The real sad thing is an autopsy will reveal Airi was strangled, so eventually when they are found Hina is gonna take all the blame.

Granted she’s obviously not blameless, but you know what I mean, the details of how and why probably won’t be relayed back to the families

The ending was fucking painful, I still can't in my mind see it as reciprocated love which just makes it even worse lol, even with the two being "together forever". Yes Airi "loved" Hina, but what is that compared to the love Hina felt for Airi and the things she put herself through for the sake of being with her, when Airi couldn't even accept the fact they had been caught and even thought to blame it all on Hina at one point? Hina's own twisted view on love after the trauma just made matters even worse. Almost like there really was no hope and the whole thing was destined to crash eventually lol.

One thing is I always wondered what the whole beach picture was about since we never actually saw it play out in the manga, just thought it was maybe some kind of symbolism or maybe just a wholesome pic they took once, but I never thought it would mean this. I guess that means that the author had this maybe planned out all along? Would love to see a chapter of the two going more in depth about things.

I guess in the end Airi's selfishness was the real villain all along

Well, when you see Airi in the state that she is towards the end, you'd hardly picture her as a villain. Maybe a more appropriate takeaway is that we should throw away our need to categorize, instead, being understanding that different people have different circumstances. Airi's situation was in a downward spiral, and many people could have stepped in to pull her out, but they never did.

Personally, I see a poignant message to seek help for mental health. Because though we'd like to believe things will get better, sometimes they don't. Sometimes you end up at a point where there is no getting better, and the best thing is to be proactive and nip it at the bud.

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i dont know what to feel AHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

I liked it. It is nice that in the end Ai shows some genuine feelings towards Hina in her flashback and talking about wanting to be with her forever. Hina fighting between the neglect and dependency and tiny fragments of real love poking through from her memories of Ai while choking her to death was really cute too. That last thought of going back to how things were might have been nice to explore, there were some of the hints in the previous few chapters to how it could have worked out abusive fetish stuff and all with them switching, but really this works too. I hope we get a bonus chapter or two with that unfinished Ichika story that got dropped pretty abruptly.
Exposure isn’t a great way to go I’m pretty sure that’s how Neal cassady died

Also I’m pretty sure that is something like the 6th different way they have spelled the title on the end page, 'crouddy'?

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I guess in the end Airi's selfishness was the real villain all along

Well, when you see Airi in the state that she is towards the end, you'd hardly picture her as a villain. Maybe a more appropriate takeaway is that we should throw away our need to categorize, instead, being understanding that different people have different circumstances. Airi's situation was in a downward spiral, and many people could have stepped in to pull her out, but they never did.

Personally, I see a poignant message to seek help for mental health. Because though we'd like to believe things will get better, sometimes they don't. Sometimes you end up at a point where there is no getting better, and the best thing is to be proactive and nip it at the bud.

This is a better, more positive alternative message that I want to believe in.
Wonder if Hinas actually ded or not tho the story assumes she does but if she lives she'll probably be facing some jail time

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Damn... no speech just damn...

Wonder if Hinas actually ded or not tho the story assumes she does but if she lives she'll probably be facing some jail time

They are dead dead they were shown in heaven

Can someone tell me from which chapter is the flashback shown on page 150?

I guess in the end Airi's selfishness was the real villain all along

Well, when you see Airi in the state that she is towards the end, you'd hardly picture her as a villain. Maybe a more appropriate takeaway is that we should throw away our need to categorize, instead, being understanding that different people have different circumstances. Airi's situation was in a downward spiral, and many people could have stepped in to pull her out, but they never did.

Personally, I see a poignant message to seek help for mental health. Because though we'd like to believe things will get better, sometimes they don't. Sometimes you end up at a point where there is no getting better, and the best thing is to be proactive and nip it at the bud.

