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10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

And that's why they don't work as a couple. Adachi is a mess. Too immature for romance. And the more obsessed with Shimamura she becomes, the less likely she is to form important connections with other people. She needs a shrink rather than romance. lol She might be trying to change, but the results are minimal.
And while Shimamura might admire the effort Adachi is supposedly making, admiration isn't love.

As for whether Shimamura is asexual and whatnot, I don't think so. Mangaka and light novel writers don't really explore those kind of themes. I still remember how lots of people though Yuu from Bloom Into You was asexual, and they were dead wrong. Shimamura simply isn't in love with Adachi. Maybe she will later on, but at that point I will lose interest.

last edited at Oct 10, 2020 12:44AM

BeanBeanKingdom
Ms_icon
joined Nov 3, 2018

Maybe Adachi only became shy because she started to notice feelings. But I don’t remember what chapter that was. It was before the bowling, though.

Her behavior around Shimamura begins to change around the time she has a dream where she kisses her, which happens next episode according to the preview.

46-75
joined Jun 25, 2019

And that's why they don't work as a couple. Adachi is a mess. Too immature for romance.

Almost like it's her first experience in romance and she is a teenager, oh wait it is. You can't expect a 15/16 yo girl with no prior experience in love or hell, even in relationship in particular to be mature for that.

And the more obsessed with Shimamura she becomes, the less likely she is to form important connections with other people. She needs a shrink rather than romance. lol She might be trying to change, but the results are minimal.

That's what Shimamura should be stepping in and help her. Shima is not a kid, if she think Adachi should be more open and less obsessed then she should talk with her.

last edited at Oct 10, 2020 5:16AM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Almost like it's her first experience in romance and she is a teenager, oh wait it is. You can't expect a 15/16 yo girl with no prior experience in love or hell, even in relationship in particular to be mature for that.

Except she doesn't act like a normal 15yo kid experiencing her first romance. She acts like someone with some severe social issues. And she should deal with those issues before getting into romance. The way she clings to Shimamura is pretty unhealthy, and it's exactly because she doesn't have anyone else close to her to socialize with.

That's what Shimamura should be stepping in and help her. Shima is not a kid, if she think Adachi should be more open and less obsessed then she should talk with her.

It's not working like that though. Their relationship generally takes the form of Adachi selfishly demanding shit from Shimamura and Shimamura generally giving in to her demands or treating Adachi like little kid. It's an unhealthy relationship no matter how you look at it.

46-75
joined Jun 25, 2019

It's not working like that though. Their relationship generally takes the form of Adachi selfishly demanding shit from Shimamura and Shimamura generally giving in to her demands or treating Adachi like little kid. It's an unhealthy relationship no matter how you look at it.

That sound like Shima is at fault as well.

Except she doesn't act like a normal 15yo kid experiencing her first romance. She acts like someone with some severe social issues.

How do you know how a normal 15yo girl experience her first romance ? What is normal ? Nobody react the same way. Just because you didn't react this way mean the way Adachi react is not normal. And yeah she havesocial issue, she didn't act them, she have them.

The way she clings to Shimamura is pretty unhealthy

And i don't recall anyboy saying the opposite.

Except she doesn't act like a normal 15yo kid experiencing her first romance. She acts like someone with some severe social issues. And she should deal with those issues before getting into romance. The way she clings to Shimamura is pretty unhealthy, and it's exactly because she doesn't have anyone else close to her to socialize with.

It's not working like that though. Their relationship generally takes the form of Adachi selfishly demanding shit from Shimamura and Shimamura generally giving in to her demands or treating Adachi like little kid. It's an unhealthy relationship no matter how you look at it.

Some very apathetic people, like Adachi, are fine with just having one special person in their life. They have their person, job and hobbies, so what she needs to stop revolving around Shimamura and that would suit her personality some more are some hobbies, and maybe she'll meet some people through them or maybe not, you can't really socialize with people you couldn't care less for.

