Obviously Seo planned all this before the prez came after her. She might have had plans to prevent the explosion if he backed down, but honestly, probably not. She probably made a mild attempt to turn over a new leaf, but gave up some time ago and this was just validation of something she was already convinced of.

About her going all the way to mass murder, though. Normally I'm fine with detectives encountering death everywhere they go because "it's just that kind of story", but the president found it unnatural, so I guess it's not. Similarly, this could just be "the kind of story" where every other character is insane, but is it though? Should I find that unnatural? Not knowing how far I should stretch my suspension of disbelief can hurt a mystery manga.

But anyway, none of this really bothers me much because I'm way too invested in Satsuki and her turning point to mind.

Why this is yuri if it's not yuri

Satsuki acts pretty gay sometimes. But that definitely isn't a driving force at the moment

Akira acts pretty gay sometimes too plus the crazy lesbian that died

Why this is yuri if it's not yuri

Satsuki acts pretty gay sometimes. But that definitely isn't a driving force at the moment

Didn't the author state they are not into yuri?

They said they don't really have an opinion on it either way but that they think yuri mangaka do a really good job/really admire yuri mangaka.

That plot twist was pretty cheap in my opinion tbh.

I just want to know about Komachi's intentions n leave this manga for good.

Personally I’ve been suspicious of Komacchi for most of the manga, so I don’t think that’s out of nowhere.

That plot twist was pretty cheap in my opinion tbh.

I just want to know about Komachi's intentions n leave this manga for good.

Personally I’ve been suspicious of Komacchi for most of the manga, so I don’t think that’s out of nowhere.

They haven't so much as been foreshadowing or dropping hints as explicitly framing her as a future threat, if this was a tv show there would have been multiple scenes by now of her standing by a window lit from below and smirking evilly while lightning flashes. It's been so obvious that it feels weird to not twist it, because I thought this was supposed to be a mystery series.

I've gotta say, I've really enjoyed Miho's development from a thorn in Satsuki's side to one of her firmest friends

confront Komachi about being a sociopath

unless you mean someone directly saying "hey, you're a crazy, nutty, dangerous bitch. What the actual fuck is your deal?", that's not how that works.

for homework, explain what Komachi's deal is

Well, her chart says she's all fucked up. She talks like a creep, and her shit's all yandered.

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That plot twist was pretty cheap in my opinion tbh.

I just want to know about Komachi's intentions n leave this manga for good.

Personally I’ve been suspicious of Komacchi for most of the manga, so I don’t think that’s out of nowhere.

Nah, not Komachi. Seo being the mass murderer and prez n vice prez being the good guys by killing the greater evil. I mean, why? Prez was a good antagonist with an opposite purpose for the same ability of seeing death. even their backstory gave us a good point to sympathize with them and their way of doing things. It feels forced to have Seo be the reason to give the antagonists a reason to justify them.

Let me add that it would make so much sense if Komachi was the mass murder or the real target n get to the point of saving the wrong people and u know anime girl speach.

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That plot twist was pretty cheap in my opinion tbh.

I just want to know about Komachi's intentions n leave this manga for good.

Personally I’ve been suspicious of Komacchi for most of the manga, so I don’t think that’s out of nowhere.

Nah, not Komachi. Seo being the mass murderer and prez n vice prez being the good guys by killing the greater evil. I mean, why? Prez was a good antagonist with an opposite purpose for the same ability of seeing death. even their backstory gave us a good point to sympathize with them and their way of doing things. It feels forced to have Seo be the reason to give the antagonists a reason to justify them.

Let me add that it would make so much sense if Komachi was the mass murder or the real target n get to the point of saving the wrong people and u know anime girl speach.

The prez was in no way being the good guy. Killing "bad" people (not all of them were) is still bad without making an effort to use the systems that exist. Villains rarely think they are doing wrong and by extension it's the rest of the people who are the evil ones.

The Seo reveal was a bit out there, but also a case of "become the monster you made me" situation. She wasn't a saint by any means, but bullying isn't worthy of death. The constant attempts degraded her mental health to this outcome.

I've gotta say, I've really enjoyed Miho's development from a thorn in Satsuki's side to one of her firmest friends

I wouldn't say she is Satsuki's friend, as she is still way too egotistical to have true friendships (counter-example: Akira), but I agree that she has been slowly developing a certain fondness for Satsuki that goes beyond the simple "I stick with you so you can keep me alive" arrangement they started out with. Miho is also important as a thematic counter-argument to Seo, showing that a former bully can reform her ways, despite unfavorable circumstances. She is not a good person yet, but not a shitty person anymore, either.

Man, this most recent chapter pissed people off. I'm kinda of sad it's causing people to drop the series, but I understand that some of the things in the story are pretty ludicrous, primarily the context surrounding the two actual deaths in the story (lightning and seo's plot). I still love the series overall so I'm going to stick around for the long hall.

