Age of consent is 13 in parts of Japan anyway. So Omichi and Rin only have 4 years to wait, IF they're feeling that way inclined...〜⁠(⁠꒪⁠꒳⁠꒪⁠)⁠〜

Could you please stop with this already. While the age of consent of 13 is """technically""" correct as that is how it's written in the Japanese Penal Code, literally all prefectures adopted ordinances that forbid sexual acts between adults and those under 18.

PLUS just recently they passed a bill to raise the age of consent from 13 to 16 as part of a reform of the Penal Code, so with that it's just flatout wrong, both technically and practically.

The discussion of the Japanese age of consent for sex is especially off-topic since absolutely nothing has been depicted or even suggested in this series that would make that standard relevant.

The word IF is relevant and tongue firmly planted in cheek.

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It's a child. Please, no.

Omichi please stop falling for the literal child.

They're both children, you're overreacting.

When you're an adult, 5 of 10 years of age gap don't matter, but that's not applicable in minors. I wouldn't see with good eyes a couple of a 5 years old and a 10 years old, neither 10 years old and 15 years old. In minors, every year changes a lot and makes a difference of maturity. It's nor right, it's strange. It's obvious that Rin should be a lot less mature, and Omichi more.

I don't really understand why they treat the kid like it is 20 years old in all that conversations. It made me feel uncomfortable.

(Sorry for my poor English)

It's a child. Please, no.

Omichi please stop falling for the literal child.

They're both children, you're overreacting.

When you're an adult, 5 of 10 years of age gap don't matter, but that's not applicable in minors. I wouldn't see with good eyes a couple of a 5 years old and a 10 years old, neither 10 years old and 15 years old. In minors, every year changes a lot and makes a difference of maturity. It's nor right, it's strange. It's obvious that Rin should be a lot less mature, and Omichi more.

I don't really understand why they treat the kid like it is 20 years old in all that conversations. It made me feel uncomfortable.

(Sorry for my poor English)

Please cite a chapter, panel and/or line of dialogue in the actual story that you deem to be morally objectionable.

For that matter, please cite a specific example of when “they treat the kid like it is 20 years old.” (Whoever “they” might be.)

When you're an adult, 5 of 10 years of age gap don't matter, but that's not applicable in minors. I wouldn't see with good eyes a couple of a 5 years old and a 10 years old, neither 10 years old and 15 years old. In minors, every year changes a lot and makes a difference of maturity. It's nor right, it's strange. It's obvious that Rin should be a lot less mature, and Omichi more.

I don't really understand why they treat the kid like it is 20 years old in all that conversations. It made me feel uncomfortable.

(Sorry for my poor English)

None of the children in this story so far are treated as anything more than normal children.
Koguma and Hino are perfectly normal kids with a budding romantic interest in one another and some tints of sexual chemistry developing because they're hitting puberty. This is entirely normal, even commonplace, it's just that a lot of adults don't like acknowledging it to the point of denying that it exists entirely besides in the dreams of pedophiles.
The idea that children don't explore sexuality at all until they hit 18 (or even 13 for that matter) is nothing but a myth, and I would even go so far as to claim that stories which depict childhood but omit this element are essentially soft-censoring the concept of human adolescence by omitting an integral facet of it.

Smol kindergartner developed a crush on Hino because she was nice to her and she's seemingly starved for affection, nothing even remotely unnatural or sketchy about it. Hino decides that, out of respect for the kindergartner's resolve and bravery, she should take the proposition seriously and reject her properly rather than patronize her feelings by calling them "just a crush" even if that's what they are and the kindergartner just doesn't know it.

Literally all the children in this story behave exactly like what they are: children with only a vague understanding of what love and sex is; interacting with each other in funny ways either because hormones are one hell of a drug or because they have feelings they don't understand but are trying to rationalize with what they know.

All perfectly natural, all perfectly realistic, only exaggerated for comedic effect.

last edited at Apr 15, 2023 10:01PM

Still loving this series, not sure I even understand what the translation drama is about so I'll just ignore it I guess...

Looks like 110 and 110.5 are the same.

Edit Looks like 110 got fixed.

last edited at Apr 17, 2023 5:13PM

This series has always tip toed the fine line between just being lolicon shit. But please god, don't pair a teenager with a fuckin 8 year old or whatever.

Happy Sugar Life did it and that series turned out just fine

I had the same thought as the one user who was like "noo omichi don't fall for the actual kid"
But I hardly see reason to worry, I mean, if it were to seriously happen we still have like 120 chapters of before it reaches that point (:

This series has always tip toed the fine line between just being lolicon shit. But please god, don't pair a teenager with a fuckin 8 year old or whatever.

Happy Sugar Life did it and that series turned out just fine

Yep, I heard they lived happily ever after

BoobTwinkler posted:

It's a child. Please, no.

Omichi please stop falling for the literal child.

They're both children, you're overreacting.

No, they're pixels on your monitor.

For a moment we all thought it was real, thank goodness you set us straight.