We have all said their relationship isn't healthy, at this point in time. Most young relationships aren't always the healthiest, as they're young, immature and tend to have bad communication, like said young people in them, and yes Adachi is terribly clingy having barely received love and affection from those she wanted it the most and feeling hated by them or well just her mom, Adachi doesn't want that to happen with Shimamura, so she knows she has to change and stop being so demanding and Shimamura knows she can't keep giving-in. Growth in relationships takes time and communication and they have barely just started, so yes they both suck it at right now, but it's unavoidable as those thoughts creep in the back of their minds, they'll have to have a conversation about their relationship or something if they want to keep being together.

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joined Jan 25, 2017

Adachi is Cute, IMO

joined Oct 5, 2016

those were such great chapters!! i loved how pancho was alright with them being girlfriends and just overall being so understanding(maybe suspiciously so...?). also huge shoutout to yashiro for helping shima find her girlfriend, that scene was so sweet

Yeah that whole conversation felt like Pancho was asking for herself, not just out of idle curiosity.

shadesofgreymoon
Swxj4ro
joined Jun 5, 2016

those were such great chapters!! i loved how pancho was alright with them being girlfriends and just overall being so understanding(maybe suspiciously so...?). also huge shoutout to yashiro for helping shima find her girlfriend, that scene was so sweet

Yeah that whole conversation felt like Pancho was asking for herself, not just out of idle curiosity.

Oh for sure, Pancho absolutely has a crush on someone and her reactions and questions seem to indicate that the person in question is another girl....

52722-l
joined Nov 8, 2017

those were such great chapters!! i loved how pancho was alright with them being girlfriends and just overall being so understanding(maybe suspiciously so...?). also huge shoutout to yashiro for helping shima find her girlfriend, that scene was so sweet

Yeah that whole conversation felt like Pancho was asking for herself, not just out of idle curiosity.

Oh for sure, Pancho absolutely has a crush on someone and her reactions and questions seem to indicate that the person in question is another girl....

I thought the same. Maybe it's one of the other two girls in her trio.

joined Aug 29, 2016

And that's why they don't work as a couple. Adachi is a mess. Too immature for romance. And the more obsessed with Shimamura she becomes, the less likely she is to form important connections with other people. She needs a shrink rather than romance. lol She might be trying to change, but the results are minimal.
And while Shimamura might admire the effort Adachi is supposedly making, admiration isn't love.

As for whether Shimamura is asexual and whatnot, I don't think so. Mangaka and light novel writers don't really explore those kind of themes. I still remember how lots of people though Yuu from Bloom Into You was asexual, and they were dead wrong. Shimamura simply isn't in love with Adachi. Maybe she will later on, but at that point I will lose interest.

Woah woah woah. Yuu IS ASEXUAL. She’s on the asexual spectrum. I think she’s demisexual. Maki is the full asexual. You realize that it’s difficult when grey-aces first try to analyze attraction, cause it’ll normally happen at an older age than most?

Where are you getting your resources from? There is no joke using “asexual” and “allosexual”. But I guess we’re not here to talk about attraction since this is just a fictional lesbian yuri story. Just sayin tho.... Yuu is asexual. On the asexual spectrum. I think Shimamura is too. Doesn’t seem to ever had crushes before or even thought about romance. While a lot of people (somehow) figure it out before teenage years.
https://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2019/04/19-1/bloom-into-you-and-exploring-asexuality

last edited at Oct 10, 2020 4:35PM

Rosmontis
Nevrilicious Scans
joined Jun 5, 2015

BlueStallion44 posted:

Yuu IS ASEXUAL.

That's why she has sex?

Ykn1
joined Dec 20, 2018

Doesn’t seem to ever had crushes before or even thought about romance.

If at all, that would make her aromantic, not asexual. Same with Yuu, although she clearly proves otherwise before the manga gets even to the halfway point.

last edited at Oct 10, 2020 5:04PM

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joined Oct 22, 2018

The way I see it, Yuu is demiromantic demisexual and more than likely lesbian (I mean, she certainly sways that way, we just don't know if she does sway any other way too).

last edited at Oct 10, 2020 5:14PM

BeanBeanKingdom
Ms_icon
joined Nov 3, 2018

Haha, yeah, Yuu clearly just lets senpai give her tongue for five minutes straight just to be nice, she's not into it at all.

shadesofgreymoon
Swxj4ro
joined Jun 5, 2016

Volume 9 came out like an hour ago, so I'm now working on that.

