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She's ten chapters into her new monthly serialization. Seems to be sci-fi? I don't think there are translations.

^Thank you for the info!

very happy her to confirm she is already doing a new manga,hope it gets translated eventually.

You know, it's funny. I wasn't really interested in reading this for all those years that Hachimitsu spent scanlating this series, but I recently stumbled upon comments here and elsewhere that mentioned Hagino talking about her own loneliness and that finally got me to start reading it. And I loved it. It is a bit silly of me to only get into this work after reading up a bit about the author's own struggles with loneliness but I think that also set my expectations to be different from what a lot of other people wanted from this story. Yes, the subtext is there, and the ending can feel a bit too ambiguous for some people (me, internally: it counts as a date!), but ultimately, the story is about two lonely people who find each other and help each other to grow. With the added context of the author's struggles with loneliness, I realized just how much of her own feelings must have been poured into this work.

That being said though, I decided to check up on Hagino Makoto's social media stuff, and it seems like she pretty much nuked everything (unless stuff was linked wrong). Youtube account gone, pixiv gone, her own website gone, twitter still there but everything's been nuked except for a couple of retweets from years ago. Mangaupdates did provide another pen name for her and a different twitter account attached to that, but there's not much to that account publicly. (edit: I'm not sure if that twitter account is even associated with her, there's a discrepancy between the twitter join date and the mangaupdate page's last update date) I hope she's doing alright. I know the posts right above were talking about her new serialization but according to Mangaupdates that seems to have ended already with a volume compilation being released a few weeks ago. Not sure if that's accurate.

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Don't buy the Viz official translation. First of all, they got rid of all honorifics per their localization policy. It is okay in some cases, but I think a series that relies heavily on dialogue and nuance like this one suffers from such a change . And there are various consistency issues that stand out to a casual reader like me. Koyuki refers to Kaede by first name then switches to last name in the span of 4 pages (chapter 18). I guess the translator wanted to make the characters sound like they're on a first name basic (they aren't) but failed to apply the change consistently.

And then this blatant mistake in Koyuki's monologue (chapter 10) that could have been avoided with the slightest bit of attention:

In this scene Koyuki thinks about how she has changed because of Konatsu (fan translation). But apparently the translator didn't bother to remember the main character names, or he thought Konatsu was the one doing the monologue. Either way, this kind of careless mistake is unacceptable for an official translation from a major publisher. The quality control (or lack thereof) speaks volume about how little Viz cares about their products.

Mistakes aside, the translation zigzags between heavy localization at some points and playing it too safe at others. Early on the characters speak like stereotypical American teenagers (Can you imagine Koyuki ever exclaiming: "Oh man, this is gonna suck!"?) with a health dose of "yes ma'am" on the side. This is toned down soon, only to be replaced by dispassionate, by-the-book dialogue. At the fireworks scene (chapter 8) in fan translation, Konatsu asks Koyuki "Why did you call out to me when we first met?". The official version of this line is merely "Why did you speak to me?" which reduces the impact in my opinion.

It's not necessarily the translator's fault that this release quality is subpar. The translator, John Weery, is one of the main guys at Viz who are in charge of several weekly Shounen Jump series. Given his overwhelming workload on a weekly basic, it wouldn't be a surprise if this niche series wasn't high on his priorities (heck, he even made similar mistakes in the flagship mainstream series Demon Slayer). Not to mention that Nettaigyo is hardly similar to your average battle shounen in both tone and style. The real question is why Viz assigned this series to someone who was both overworked and unsuitable for the content, and why they failed to provide any degree of professional quality control/proofreading. Though we all know the answer is because they simply don't care.
/rant

TL/DR: Official translation is horrible with various mistakes, consistency issues, and overall just feels bland. Do yourself a favor and read the fan translation. Buy Japanese version if you want to support the author, but don't reward Viz for a botched job of a translation.

I know the posts right above were talking about her new serialization but according to Mangaupdates that seems to have ended already with a volume compilation being released a few weeks ago. Not sure if that's accurate.

I don't know where that poster got the info from, but I can't find any news about a serialization, let alone one with 10 chapters. Hagino Makoto's latest book that you mentioned is a collection of five short stories with sci-fi theme.

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That's really sad, so many people would miss how great their interactions really are like that :(

But I'm more worried about the author now, I hope she's okay

But I'm more worried about the author now, I hope she's okay

What's happened to the author?

Early on the characters speak like stereotypical American teenagers [...]