Set us Straight? Is that what this was all about

Hah, I knew someone could not resist jumping on that word choice.

And I intentionally did it in such a way that it would work even without 'that' association

Sigh... Omichi being all badum around the little girl is uncomfortable. The little girl having a crush on Hino isn't a problem but like, why do we need this side plot? I'm used to lolis in manga by now but seriously if they weren't there my life would be so much better. Same goes for weird sexist tropes in shoujo manga.

Sigh... Omichi being all badum around the little girl is uncomfortable. The little girl having a crush on Hino isn't a problem but like, why do we need this side plot? I'm used to lolis in manga by now but seriously if they weren't there my life would be so much better. Same goes for weird sexist tropes in shoujo manga.

What exactly is the problem? Omichi and Rin aren’t dating. They aren’t having sex. They aren’t a couple. The younger girl’s intelligence and emotional bravery makes Omichi’s heart go doki-doki, and she told her so, full stop. As I’ve said, the chances of things going any further between the two are practically nil.

And why do any stories ever “need” side plots? Usually, to mark time with low-stakes conflicts that reflect back on the MCs situation just like this one does. (Koguma having to consider Hino kissing someone else is an entirely new development.)

last edited at Apr 16, 2023 10:39PM

Sigh... Omichi being all badum around the little girl is uncomfortable. The little girl having a crush on Hino isn't a problem but like, why do we need this side plot? I'm used to lolis in manga by now but seriously if they weren't there my life would be so much better. Same goes for weird sexist tropes in shoujo manga.

What exactly is the problem? Omichi and Rin aren’t dating. They aren’t having sex. They aren’t a couple. The younger girl’s intelligence and emotional bravery makes Omichi’s heart go doki-doki, and she told her so, full stop. As I’ve said, the chances of things going any further between the two are practically nil.

And why do any stories ever “need” side plots? Usually, to mark time with low-stakes conflicts that reflect back on the MCs situation just like this one does. (Koguma having to consider Hino kissing someone else is an entirely new development.)

Yo, you're mixing in spoiler content that hasn't quite yet arrived here.
Omichii hasn't told Rin yet, I don't think Koguma having to consider Hino kissing someone else has happened here yet either.

Also Ch. 128 has me like How is Kinniku Tarou going to get out of this one without it actually happening? Because we all know Kinniku Tarou is going to get out of this one without it actually happening.

last edited at Apr 16, 2023 9:08PM

Hope Kogu goes commando next time when Hino wants a flash.

do people forget that this is one of those fetish pleasing manga or am i the one out of the loop here?? this is essentially the Yuri version of nagatoro. its a stretch limo where the authors weird fetishes get shotgun while any actual romance takes a back seat. and its been this way since chapter 1. i wont quote it bc its long but there's a comment on this page about how they are just normal kids acting like normal kids? and im honestly not sure if its meant to be sarcastic or just severely out of touch lol

do people forget that this is one of those fetish pleasing manga or am i the one out of the loop here?? this is essentially the Yuri version of nagatoro. its a stretch limo where the authors weird fetishes get shotgun while any actual romance takes a back seat. and its been this way since chapter 1. i wont quote it bc its long but there's a comment on this page about how they are just normal kids acting like normal kids? and im honestly not sure if its meant to be sarcastic or just severely out of touch lol

Well, in the context of a Japanese comedy manga, where "normal" is pretty ambiguous concept, they arguably haven't actually crossed too many problematic lines. Sure, there's been a boatload of innuendo, double-entendre, and suggestive ideation, and inching up toward red lines and then leaving things hanging. But "fetish-pleasing manga" seems like a massive overstatement in regard to what has actually happened in the story.

Compared to, say, Yuugai Shitei Doukyuusei, which has a very similar basic setup of a diligent class rep trying to keep a rambunctious classmate in line, this is the height of wholesome adolescent experimentation on the cusp of sexual awakening.

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Compared to, say, Yuugai Shitei Doukyuusei, which has a very similar basic setup of a diligent class rep trying to keep a rambunctious classmate in line, this is the height of wholesome adolescent experimentation on the cusp of sexual awakening.

Not exactly setting the bar high there, lol

Yo wtf with these chapters, they're really disgusting. I knew that the author was into this kind of weird stuff but please, control yourself man.

Omichi has a realization. :D

That worked almost as well as the motivation button. Although with some (exciting) drawbacks.

And this is what you get for trying to avoid the real issue, Omichi. Not that she didn't say the truth, mostly... :D

I know Omichii was already kind of a known dummy, but she just got bamboozled and flummoxed by a grade schooler. What a legend (derogatory).

EDIT:

there's a comment on this page about how they are just normal kids acting like normal kids? and im honestly not sure if its meant to be sarcastic or just severely out of touch lol

Well, someone in this thread is out of touch with how kids are, but it's not the person you're referencing. (⁠•⁠ ⁠▽⁠ ⁠•⁠;⁠)

last edited at Apr 17, 2023 11:06AM

I suppose opinions differ on whether this is a moral story, but I will brook no disagreement about it being a visually funny story. Cue the "pedophilia is not funny" crew.