I've been obnoxiously nitpicking grammar and spelling on this now since March of last year... when this latest volume is done, what am I gonna do for shits, giggles, and evil cackling?? D:<

BeanBeanKingdom
Ms_icon
joined Nov 3, 2018

You find another yuri LN series to work on?

Doesn’t seem to ever had crushes before or even thought about romance.

Didn't she kinda like Tarumi as a kid or am I remembering that wrong? (I might need to go back and read)

Don't%20forget%20the%20best%20girl
joined Jul 22, 2018

The way I see it, Yuu is demiromantic demisexual and more than likely lesbian (I mean, she certainly sways that way, we just don't know if she does sway any other way too).

I laughed, so many labels... She was just not in love before that's all... She's not demi or I don't know lol
But yeah "The way I see it" that's your opinion

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Woah woah woah. Yuu IS ASEXUAL.

Yuu feels sexual attraction. In fact, she starts feeling sexual attraction for Touko before she falls in love. Back when they were making out during the sport festival Yuu was already getting all hot and bothered when doing lewd stuff with Touko.

If you didn't realize that by her behavior you weren't paying any attention.

last edited at Oct 10, 2020 9:59PM

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

That sound like Shima is at fault as well.

Yeah, you're right.

How do you know how a normal 15yo girl experience her first romance ? What is normal ? Nobody react the same way. Just because you didn't react this way mean the way Adachi react is not normal. And yeah she havesocial issue, she didn't act them, she have them.

Don't get hand up on the word normal, dude. That's not the point. The point is a healthy kid makes friends and acquaintances and such. Adachi is not like that, and while she claims she's fine being a loner, we know she's like that due to family issues (specially her screwed up relationship with her mother). Basically, the point is she has severe social issues and is clearly not ready for romance.

And i don't recall anyboy saying the opposite.

Then you don't have to ague with me, right?

last edited at Oct 10, 2020 10:06PM

46-75
joined Jun 25, 2019

Basically, the point is she has severe social issues and is clearly not ready for romance.

Or, she have someone she trust a lot and that someone can make her socialize and i remember Shimamure have try to do so already.

Then you don't have to ague with me, right?

Well except that wasn't the point we were arguing on.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Some very apathetic people, like Adachi, are fine with just having one special person in their life. They have their person, job and hobbies, so what she needs to stop revolving around Shimamura and that would suit her personality some more are some hobbies, and maybe she'll meet some people through them or maybe not, you can't really socialize with people you couldn't care less for.

Adachi is not really apathetic (in fact, Shimamura is the apathetic one). Adachi has social issues. She has problems socializing with others due to her family issues.

We have all said their relationship isn't healthy, at this point in time. Most young relationships aren't always the healthiest, as they're young, immature and tend to have bad communication, like said young people in them, and yes Adachi is terribly clingly having barely received love and affection from those she wanted it the most and feeling hated by them or well just her mom, Adachi doesn't want that to happen with Shimamura, so she knows she has to change and stop being so demanding and Shimamura knows she can't keep giving-in. Growth in relationships takes time and communication and they have barely just started, so yes they both suck it at right now, but it's unavoidable as those thoughts creep in the back of their minds, they'll have to have a conversation about their relationship or something if they want to keep being together.

The problem is the author isn't doing enough development. We are at volume 9 and their relationship hasn't getting any better. If anything, it got worse with Adachi being more and more selfish and Shimamura just going along with it because, in the absence of love (Shimamura doesn't really love Adachi), she figures the best she can do for Adachi is giving in to her demands.

Am I supposed to root for them when they're so dysfunctional and unhealthy together? I don't think so.

10466e3de
joined Oct 25, 2014

Or, she have someone she trust a lot and that someone can make her socialize

Except that's not happening. For the most part she hasn't gotten any better.

last edited at Oct 10, 2020 10:19PM

46-75
joined Jun 25, 2019

(Shimamura doesn't really love Adachi)

Have we read the same last chapters ?

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