How old are those girls? 16, 17, I'm sure
And those girls are all good girls, not scumbags
Judging their immaturity or inexperience is not wise. Cheating can happen. At any age. Intentionally or unintentionally.
But complexity for cheating here is responsibility of ALL sides involved.
Some may see Nanase as a victim and a saint. Really?

Those girls are learning through experience. And yes, bad experience can give a good result when person achieve emotional and mental maturity and stability. And if reader can learn from manga, it is better than from personal experience. For it, heavy topic are the best, but they are not written for people with triggers.
I'm not sure why people with triggers are discussing topics they hate, like polyamory, ntr, cheating, age gap, etc
Why, oh, why????

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Far out! It's been a while since I read something on here that gives me such pleasure. Fuuko is everything. I'm highly anticipating how this will end though its rare that I like all three characters enough to be happy with either relationship winning out in the finale.

I think that's the recipe for a great story when all characters are likeable unlike certain other manga where some characters piss you off enough to drop it altogether.

This is such an insane take and I am here for it.

Maybe the real treasure was the insane takes we had along the way.

I have not enjoyed a manga in a long time, as much as I enjoyed this.

Fuuko I love you

Real cheater here is Nanase, not Asahina.
She is not capable to find right balance between her club activities, her friends, AND her girlfriend.
I have no sorry for her because she deserves everything what is happening behind her back.
She is greedy and selfish, wanting more than she's capable to manage. That's why I already said she in not ready for a girlfriend.
And she must take the blow, she initiated it.

This is not about moral norms, it's about natural forces, action-reaction, call it karma, however you want.

Everyone here sucks and all but I can't lie, Fuuko is just so fucking hot that I'm rooting for her purely based off of that.

She needs to draw a small arc for both Asahina and Nanase, to explain what their domestic relationship is like. We already know in regards to Fuu.

And Fuuko adds sexual assault to her general stalking and manipulation! Luckily I'm here for the mess. Glad to see this series back, looking forward to continuing to feel gross in a perversely enjoyable way.

Question why people are rooting for Fuuko is very interesting.

She is confident, knows exactly what she wants. She knows when to push when to pool, and how. She is not distasteful in her actions, nor pretender (like Nanase)
She is very measured, intelligent and mature. And has a patience.

She said multiple times that she LOVES Asahina.
It means all stared by finding her venting account by accident, sharing same interest in girls.
At first she follows it without knowing who is behind. From a detail that she knows about 3rd month anniversary (I think so, there is a panel with exact month but I'm not sure)
At least 3 months backwards she was developing her genuine feelings for an unknown girl.
She had a lot of time to see how previously happy girl becomes unhappy.
And after finding out who the girl is, she decides to step in, already tired from falling in love with straight girls. Because she knows Asahina is attracted to girls, and she takes her chance.

It's true, Asahina is already taken, but from her venting account Fuuko sees that relationship is not healthy. So her motives to interfere are not despicable, I can say almost noble, even if she looks like homewrecker if you look from another perspective about "ruining one established couple"
But what if that couple is already "ruined"? (actually going nowhere related only to each other)
And she is just accelerating them to face reality, interfering and fighting for the girl she loves. (I really expect that her feelings are true, not lies)

More than enough reasons to root for Fuuko.

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And Fuuko adds sexual assault to her general stalking and manipulation! Luckily I'm here for the mess. Glad to see this series back, looking forward to continuing to feel gross in a perversely enjoyable way.

I don't agree about sexual assault.
Look every panel and pictures she's taken, and how Yuni-chan looks
Every time Fuuko is teasing her how she is secretly enjoying those ntr actions. Fuuko is excellently reading Yuni, her needs, her desires, her true emotions. And she would never hurt her (hurting as cause of serious damages), look better at psychology of both characters
You would not believe how compatible are Fuuko and Yuni in every aspect.

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And Fuuko adds sexual assault to her general stalking and manipulation! Luckily I'm here for the mess. Glad to see this series back, looking forward to continuing to feel gross in a perversely enjoyable way.

I don't agree about sexual assault.
Look every panel and pictures she's taken, and how Yuni-chan looks
Every time Fuuko is teasing her how she is secretly enjoying those ntr actions. Fuuko is excellently reading Yuni, her needs, her desires, her true emotions. And she would never hurt her (hurting as cause of serious damages), look better at psychology of both characters
You would not believe how compatible are Fuuko and Yuni in every aspect.

So, soul-mates, really. Lol

I don’t necessarily come to manga looking for good people, so this mess is fine with me.

And Fuuko adds sexual assault to her general stalking and manipulation! Luckily I'm here for the mess. Glad to see this series back, looking forward to continuing to feel gross in a perversely enjoyable way.

I don't agree about sexual assault.
Look every panel and pictures she's taken, and how Yuni-chan looks
Every time Fuuko is teasing her how she is secretly enjoying those ntr actions. Fuuko is excellently reading Yuni, her needs, her desires, her true emotions. And she would never hurt her (hurting as cause of serious damages), look better at psychology of both characters
You would not believe how compatible are Fuuko and Yuni in every aspect.