Hino wearing the CPR protector makes me laugh out loud every time.

https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/hino_san_no_baka_ch110_5#6

last edited at Apr 17, 2023 11:30AM

I know this is weird to say in a manga that just had a random body swap arc, but what gets me about Omichii going doki-doki for Rin is the unrealism. Taking them as 14 and 9 years old, that's a huge developmental gap at those ages, and kids are very well aware of the differences between them and littler kids. If you think 18 and 13 would be a big gap, this is way bigger proportionally, especially being on different sides of puberty.

Rin having a crush on Hino is kind of fine (though the way that's expressed in this chapter is uh) but the reverse? (most) kids do not work that way.

I guess I don't really understand why people are in an uproar over interactions between children. I could see why someone might be uneasy if one of these characters happened to be an adult (are adults even shown in this series at all?), but some of the responses I've seen here are either completely blowing things out of proportion or talking about things that haven't even happened yet without using spoiler quotes. I'm not sure which.

I believe it comes down to people's answer to the following: "is it still lolicon if they're both minors?"

After thinking about this for quite a while, even I don't have a concrete answer for this, yes or no. In the majority of cases, I would probably say no, but I can't deny that there are occasions and scenarios where it would be yes. An extremely mature teenager being in love with a small girl would definitely be jarring. But that isn't what we see here; not even close.

If at some point, the author decides to go the route of an actual coupling of a high schooler and elementary schooler, I would understand people's uneasiness. But until that point, there really isn't a purpose to the drive-by morality policing posts.

do people forget that this is one of those fetish pleasing manga or am i the one out of the loop here?? this is essentially the Yuri version of nagatoro. its a stretch limo where the authors weird fetishes get shotgun while any actual romance takes a back seat. and its been this way since chapter 1. i wont quote it bc its long but there's a comment on this page about how they are just normal kids acting like normal kids? and im honestly not sure if its meant to be sarcastic or just severely out of touch lol

Well, in the context of a Japanese comedy manga, where "normal" is pretty ambiguous concept, they arguably haven't actually crossed too many problematic lines. Sure, there's been a boatload of innuendo, double-entendre, and suggestive ideation, and inching up toward red lines and then leaving things hanging. But "fetish-pleasing manga" seems like a massive overstatement in regard to what has actually happened in the story.

Compared to, say, Yuugai Shitei Doukyuusei, which has a very similar basic setup of a diligent class rep trying to keep a rambunctious classmate in line, this is the height of wholesome adolescent experimentation on the cusp of sexual awakening.

True. But I also don’t think a piece of entertainment has to go that far to please a fetish. Nothing wrong with it. I’ve read and enjoyed all of nagatoro and this manga too. But to read something like this and not see it’s blatant exploration of fetish is quite funny, really. It’s obvious. if that isnt the main point of this manga then what is?? i dont see much else going on here. another example of this type of manga is the one about groping boobs with the long ass title lol it’s horny for the sake of being horny and everything else is just background. And that’s ok.

another example of this type of manga is the one about groping boobs with the long ass title lol it’s horny for the sake of being horny and everything else is just background.

You really shouldn't judge a manga you haven't read beyond the first few chapters...

do people forget that this is one of those fetish pleasing manga or am i the one out of the loop here?? this is essentially the Yuri version of nagatoro. its a stretch limo where the authors weird fetishes get shotgun while any actual romance takes a back seat. and its been this way since chapter 1. i wont quote it bc its long but there's a comment on this page about how they are just normal kids acting like normal kids? and im honestly not sure if its meant to be sarcastic or just severely out of touch lol

Well, in the context of a Japanese comedy manga, where "normal" is pretty ambiguous concept, they arguably haven't actually crossed too many problematic lines. Sure, there's been a boatload of innuendo, double-entendre, and suggestive ideation, and inching up toward red lines and then leaving things hanging. But "fetish-pleasing manga" seems like a massive overstatement in regard to what has actually happened in the story.

Compared to, say, Yuugai Shitei Doukyuusei, which has a very similar basic setup of a diligent class rep trying to keep a rambunctious classmate in line, this is the height of wholesome adolescent experimentation on the cusp of sexual awakening.

True. But I also don’t think a piece of entertainment has to go that far to please a fetish. Nothing wrong with it. I’ve read and enjoyed all of nagatoro and this manga too. But to read something like this and not see it’s blatant exploration of fetish is quite funny, really. It’s obvious.

You can keep asserting this until you're blue in the face, and I can keep asserting that you're profoundly delusional about this being simply a "fetish pleasing manga" for just as long. As I mentioned, sure, it's obvious that the author enjoys suggesting far more than they depict and creating expectations for lewdness that they fail to satisfy--that's the basis of much of the humor.

But please do point to some specific panels or sequences that are so "obviously" merely intended as sexual fetish material, either for the author or the audience.