That plot twist was pretty cheap in my opinion tbh.

I just want to know about Komachi's intentions n leave this manga for good.

Personally I’ve been suspicious of Komacchi for most of the manga, so I don’t think that’s out of nowhere.

They haven't so much as been foreshadowing or dropping hints as explicitly framing her as a future threat, if this was a tv show there would have been multiple scenes by now of her standing by a window lit from below and smirking evilly while lightning flashes. It's been so obvious that it feels weird to not twist it, because I thought this was supposed to be a mystery series.

It can still be a twist, but just for the main characters and not us. Sometimes that actually works better, like when it was already kind of obvious which Komachi might fall under. It's like how in Invincible, Omni-Man was very obviously evil and always treated as such, but he was still technically a twist villain since the other characters in the show didn't see him coming. It's still risky and the author will need good writing to make it work.

I stopped reading this cause I noticed how bad it was influencing my mood and life in general, the story/possible Yuri was promising but not worth the toll

Dang, I'm sorry to here this happened. I hope you're doing better. For some reason, it didn't occur to me that a story could have that much of an impact on a person.

Relapse is a fitting name. I wonder if the announcement is that somebody got stabbed, because that'd be pretty compelling. Shiina's growth is pretty awesome and she looks so done with it in that last panel, which is justified

Ho, hey vice prez. Thanks for reminding me that the other half of the stupid murderous duo is still around, I'd actually forgotten.

The obvious conclusion is that she's about to announce Minazuki killed the prez.

That said, it is so obvious, it is possible the author will subvert it. Vice prez could try to tell them the prez is dead but Minazuki tried her hardest to save him, so she's telling the truth and they should run.

Not sure which of the two ways it will go.

Damn she's pretty hot when she's crazy, Satsuki that is

The obvious conclusion is that she's about to announce Minazuki killed the prez.

That said, it is so obvious, it is possible the author will subvert it. Vice prez could try to tell them the prez is dead but Minazuki tried her hardest to save him, so she's telling the truth and they should run.

Not sure which of the two ways it will go.

It would be cool to see her back up Satsuki and try to save everyone. Even if she's only doing it because she wants to subvert Seo's plans.

Also poor Satsuki, she's had a rough go of it these past few chapters

Komachi is the grim reaper and is pissed she didn't get her death on time, and is basically tormenting her crush/enemy by showing her the butterfly effect of her actions before reversing time and letting Satsuki make the 'right' choice in order to let everyone else live who have died so far. Satsuki will save her again (worst ending is she dies in her place after spending the day helping Akira and co), and there'll be some big, dramatic faceoff where somehow one of their ideologies is forced to stand down.

If I don't get some kind of an ending like that, I'm going to be so pissed because Seo's shit makes absolutely zero sense, and the story is tailspinning into absolute shitsville now.

Wait, where’d the yuri tag go?

Is this like Mute Girl and Her Friend where they backed off on it so hard it doesn’t even get subtext anymore?

Wait, where’d the yuri tag go?

Is this like Mute Girl and Her Friend where they backed off on it so hard it doesn’t even get subtext anymore?

I think it's more a case that the series was mis-tagged to start with. I would say at most it's subtext but I doubt it will go full into yuri because romance just isn't the focus of the manga.

If there will ever be Yuri in this, it'll be whenever they handle Akira's new situation I guess.

But I support untagging it for now, I think that's smart. If it turns out to be Yuri later, it can just be retagged then, no harm done.

Komachi is the grim reaper and is pissed she didn't get her death on time, and is basically tormenting her crush/enemy by showing her the butterfly effect of her actions before reversing time and letting Satsuki make the 'right' choice in order to let everyone else live who have died so far. Satsuki will save her again (worst ending is she dies in her place after spending the day helping Akira and co), and there'll be some big, dramatic faceoff where somehow one of their ideologies is forced to stand down.

If I don't get some kind of an ending like that, I'm going to be so pissed because Seo's shit makes absolutely zero sense, and the story is tailspinning into absolute shitsville now.

Been hoping the author has planned something like this since the beginning but I kinda doubt it

I'd say that Ryouko went too hard on making Seo a psycho to break Satsuki's ideals. I was fine with it when it was just her killing Kai since at that point it actually did seem like she tried to be a better person but wasn't left with any other choice because he kept on trying to kill her despite that. It's not as if Satsuki wouldn't be dealing with the moral dilemma of what if the person you saved went on to kill other people. Her turning the school into a death trap just to spite the one person that believed her is jumping the shark. It feels as if it's trying to say that Kai was right all along with he was just an asshole high on his own farts.

Feels like we traded an interesting antagonist for a boring one.

I'm all for pure evil villains, but they still have to be entertaining to watch. Seo just isn't.