So, soul-mates, really. Lol

I don’t necessarily come to manga looking for good people, so this mess is fine with me.

Well, I suppose we all already know moral norms, I'm not here for preaching what is morally acceptable, this is only my personal opinion observing details in manga

For real sexual assault Yuni should be completely repulsed by any other physical contact with assaulter. I think we will see in future chapters whether there was sexual assault or not. And feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

And feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

You're not wrong.

For real sexual assault Yuni should be completely repulsed by any other physical contact with assaulter. I think we will see in future chapters whether there was sexual assault or not. And feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

"real" sexual assault doesn't work like that. The victim can feel powerless, be blackmailed, feel pressured, and a fuck ton of other reason can lead them to just accepting fate. "she should be repulsed by physical contact" so if a girl gets wet while being harassed that means she wants that? Just because she didn't fought back doesn't mean she is okay with it, don't forget that fuuko has been blackmiling Yuni since the very beggining with the venting acount and the fact that they're lesbians. Yuni wouldn't want that to be exposed since her girlfriend is not ready yet.

edited cus I got a name wrong

I am speaking STRICTLY about different aspects in MANGA, and it is my right as the reader to observe everything from my own perspectives, even many, in many ways.
Don't cross my borders, because you did cut my first part of the quote to rearrange my words.
I am not speaking about real life sexual assaults and I won't discuss it here. It's all written in my previous comment which you did cut in half.
Now, "Real sexual assault" when you cut my whole quote is actually:

-If Yuni truly was assaulted by Fuuko she would feel physically repulsed by her
(and I don't feel repulsion between them, and it's my personal feeling)

So, pass me by and find some other place and person to rage

Get yourself a friend who cares about you the way Yuki cares about Natsume. I find it hilarious how the way she texts fits so well with her personality. Scanlators did a great job capturing that aspect.

re: sexual assault brief discussion: a very important feeling after being sexual assaulted, is self-blame. All sort of psychological and physiological problems will start to show up later or even right off the bat, and this can ruin any present and future relationships.

The closest sexual assault incident was Yuni almost got raped by the two guys, but was saved by Fuuko, yet she does not even appreciate and thanks Fuuko.

Yuni has no obligation to have sex with Fuuko as a way to pay back the travel expense. Fuuko booked a room with two single beds, not a double. Yuni seemed to be doing fine while having sex with Fuuko. Fuuko did not ask for sex directly,
Yuni is dumb, She can easily explain that in order to go support nanase for the match, she did a compensate dating. In that case, it is not quite cheating and it is now in the grey area as prostitution. It sends a clue to Nanase that Yuni is so poor that she is willing to sell her body to get money for travel expenses. Whether she has sex with Fuuko it does not matter, and indeed there is no need to reveal, especially Yuki only see their kissing and obviously not sex. Yuni has absolutely no reason to reveal to anyone whether she has sex with Fuuko or not. No witnesses.
Fuuko wants love more than anything else. Sex is just the icing on the cake.
So yes, team Fuuko is here, and I will not ship anyone: Yuni is beyond help, Nanase is too late and too slow plus too naive.

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Yuni is dumb, She can easily explain that in order to go support nanase for the match, she did a compensate dating. In that case, it is not quite cheating and it is now in the grey area as prostitution.

I don't even see how it's suposs to make it not cheating. She had sex with another girl than the one she is going out with, it's cheating, money or not. I don't understand the logic.

(This post contains spoilers for chapters 6-11)

Yuni has no obligation to have sex with Fuuko as a way to pay back the travel expense. Fuuko booked a room with two single beds, not a double. Yuni seemed to be doing fine while having sex with Fuuko. Fuuko did not ask for sex directly

You even said it yourself. Yuni had sex with Fuuko all on her own will. Fuko never pressured Yuni and even paid for a room with two single beds. It was Yuni out of frustration for Nanase who instigated it with Fuuko and had sex with her behind Nanase's back. So tell me how was she not cheating on Nanase?

Yuni is dumb, She can easily explain that in order to go support nanase for the match, she did a compensate dating. In that case, it is not quite cheating and it is now in the grey area as prostitution.

You could have called Yuni ambiguous when she initially agreed to the compensated dating but after she instigated the sex with Fuuko, there was no mistaking it. Yuni absolutely and mercilessly cheated on Nanase and there is no forgiving her for that act. There is no saving Yuni. She is done. She has made her bed and now she has to lie in it with nobody else to blame but herself

I don't even see how it's suposs to make it not cheating. She had sex with another girl than the one she is going out with, it's cheating, money or not. I don't understand the logic.

I agree with this smart fellow

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Question is why Yuni must compensate ANYTHING if she already has a girlfriend? And why she needs a venting account after all?

I am constantly seeing how she's helplessly trying to reach to Nanase, and Nanase is blocking her over and over.
It's not surprising for me if other ways are opening to Yuni, even morally questionable. Her own gf is blocking access, pushing her away constantly.

I am questioning, is this really a cheating? Because her relationship with Nanase is ZERO, nothing.
If they call themselves a girlfriends, is it enough?