I think calling something that drives you to suicide could be classified as a villain. It’s not like it’s blaming Airi, it’s acknowledging there is this other force she clearly doesn’t have a handle on that’s caused most if not all the issues in the series. Airi isn’t the villain, this uncontrolled aspect of her is.

I do agree with you on the mental health thing, it’s really sad to see her mind working against her so aggressively in this last chapter, something that professional help definitely could’ve done wonders for instead of her wasting away until Hina broke the camels back.

I find myself more laying blame at her parents specifically, letting her just not go to school for so long was absurd already, but seeing where the spiral ended makes it all the more obvious they should’ve stepped in and attempted to get her some kinda help.

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Wonder if Hinas actually ded or not tho the story assumes she does but if she lives she'll probably be facing some jail time

It is totally plausible that neither of them is dead, but that wouldn’t really suit this as an ending to the story. Given the impetus of time and renewed creative interest, or excessive money, to make a continuation it would be simple for them both to wake up in the hospital variably missing appendages from frostbite and a tracheotomy.

This is, frankly, the exact ending I wanted. Thank you for not pulling the punch, author. Thank you, very much.

Hina rotting in jail would be a great ending too, but really, I can't complain about this one.

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Hina carrying Airi at the end reminded me of scene in Oyasumi Punpun. I was hoping that somehow they’d be able to find a way through their anxieties, dependency issues, depression, etc, even though I knew the chance of that was near to impossible. Really heartbreaking to see them like that at the end, but maybe in another world they could truly and freely love

It would honestly be interesting to see the aftermath and reactions to this from their family and peers. Their parents' lives are probably going to be fucked up. Their kids ran away, one killed the other and then essentially killed herself. That kind of thing has to be the absolute worst thing a parent can go through. And then there's Ichika. She was interested in how fucked up things could be but I don't know if she expected/wanted them to die so I wonder if she'd be upset, think it was super interesting that they did that, or simply not care about them anymore because they can no longer provide her entertainment.

I couldn't see this manga ending any other way. A solid tragedy I'd say. Gunjo had that tinge of happiness, like they would serve their sentence and be together afterwards. Here though, any kind of happy ending would feel disingenuous after everything.

I was expecting a (attempted) double suicide ending in which this was still kind of but not for it to end like this. I enjoyed the fucked up crazy journey that this was and liked that the author decided no on is going to get some fairy tale ending.

I feel like this needs the depressing as fuck tag

Ok that is depressing as fuck. I didn't expect that ending tbh

There are many things that have yet to be solved. Their death is kinda expected but I was hoping for some twist.

I suggest some tag change with this ending

I think calling something that drives you to suicide could be classified as a villain. It’s not like it’s blaming Airi, it’s acknowledging there is this other force she clearly doesn’t have a handle on that’s caused most if not all the issues in the series. Airi isn’t the villain, this uncontrolled aspect of her is.

Well, I'd argue you can't really take a significant part of what makes a person and then say you're not talking about the person as a whole. My point is generally that it's a human tendency to draw lines in the sand and say this is good and this bad, and when we do that we're less understanding towards others. One could say, it's because of Airi's selfishness that this happened, and therefore lump people who suffer similar bad outcomes in the basket we call "selfish". The problem is that the label of villain has a lot of societal baggage, and you can't exactly just isolate facets of people as though they're separate from the person as a whole.

Honestly not what I was expecting based on chapter 25. Or at least, I wasn't expecting the manga to end yet. I think the double suicide was basically forgone, but it seemed like it was going to be a bit longer and we were going to see some more of the other characters.

Also I think Airi was better at being a sadistic abuser than Hina. The long dark hair just really made it.

I feel like this needs the depressing as fuck tag

Violence, guro, depressing as fuck, tragedy, suicide. All viable, but all spoilers. Maybe wait like a week and then add them all to the final chapter? All of them together would obscure what ends up happening in the ending for later readers anyway. What do you think, mycro?

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Fuck... this ending... girls' last tour PTSD

Knew it