that paradox.

It shouldn't be that hard to resolve.

I feel like if he didn't enjoy it to some degree he wouldn't have drawn 4 books of it to the exclusion of all else. Bar Prism and now Stretch.

Z%20ss
joined Oct 15, 2013

I dunno it just sounds so bitter going by the first definition. Because then something like this is in the same category as this.

On the talk about porn and how ppl judge it as bad or lesser stories... Just to add a bit more to the examples.

Ppl like to call out porn on things that are of the... "raunchy nature" or "just sex" like this one by Kasumi, which is basically that, just sex,

Compare to this one by Cloud Palette. Or this other one by Ichinose.

Only difference is how it's presented, the tone and use of art (by art I mean giving bodies a glossy oily look with shading as well as bringing out more details, etc.) are vastly different, not the story nor writing... As you can see, none of my examples actually give you much of a story, just a setting.You can easily swap the "stories" of these and make it what ppl would call "this is just porn" what they would've called otherwise "this is beautiful". It's all in that: tone and use of art...

Well, that got a bit off-topic... heh

last edited at Mar 26, 2015 10:58PM

To reply you must either login or sign up.