^
She can easily explain that in order to go support nanase for the match, she did a compensate dating. In that case, it is not quite cheating and it is now in the grey area as prostitution.

That is the key here. Both cheating and prostitution elements are here. How you interpret these two words is up to you. For me it is a compromise between cheating and prostitution. Cheating has some elements of love in it, plus you know the person whom you cheated with. Prostitution has no such thing and is purely a financial deal. So in this case, it is a half-and-half. (or 100% both).
If someone who has a girlfriend, and who is completely drunk or high on drugs, and ended up having sex in that condition with some completely random stranger inside a bar bathroom, and got paid for it....half and half or 100% both is the same.

^
Yeah, I understand that, if she only does compensate dating without cheating, it would be OK telling Nanase

But here we have Nanase putting Asahina in the spot, into very embarrassing and humiliating situation
Nanase does not ask about circumstances, she's just assuming that Yuni will be there, cheering on her.
Nanase is cruel, totally insensitive. She will be surrounded with girls from club, spend night with them, and she asks Asahina to come ALONE and wander around
It's completely selfish and inconsiderate.

There's no chance that Yuni can tell her about lacking money
without humiliating herself more than gaining money even by prostitution

That's why this manga is so interesting. All morally questionable things are challenged and justified

^
Yeah, I understand that, if she only does compensate dating without cheating, it would be OK telling Nanase

But here we have Nanase putting Asahina in the spot, into very embarrassing and humiliating situation
Nanase does not ask about circumstances, she's just assuming that Yuni will be there, cheering on her.
Nanase is cruel, totally insensitive. She will be surrounded with girls from club, spend night with them, and she asks Asahina to come ALONE and wander around
It's completely selfish and inconsiderate.

There's no chance that Yuni can tell her about lacking money
without humiliating herself more than gaining money even by prostitution

That's why this manga is so interesting. All morally questionable things are challenged and justified

Nanases just asked her to come, the normal thing to do would be to talk about it that she can't go because of financial reasons. She's still a minor, there's nothing humiliating about admitting it. Instead she just agrees and basically prostitutes herself to go. And that Fuko uses her economic power to pressure her just shows what a toxic manipulative player she is.

You think all the backstabbing and cheating is ok because she's just 17 and doesnt know how to cope with a girlfriend that is neglecting her? Same goes for Nanase, it's her first relationship and she too is figuring things out. And man at least she's trying and getting better, meanwhile Yuni keeps playing around with Fuuko.

Nanase ain't cruel, just inexperienced and not considerate enough. Yuni on the other hand is total trash for cheating and lying to her. Fuuko is pretty scummy as well, shes emotionaly torturing yuni to get what she wants, exploiting all her insecurities and weaknesses to push her over the edge.

People tend to like Fuuko cause she's beautiful, charming, confidant and wealthy for her age. The way she courts yuni is incredibly toxic though, she really uses all means necessary, willingly hurting and blaming yuni in the process. She's blackmailing and stripping yuni of her self worth. There's nothing healthy about their relationship at all, that people tend to defend her and fuukos actions is really funny to me. I don't see Yuni beeing very happy here, just torn up by guilt.

And don't come with why people who complain about fuuko and yuni are even reading this. Imo cheating is the worst thing you can do in a relationship but I still love this Manga. It's interesting and beautifully drawn, doesn't mean one has to like the scumbags in it.

First, I apologize for my comparison for one of my earlier comments
- how we are not different from characters in this manga (comparing us readers to Asahina, and other translators (actually translations of manga) to Nanase and Fuuko)

It was nothing personal against anyone, especially translator(s) here, just an example in life, and how discussion here inspired me to comment.

English is not my first language and sometimes I'm clumsy to express myself properly as completely self-thought by reading books.
So, forgive my clumsiness if you can or want. I just need for myself and my own consciousness to make it clear to others that my intentions were not malicious.

Second, about the comment above:

Nanases just asked her to come, the normal thing to do would be to talk about it that she can't go because of financial reasons. She's still a minor, there's nothing humiliating about admitting it.

I don't see it's that simple. Imagine Yuni tells her "Hey, Nanase, I don't have a money and I am the minor to travel alone"
Do you think anyone 16-17 years old will admit it to their peer??? (not just to peer, but to gf who is not showing her respect)
It would be a total humiliation.
And Nanase did not ask her, she just assumed and put her in the spot.
I'm still standing it's inconsiderate and wrong approach (maybe word cruel was not completely right to use, but I certainly can say it's pretty arrogant attitude). I also have an impression, with that attitude Nanase would actually start to despise Yuni
Somehow your arguments are not enough to make me change my POV

You think all the backstabbing and cheating is ok because she's just 17 and doesnt know how to cope with a girlfriend that is neglecting her?

Yes, I already said in some of my previous comments, it's better for NANASE to receive a blow and learn her lesson if she wants to grow as character. And take responsibility for her actions. She initiated relationship and proved herself incompetent to keep it healthy, so, call it karma

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Active comments but this manga wasn't updated here :(

Looks like both Yuni and Nanase will become Fuu's harem girls.

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