I'm glad to see someone here agrees with me, that was really painful to read, to the point that I still haven't read more than the first volume of the official translation.

youdontknowwho posted:

But I'm more worried about the author now, I hope she's okay

What's happened to the author?

Pixiv deleted, youtube channel deleted and no website and her entire tweets removed except for 2 back in 2016 like she abandoned everything

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youdontknowwho posted:

But I'm more worried about the author now, I hope she's okay

What's happened to the author?

Pixiv deleted, youtube channel deleted and no website and her entire tweets removed except for 2 back in 2016 like she abandoned everything

Didn't she at first plan to retire as a mangaka after finishing this series? I seem to recall talk about this here already before its end, so her announcing a new series after it ended was a big positive surprise at the time.

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She planned to retire after finishing her first ever series? And I still can't info on a new series. Do you happen to have a title?

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She planned to retire after finishing her first ever series? And I still can't info on a new series. Do you happen to have a title?

All I've personally seen is the teaser at the end of this series.

Huh, the twitter got wiped very recently, or rather it was made private? It still says there are some 500 tweets on her account. That was where I checked her new series. I unfortunately cannot pull the tweets up anymore, but I think the short stories were published each split into two parts (thus 10 "chapters"). The compiled volume wasn't yet out so I didn't know it was not going to be any more than that.

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She planned to retire after finishing her first ever series? And I still can't info on a new series. Do you happen to have a title?

I'm fairly certain they were talking about the collection of sci-fi stories that you mentioned in your earlier post. I think we were all confused because the end of Nettaigyo promoted her new project, which people took it to mean another series rather than short stories. Going by mangaupdates, it seems like it's just Nettaigyo and the sci-fi compilation. If there was another officially published work then it certainly flew under the radar, but I don't think there is.

Maybe she'll just go back to making Kancolle yuri doujins since another season is airing.

Jesus. The Viz translator couldn't make up his mind on how Konatsu addresses Koyuki. Heck, he literally couldn't keep it consistent across 2 consecutive pages.

And here we go with the misnaming again (same page for reference). You would think that after nearly 8 volumes, the translator would finally remember the two main character names. But apparently it's too hard to remember that the light hair kouhai here is called Konatsu, while Koyuki is the black hair senpai on the other side of the phone. How someone screw up 'translating' names in the first place is beyond me.

Of course the important moment arrives in chapter 28 when Koyuki asks Konatsu to call her by her given name, signaling a change in their relationship. Except that in official translation they are already on first name basic at various points previously. Gotta give it to Viz for their quality translation.

Wow that was a great read.
It's something

A friend told me to read this when I got the time, and boy I really enjoyed it

BTW is there any update on hagino sensei, how is she doing and what she's up to?, I'm kinda worried

Is impossible to get updates, the author most likely moved on from making manga, maybe she will do it with a new account somewhere else but with a different pen name.
Is not like she simply went missing and left things in the air (that would be the worst case), all her accounts were wiped out so it was by choice.

Today I got this shit as feature series... Seriously who did this?

Today I got this shit as feature series... Seriously who did this?

Ooh, nice! Not just one of the best yuri series I've ever read, but one of the best manga in general. Still the 3rd place in my MAL top 10 even now after having lost its 2nd place some time ago.

Well what can I say, there are always good people and luinthoron on this world :3

Jesus. The Viz translator couldn't make up his mind on how Konatsu addresses Koyuki. Heck, he literally couldn't keep it consistent across 2 consecutive pages.

And here we go with the misnaming again (same page for reference). You would think that after nearly 8 volumes, the translator would finally remember the two main character names. But apparently it's too hard to remember that the light hair kouhai here is called Konatsu, while Koyuki is the black hair senpai on the other side of the phone. How someone screw up 'translating' names in the first place is beyond me.

Of course the important moment arrives in chapter 28 when Koyuki asks Konatsu to call her by her given name, signaling a change in their relationship. Except that in official translation they are already on first name basic at various points previously. Gotta give it to Viz for their quality translation.

I know this reply is rather late, but the link is wrong. I believe these are the pages you were referring to.
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch26#52
https://dynasty-scans.com/chapters/nettaigyo_wa_yuki_ni_kogareru_ch26#53

The two specific lines are, "Senpai, I don't mind you being yourself..." and "Still, I wouldn't mind if you were to repeat a year, Senpai."

It's nice to see a series I've read be featured. I may reread it at some point.

Oh it's a featured series, I recommend this for anyone wondering if it is good or not.

Oh it's a featured series, I recommend this for anyone wondering if it is good or not.

I'm kinda put off by the subtext tag as I often find subtext series incredibly frustrating, how is it in this case?